Re: [GTALUG] Windows in Boxes was Re: preliminary adventures with RDP / Remmina / Flatpak

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 7:19 AM o1bigtenor  wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 6:10 PM Michael Hill via talk  wrote:
>>
>> So The Day Job has required that I upgrade to Windows 11 in order to
>> RDP because Windows 10 isn't secure.
>
> You mean to say that there actually 'has' been a version of M$ Win that was 
> secure?

It's easier for me to upgrade my Windows VM than to have the security
discussion. Ideally I would RDP directly from Linux but that would
require a level of awareness that doesn't exist.

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[GTALUG] Windows in Boxes was Re: preliminary adventures with RDP / Remmina / Flatpak

[Michael Hill via talk]

So The Day Job has required that I upgrade to Windows 11 in order to
RDP because Windows 10 isn't secure. I purchased an upgrade license
from my installed Windows 10, secure in the belief that  one of the
strategies in this Tom's Hardware article would allow me to circumvent
the TPM requirement (it didn't).

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/bypass-windows-11-tpm-requirement

I then launched a fresh Boxes install from the Win 11 iso using these
instructions:

https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-win11-in-gnome-boxes.html

It is now possible to choose UEFI instead of BIOS in Boxes, so the
only thing I needed to add to the configuration was the TPM line. When
it got to my license code, however, my upgrade code wouldn't work for
a fresh install.

I started a new Win 10 install to be run parallel with my
currently-working copy. I used the ctrl.blog VM configuration in the
hope that Windows Update would consider my new machine eligible.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 3:19 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
>
> | From: Michael Hill via talk 
> | About seven years ago I needed to start using it full time, so I
> | bought a Windows 10 Pro license and an SSD.
>
> Yeah.  It is a matter of pride/stubbornness that I don't want to buy a
> second Windows license for the machine.  I already involuntarily paid for
> one.
>
> | My understanding is your ThinkPad should store the Windows license key
> | that came with it in a folder in Linux. I've seen mine but I haven't
> | tried using it.
>
> At one point, licenses were stored (partly) in the firmware.

To get a fresh license code from my laptop for the second copy of Win 10, I ran:

cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM

The license code worked. Running Windows Update gave me 6 or 7 updates
to install. After a number of restarts, not all of the updates were
installed successfully and Windows 11 has not appeared as an update
option.

Hopefully there is more to this story but I won't burden the list with it.

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Re: [GTALUG] war story: preliminary adventures with RDP / Remmina / Flatpak

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:47 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
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> Running Window in a VM would be great but I haven't figured out how to do
> that.  Licencing is part of the issue.

I've been doing this in one form or another using Boxes (from the rpm)
for over ten years (I started playing with it in 2011). I used Windows
7 in a box for part time work, installed from a purchased DVD.

About seven years ago I needed to start using it full time, so I
bought a Windows 10 Pro license and an SSD. I downloaded the ISO from
Microsoft (I think you can do this without the license key), and used
Boxes to install it onto the SSD where it is still running.

My understanding is your ThinkPad should store the Windows license key
that came with it in a folder in Linux. I've seen mine but I haven't
tried using it.


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Re: [GTALUG] tiny GNAME change that I don't like

[Michael Hill via talk]

Hi Hugh,

On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 1:09 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
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> (It's hard to talk about this GUI stuff because I (and probably you) don't
> know the names of visual components.)

The shell-introduction page in the online help (press the super key
and type help) looks like it's been updated recently.

> On the top bar of the screen, "Activities" is on the far left.
> Next to it used to be the name of the application that had focus.
> If you clicked on that name, you would get a list of instances of that
> application, plus a couple of other potentially useful choices.
> Am I the only one who cares about the loss of this feature?

I used to use the app menu once in a while.

> The word "Activities" has been replaced with a horizontal oval and a dot.
> I don't know what that change signifies.  I don't even know how to
> interrogate GNOME about this.

