Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Jim Ruxton via talk]

This is what I should have done with the last program I installed which 
was about 13 or 14 GB. Thanks for pointing this out. I may even 
uninstall it and reinstall on D drive. For some reason it never occurred 
to me that I could I could change the path during install to the other 
drive.


Jim

On 2021-03-28 2:38 p.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:

| From: Jim Ruxton via talk 
|
| Thanks guys for the tips on Gparted. I had  already gone ahead with using
| links. I'm not much of a Windows person so get nervous moving stuff around in
| there. I discovered that I couldn't move the folder (Program Files) to a drive
| other than the one that Windows was on. Super frustrating. Anyway I freed up
| enough space moving a couple other folders.  I just wasn't sure if Gparted
| could join 2 different physical drives to make it look like 1. Unfortunate
| there is a couple of programs that I need to use Windows for. Thanks again for
| all the help.

The first answer in this Stack Exchange item looks useful.



In particular, when you install most applications, you can specify
where they should be loaded.

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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk]

| From: Jim Ruxton via talk 
| 
| Thanks guys for the tips on Gparted. I had  already gone ahead with using
| links. I'm not much of a Windows person so get nervous moving stuff around in
| there. I discovered that I couldn't move the folder (Program Files) to a drive
| other than the one that Windows was on. Super frustrating. Anyway I freed up
| enough space moving a couple other folders.  I just wasn't sure if Gparted
| could join 2 different physical drives to make it look like 1. Unfortunate
| there is a couple of programs that I need to use Windows for. Thanks again for
| all the help.

The first answer in this Stack Exchange item looks useful.



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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Russell Reiter via talk]

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 1:25 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, 
wrote:

> | From: Russell Reiter via talk 
>
> | For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted.
>
> If you look at the image he sent, you will see that it is a pair of
> screenshots of GParted.  So he does use it.  Of course he may not know
> all of its capabilities.
>

I didnt actually look at the image for my response. In fact I hadn't read
the original post. I'd responded endorsing gparted for his next steps in
shuffling stuff around, after he'd solved his problem, at least for now.

I guess it was the way the OP posed his next step as an assumed course of
action which led me to believe he was only aware of the tool, rather than
having some hands on experience with it.


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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Jim Ruxton via talk]

Thanks guys for the tips on Gparted. I had  already gone ahead with 
using links. I'm not much of a Windows person so get nervous moving 
stuff around in there. I discovered that I couldn't move the folder 
(Program Files) to a drive other than the one that Windows was on. Super 
frustrating. Anyway I freed up enough space moving a couple other 
folders.  I just wasn't sure if Gparted could join 2 different physical 
drives to make it look like 1. Unfortunate there is a couple of programs 
that I need to use Windows for. Thanks again for all the help.


Jim

On 2021-03-28 12:51 p.m., Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 12:04 PM William Park via talk 
mailto:talk@gtalug.org>> wrote:


On 3/28/21 7:30 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:

For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted.
You can resize and reformat disk volumes with comparative ease.
I've used it many times without losing data and without having to
resort to my backups.


Gparted gives me problems when formatting USB drives that need to
boot. If you partition a USB drive with "fdisk" and with "gparted"
and compare the MBR, you will see gparted puts lots of data into
MBR whereas fdisk modifies just the partition table.


I don't think I've ever actually partitioned a usb drive. I've only 
used dd to create a boot usb via a ready made distribution iso.


I have used gparted to revert GPT to MBR when I was dealing with UEFI 
issues, but that was more about me crawling up the learning curve than 
anything else.


I believe most, at least the most mainstream linux distros, are 
installed using GPT as it can handle drives larger than 2tb.



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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

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| From: Russell Reiter via talk 

| For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted.

If you look at the image he sent, you will see that it is a pair of
screenshots of GParted.  So he does use it.  Of course he may not know
all of its capabilities.
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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Russell Reiter via talk]

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 12:04 PM William Park via talk 
wrote:

> On 3/28/21 7:30 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
>
> For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted. You can
> resize and reformat disk volumes with comparative ease. I've used it many
> times without losing data and without having to resort to my backups.
>
>
> Gparted gives me problems when formatting USB drives that need to boot.
> If you partition a USB drive with "fdisk" and with "gparted" and compare
> the MBR, you will see gparted puts lots of data into MBR whereas fdisk
> modifies just the partition table.
>

I don't think I've ever actually partitioned a usb drive. I've only used dd
to create a boot usb via a ready made distribution iso.

I have used gparted to revert GPT to MBR when I was dealing with UEFI
issues, but that was more about me crawling up the learning curve than
anything else.

I believe most, at least the most mainstream linux distros, are installed
using GPT as it can handle drives larger than 2tb.


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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

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On 3/28/21 7:30 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted. You 
can resize and reformat disk volumes with comparative ease. I've used 
it many times without losing data and without having to resort to my 
backups.


Gparted gives me problems when formatting USB drives that need to boot.  
If you partition a USB drive with "fdisk" and with "gparted" and compare 
the MBR, you will see gparted puts lots of data into MBR whereas fdisk 
modifies just the partition table.
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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Lennart Sorensen via talk]

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 07:30:09AM -0400, Russell Reiter wrote:
> For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted. You can
> resize and reformat disk volumes with comparative ease. I've used it many
> times without losing data and without having to resort to my backups.
> 
> https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted/amp/
> 
> I don't use MS windows so I can't speak to keeping that os functionally
> intact when moving stuff around.
> 
> I have moved linux stuff from disk to disk on my desktop to grow storage
> and add distributions over the years with very few puzzlements.
> 
> I have resized ntfs and fat data partitions with no real issues but I
> usually practiced this stuff beforehand on a machine other than my daily
> driver.