The oval-and-dot is now called the activities button.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2902


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Re: [GTALUG] in defence of GNOME 3

[Michael Hill via talk]

Thanks Hugh. I had just sent this response to Lennart, but maybe this
thread is better.

I was first alerted to the initiative when Marcel Gagne posted to say "this
is cool" (he has since backtracked).

A member of the documentation team posted here to say they were coming to
town, and Hugh followed up with more specific location details. I went to
Seneca@York and met volunteers from the States, BC, Germany, the UK, Chile,
and a couple of locals including the maintainer of dbus. After being
involved in the early 2000s downloading and testing GNOME for the Debian
effort, I had turned into a passive user of GNOME 2. Getting involved with
GNOME 3 turned me back into an enthusiastic user. I use assorted GNOME
utilities but mainly Boxes and Firefox.

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Re: [GTALUG] Favorite desktop manager?

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On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 9:19 AM Lennart Sorensen <
lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

They could have started a new desktop project and done whatever they
> wanted.  Making gnome 3 totally nothing like gnome 2 on the other hand
> made no sense.  It was not an upgrade of the previous version.
>

I was first alerted to the initiative when Marcel Gagne posted to say "this
is cool" (he has since backtracked).

A member of the documentation team posted here to say they were coming to
town, and Hugh followed up with more specific location details. I went to
Seneca@York and met volunteers from the States, BC, Germany, the UK, Chile,
and a couple of locals including the maintainer of dbus. After being
involved in the early 2000s downloading and testing GNOME for the Debian
effort, I had turned into a passive user of GNOME 2. Getting involved with
GNOME 3 turned me back into an enthusiastic user. I use assorted GNOME
utilities but mainly Boxes and Firefox.

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Re: [GTALUG] Favorite desktop manager?

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 2:22 PM Lennart Sorensen via talk 
wrote:

Everything gnome 3 has done is wrong.  It's developers have no clue what
> they are doing and sure don't care about user feedback.  They hijacked
> a project name, threw everything away and started over with a terrible
> idea of what a desktop should be, with no regard to users.
>

 Maybe they just decided to stop living in the past. It's not for everyone,
but it works for some people.

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Re: [GTALUG] Favorite desktop manager?

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On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 8:52 AM Giles Orr via talk  wrote:

I loathe GNOME.
>

 Kinda goes without saying here, no?

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Re: [GTALUG] Favorite desktop manager?

[Michael Hill via talk]

GNOME on Wayland and systemd.

My first home OS was IRIX on an Indy. When I started using Linux a couple
of years later, I favoured NeXTstep lookalikes (I have a NeXTstation and a
cube but didn't get a chance to use them in production).

Mike


On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 2:19 PM mwilson--- via talk  wrote:

> I just installed Debian 12 on a new laptop and took Gnome as
> desktop/window manager.
>
> I really insist on something more Xerox PARC style.
>
> I had been using Xfce, and liked it until (following Debian 10 software
> updates) it began to act strangely.  A few months ago it started to kick
> up a huge fuss about difficulties starting the Panel after a restart.
> About 2 weeks back, following an upgrade, the Desktop area stopped
> displaying anything -- no wallpaper, no icons from the Desktop folder --
> just gray.  That prompted this move to Debian 12.
>
> I might go back to Xfce, and assume my troubles just resulted from being 2
> major releases back, but before that, what do other people use and like?
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[GTALUG] LED bulbs was Re: computer hardware testing tools.

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 11:27 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <
talk@gtalug.org> wrote:

(I too suffer a problem that might be power-related.  My home office
> seems to burn out LED lightbulbs more quickly than it should.  I don't
> know where to start on that one.  It might even be heat related rather
> than power-related.)
>

Would love to hear any conclusions to this. All of ours require a ladder to
change, and change is generally required more frequently than the claim on
the box.

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Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM William Park via talk  wrote:
>
> I just received email promo from Lenovo:
>
>  ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) - Black
>  https://s.bluecore.com/Utrkeyg72dZq_0DQf820_NrJxD
>
> Is this a good deal?

It seems like a good deal but I couldn't find any evidence that it was
possible to increase the RAM.

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Re: [GTALUG] wake up really early: FOSDEM is Saturday and Sunday in Belgium

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 5:43 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
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> Live streams: 

Thanks, Hugh. Excellent.

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Re: [GTALUG] scanner under Windows under Linux?

[Michael Hill via talk]

Hi Hugh,

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 10:36 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> Can I easily run Window under Linux in a way that would drive these
> scanners?  I think that the Windows system would need control of the USB
> port to which the scanner is connected.

I just did a quick test using W10 in Boxes on Fedora with my Canon
printer/scanner connected. In Boxes Preferences/Devices & Shares/USB
Devices, I enabled the printer. Then I scanned into IrfanView. Some
weekend I'll give this a try with my 18x12 scanner which has been
unsupported for a number of years.

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Re: [GTALUG] Fedora 36's gnome display of notebook battery status

[Michael Hill via talk]

Hi Hugh,

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 12:19 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> I like the battery status displayed as a percentage.
> This is not the default.  Not a mainstream option

Now it's in the Power settings panel.

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[GTALUG] File chooser [was desktops]

[Michael Hill via talk]

Hi Hugh,

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 11:19 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> I have started to use the file manager (GNOME Files, a Nautilus
> descendent) in the last couple of years.  I've recently incorporated
> its search capability into my workflow and find it more convenient
> than locate(1) or especially find(1).

Have you come across the file chooser behaviour where the search field
takes the focus instead of the filename field?

Example: in Firefox, I want to save a series of article pages that
were uploaded as jpegs, but I want to rename them to page numbers
instead of 40+ random-digit-filenames. If I click on the previous
saved page, its name appears in the filename field with the digit (not
the dot or the jpg extension) highlighted. If I type the next digit in
the sequence, I'd like it to replace what's highlighted so I can press
enter or click Save. Instead the new digit appears in a new search
field. To put the focus where I want, I have to drag the mouse over
the highlighted digit (even switching focus with Tab or ESC would be
better).

I asked about this and was told it's shared GTK code between the file
chooser and file manager, and it's expected behaviour. It is or is
like GTK issue #2638.

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Re: [GTALUG] Default VNC in GNOME?

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 2:56 PM Lennart Sorensen
 wrote:

> I don't feel like ever putting up with an rpm based distribution ever
> again.  Having made both rpm and deb packages over the years, I am not
> surprised that the package quality is much higher on deb based systems.

I started with Debian because it came up first in an Alta Vista
search. I installed it on a work PC. I had an SGI Indy at home. Aside
from the Indy I ran Debian exclusively for eight years.

Alex DeVries (spoke at TLUG) worked on the SGI port and was a Red Hat
user. He helped me get Linux running on the Indy, my first look at Red
Hat. It wasn't as elegant as Debian (okay it was ugly) but a lot of
things still didn't work yet..

Florian Lohoff and Guido Guenther came from Germany for DebConf in
2002. I worked near the airport at the time. When I drove them to
catch their flight home they stopped by the office. I had a Debian
hard drive for the Indy by then but it was a bit of a chore to get it
to boot. Guido automated it for me.

After six years as the IT guy at an engineering firm I persuaded them
to let me switch to Linux servers (from Netware and Exchange). They
wanted an enterprise product so it was SLES, with RPMs and KDE. I
tolerated it but ran Debian everywhere else, with GNOME or X-less. Two
years later the company was acquired and Linux was expunged, replaced
by a worldwide Microsoft agreement.

When Behdad Esfahbod brought Jeff Waugh to speak at U of T, I
installed Ubuntu on my first work laptop where it ran for 5-6 years.

Marcel Gagne posted about the future GNOME Shell as something cool. I
installed it and played with it for a few minutes.

Jim Campbell posted on this list in 2011 that the GNOME docs team
would be in town for a hackfest. They were writing docs for GNOME 3.0
and I went to help out. They had openSUSE GNOME Live CDs (more recent
GNOME packages than what I was able to install), so I switched. Two
years later I was at Red Hat in Brno for another hackfest and took the
opportunity to install Fedora, which I'm still running. I have an ASUS
Transformer where I run Debian.

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Re: [GTALUG] Default VNC in GNOME?

[Michael Hill via talk]

Hi Lennart,

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 1:55 PM Lennart Sorensen
 wrote:

> I don't use gnome (since they totally ruined it), and I pretty much
> never use remote desktop stuff (I just forward X over ssh if I need to
> run something remotely).

Just kidding, I knew all that. I thought you might know some arcane
reason Debian still ships vino.

If you're ever inclined to investigate whether GNOME is still
"ruined," Fedora provides a pretty pure experience.

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Re: [GTALUG] Default VNC in GNOME?

[Michael Hill via talk]

Debian bookworm/sid has vino *and* gnome-remote-desktop, just to be on
the safe side. (Both are optional.) Lennart can possibly comment on
how this bears on his workflow.
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Re: [GTALUG] Default VNC in GNOME?

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM William Muriithi via talk
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> That would be vino I believe.

Sorry, I should have specified I run Fedora . Vino has been deprecated.

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Re: [GTALUG] Default VNC in GNOME?

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:52 AM William Park via talk  wrote:

> What's the default VNC server/client in GNOME?

The client, Vinagre, has been replaced by Connections.

The server is provided by GNOME Remote Desktop using LibVNCServer:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop

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Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:10 AM Evan Leibovitch via talk
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> KDE is big and bloated and sometimes overkill, but it never insults its users.

I prefer the elegant design and centralized vision of the GNOME
desktop, but the whininess of the GNOME hatred here never gets old.

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Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 11:24 AM Alex Volkov via talk  wrote:

> Reading the replies to your post I feel disappointed that we have so many 
> reactionaries in our midst.

+1

> I support this idea.

+1

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Re: [GTALUG] USB-C port was Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:38 PM Giles Orr via talk  wrote:

> One possible solution (which you may not need anymore, but I thought I'd 
> throw it out there) is to run
> xrandr or arandr to switch off the monitor.  This would bring all the windows 
> back onto the primary
> monitor.  You could then try using [xa]randr to turn the monitor back on, 
> which might "refresh" the
> monitor.

Thanks, Giles. I think I've come to an understanding with the BIOS settings.

(ThinkPad) Thunderbolt Security Level can be:

No Security
User Authorization
Secure Connect
Display Port [sic] and USB

If I choose the first two in the BIOS, I can modify the settings in
the dedicated Thunderbolt settings panel in Fedora. I can even choose
to disable Thunderbolt support in the panel by setting it to
DisplayPort and USB. I can't remember how Secure Connect behaved (or
why it was unsuitable), but I'll try it again when I get a chance.

If I choose the last setting in the BIOS, the Settings panel says
"Thunderbolt support has been disabled in the BIOS." As much as I'd
like to have options, this seems to be the only setting that permits
the external monitor to be recognized when I jiggle the mouse. Even
the same setting in Fedora, although it starts with good intentions,
forgets after a while and I need to resort to unplugging/replugging.

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Re: [GTALUG] USB-C port was Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

Solution (for now): set BIOS Thunderbolt Security setting to DisplayPort.

Carry on.
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Re: [GTALUG] USB-C port was Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

Coincidental and potentially related blog post:

https://christian.kellner.me/2018/10/24/thunderbolt-port-guide-t480s-force-power/
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[GTALUG] USB-C port was Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:02 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> According to
> 
> the monitor has
>
> DisplayPort, audio connectors (supports 5.1 channel audio
> connection), two HDMI 1.3 and two DVI-D connectors with
> High-Bandwidth Digital Copy Protection (HDCP).
>
> So the right way of connecting to a T450 should be DisplayPort to
> DisplayPort.

I've switched out the ThinkPad for a T480, which has *no* DisplayPort
connector but brings back HDMI (lower resolution with the Dell
monitor) and forces me to spend seventy bucks on a new cable (USB-C to
DisplayPort).

After the screen blanks, the monitor refuses to wake up. Sometimes,
corrupt images (very gradually) appear in bands. When the monitor is
asleep, Fedora thinks it's still there and leaves open windows on it,
completely inaccessible. Powering it off and on does nothing, and it
needs to be unplugged/reconnected.

Am I missing a BIOS setting? (There were many that needed to be set
initially.) Is this a driver problem or should I file a bug? Happens
on Xorg and Wayland.

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[GTALUG] Replacement keys (was Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint)

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk
 wrote:

> I've had a number of folks express interest after seeing me use mine.
> So I'm just going to drop the links here for general reference.
>
> Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint

Mine has been indispensable for five years. Last week, sadly, the X
key was dislodged and fell out of my backpack somewhere. Can anyone
recommend a supplier for replacement keys? I took a look on eBay and
the selection seemed pretty spotty.

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Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:52 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> This has low reliability, so take it with a large grain of salt, but
> the only time I met Lennart Poettering (before systemd) he did seem
> arrogant.

Depends on the context, I guess. I've been to a number of Lennart's
talks, but I've also seen him at social events surrounding the
conferences (Devconf, FOSDEM, Desktop Summit, this year's GUADEC).
He's the personal friend of some of the GNOME docs people I know, and
they know him as a regular guy.

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Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Dhaval Giani via talk  wrote:

> This list is an example of attacks on systemd. While Lennart doesn't read
> this list personally, I do know of the impact systemd criticism has had on
> him. He has shared recordings of death threats because of systemd. I think,
> we can all agree that, systemd, or pulseaudio did not make linux worse, at
> least enough to justify death threats.

Thanks, Dhaval. Good reading.

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Re: [GTALUG] desktop comfort [was Re: Upgraded to Beaver and Command Line Says 'command not found']

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:54 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> - I wish more tabletty gestures worked on touchscreens.  Does any
>   normal Linux desktop do better?  I actually have a few devices with
>   Fedora that have detachable keyboards; Fedora feels somewhat crippled
>   without a keyboard.

I have an ASUS T100TA that I use in lieu of a laptop on occasion
because of its size. I never use the touchscreen (I tried and failed
with Linux on a Nexus 7). I use the detachable keyboard as a stand,
preferring my ThinkPad compact bluetooth keyboard (my eyes need the
extra space between keyboard and screen).

I run Fedora Rawhide on my work laptop to be able to use a relatively
recent version of GNOME. Before Ubuntu was introduced, I would run
Debian Unstable with bits of Experimental for the same reason. For a
couple of years I ran KDE (the default) on SLES at work before new
ownership outlawed Linux in my server room. I began seven years as an
Ubuntu user excited about what was happening on the desktop, and
finished it not caring a bit. When GNOME 3.0 came out, I got excited
all over again. I switched to openSUSE, then Fedora.

My work is done in FreeCAD and a number of CAD programs that run on
Win7 in GNOME Boxes. I had to switch to the X session for a couple of
weeks this year because of a Wayland issue recognizing right-click
events in FreeCAD. I have Fedora Atomic Workstation parallel-installed
("inside" my existing workstation) where I run git and emacs -nw in
buildah in GNOME Terminal for documentation editing.

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Re: [GTALUG] Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Lennart Sorensen
 wrote:

> Passive displayport to hdmi or DVI adapters are only single link, and
> to use DVI to get 2560x1600@60Hz requires DVI dual link.

> As you have found out, native displayport on the other hand works.

> Another option with be an active displayport to dual link DVI adapter.

> Also the HDMI is single link on the monitor so no adapter could ever make
> the monitor do more than 1920x1200@60Hz using HDMI input on the monitor.
> The HDMI input on that monitor only existed to allow connecting a bluray
> player or other similar device at 1920x1080.  It was not for computer use.

Good to know. If I add a ThinkPad docking station, will anything stop
me from running *two* monitors at resolutions higher than 1920x1200?

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Re: [GTALUG] Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:02 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> A DP cable should be cheap and easy to acquire.

Acquired: $14.99 from Canada Computers and it does the trick.

> BONUS
>
> If you want to be neo-retro, you can buy an audio amplifier with tubes AND
> bluetooth, triggering free shipping, from primecables.
>
> 

That looks awesome.

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Re: [GTALUG] Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:02 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:

> According to
> 
> the monitor has
>
> DisplayPort, audio connectors (supports 5.1 channel audio
> connection), two HDMI 1.3 and two DVI-D connectors with
> High-Bandwidth Digital Copy Protection (HDCP).
>
> So the right way of connecting to a T450 should be DisplayPort to
> DisplayPort.

Thanks, Hugh. Excellent.

So I shouldn't be surprised that I get 3840x2160@30Hz on the newer
monitor at work


1 DisplayPort
1 Mini DisplayPort
1 HDMI (MHL)
1 DisplayPort out (MST)

with the HDMI cable and mini DisplayPort adapter.

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Re: [GTALUG] Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Erich Welz  wrote:

Most DVI cables (single link) max out at 1920x1200.
>
> Older versions of the HDMI spec didn't support above 1920x1200, so that
> could also be suspect.
>
> My guess is the only way to get 2560x1600 out of that monitor is via
> DisplayPort or
>

Thanks, Erich. The sticker taped to the cable says "50.7A2A9.011-R" so
apparently I already have the dual-link DVI cable.

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Re: [GTALUG] Keeping it alive: Nexus 7 (2012) running lineageOS 14.1

[Michael Hill via talk]

Thanks Scott, good to know.

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Re: [GTALUG] Intel Baytrail systems may become stable under Linux!

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk 
 wrote:


Popped the latest multi-arch Debian ISO (8.7.0) into my trusty ZALMAN 
external drive with virtual CD/DVD function.


My experience is similar on my ASUS T100TA, but I started with the 
Debian multi-arch 8.6.0 on a USB stick and keep it upgraded to 
stretch/sid.


For kernels I've been following the (infrequent) Ubuntu packages from 
the T100TA G+ community. I have bootable 4.7 and 4.8 kernels installed, 
but 4.4.14 has been the best so far...


- I have my music library installed and the headphone jack functions.

- no camera yet but I don't miss it.

- a great size for writing docs at a hackfest, paired with my 
laptop-size ThinkPad Bluetooth keyboard. (I did this at Red Hat in the 
summer.) It will boot GNOME continuous in a VM.


Issues I haven't taken the time to resolve:

- no tap support (screen or touchpad--the touchpad requires an actual 
click) after 4.4, kind of essential when I'm using it without the extra 
keyboard.


- screen rotation was non-functional but sprung to life after a recent 
upgrade (kernel firmware, maybe?). It defaults to upside-down in 
landscape mode, so I had to un-rotate it (at the command line) and lock 
it.


Mike



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Re: [GTALUG] Intel Baytrail systems may become stable under Linux!

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 10:56 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk 
 wrote:


A few days ago, entry 724 (!) in that bug report noted the submission 
of a kernel patch that strongly reduces the problem.


Good to hear. Thanks for the update, Hugh.

Mike



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Re: [GTALUG] thinkpad repair; or, new laptop

[Michael Hill via talk]

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Matt Price via talk  wrote:

My THinkpad T440s is having some serious issues with suspend -- at times it
> will enter a hard freeze while suspended, requiring a hard reset with the
> manual reset button; at times it won't suspend at all, but enter a
> similarly unresponsive, blank-screen state from which it cannot be
> accessesd, requiring a soft reset with the power button; and at other times
> it will suspend just fine.
>

I'm running Fedora Rawhide on my aging ThinkPad SL410. For a few days last
week I had the same experience with suspend. After a kernel upgrade (from
one 4.8.0 release candidate to another), suspend started working again.

Mike
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