I think the few times I have resized ntfs with gparted it has usually
worked, although back in the vista days it did break booting but it
seems that was fixed long ago.

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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Russell Reiter via talk]

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 12:38 AM Jim Ruxton via talk,  wrote:

> I guess eventually I will have to do that Len. Just doing the bandaid
> solution for now so I don't have to take my laptop apart.
> Jim
>

For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted. You can
resize and reformat disk volumes with comparative ease. I've used it many
times without losing data and without having to resort to my backups.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted/amp/

I don't use MS windows so I can't speak to keeping that os functionally
intact when moving stuff around.

I have moved linux stuff from disk to disk on my desktop to grow storage
and add distributions over the years with very few puzzlements.

I have resized ntfs and fat data partitions with no real issues but I
usually practiced this stuff beforehand on a machine other than my daily
driver.


> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 12:19 AM Lennart Sorensen <
> lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 03:04:11PM -0400, Jim Ruxton via talk wrote:
>> > I have a partitioning question I am hoping someone can help with. I
>> have 2
>> > hard drives in my laptop , a SSD and a standard hard drive. I dual boot
>> > Windows and Ubuntu. Here is an image of my partitions from gparted. The
>> top
>> > is my SSD and the bottom is my other drive.
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
>> <
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
>> >
>> > .
>> >
>> >  My Linux system except for Home (which has it's own partition on the
>> other
>> > drive) is on the SSD as well as Windows.  I'm running out of room on the
>> > Windows partition on the SSD. I have other partitions on the other drive
>> > that has lots of space. Is there a way I can allocate some of that to
>> > Windows? For example as you can see in the image I have an ntfs data
>> > partition of 100 Gigs that is almost empty. Any way to take some of
>> that and
>> > share it with the Windows SSD partition? Otherwise what would people
>> > recommend to give Windows more space based on what I have available. I
>> > should also probably move some of my Linux out of the SSD but not sure
>> what?
>> > I assume if I do move stuff I would need to do it from gparted running
>> on a
>> > USB stick? Thanks for your suggestions.
>>
>> I guess getting a larger NVMe drive isn't an option?
>>
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>>
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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Jim Ruxton via talk]

I guess eventually I will have to do that Len. Just doing the bandaid
solution for now so I don't have to take my laptop apart.
Jim

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 12:19 AM Lennart Sorensen <
lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 03:04:11PM -0400, Jim Ruxton via talk wrote:
> > I have a partitioning question I am hoping someone can help with. I have
> 2
> > hard drives in my laptop , a SSD and a standard hard drive. I dual boot
> > Windows and Ubuntu. Here is an image of my partitions from gparted. The
> top
> > is my SSD and the bottom is my other drive.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
> <
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > .
> >
> >  My Linux system except for Home (which has it's own partition on the
> other
> > drive) is on the SSD as well as Windows.  I'm running out of room on the
> > Windows partition on the SSD. I have other partitions on the other drive
> > that has lots of space. Is there a way I can allocate some of that to
> > Windows? For example as you can see in the image I have an ntfs data
> > partition of 100 Gigs that is almost empty. Any way to take some of that
> and
> > share it with the Windows SSD partition? Otherwise what would people
> > recommend to give Windows more space based on what I have available. I
> > should also probably move some of my Linux out of the SSD but not sure
> what?
> > I assume if I do move stuff I would need to do it from gparted running
> on a
> > USB stick? Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> I guess getting a larger NVMe drive isn't an option?
>
> --
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>
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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Lennart Sorensen via talk]

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 03:04:11PM -0400, Jim Ruxton via talk wrote:
> I have a partitioning question I am hoping someone can help with. I have 2
> hard drives in my laptop , a SSD and a standard hard drive. I dual boot
> Windows and Ubuntu. Here is an image of my partitions from gparted. The top
> is my SSD and the bottom is my other drive. 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> .
> 
>  My Linux system except for Home (which has it's own partition on the other
> drive) is on the SSD as well as Windows.  I'm running out of room on the
> Windows partition on the SSD. I have other partitions on the other drive
> that has lots of space. Is there a way I can allocate some of that to
> Windows? For example as you can see in the image I have an ntfs data
> partition of 100 Gigs that is almost empty. Any way to take some of that and
> share it with the Windows SSD partition? Otherwise what would people
> recommend to give Windows more space based on what I have available. I
> should also probably move some of my Linux out of the SSD but not sure what?
> I assume if I do move stuff I would need to do it from gparted running on a
> USB stick? Thanks for your suggestions.

I guess getting a larger NVMe drive isn't an option?

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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Jim Ruxton via talk]

Thanks a lot . This worked perfectly. I've never used links in Windows
before. They call them Junctions for folders. I just copied over my
Documents and Download Directories to my D: drive and put Junctions on the
C drive to these after removing them from that drive. Thanks a lot for the
pointer.
Cheers,
Jim

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:32 PM o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 2:04 PM Jim Ruxton via talk 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have a partitioning question I am hoping someone can help with. I have
> > 2 hard drives in my laptop , a SSD and a standard hard drive. I dual
> > boot Windows and Ubuntu. Here is an image of my partitions from gparted.
> > The top is my SSD and the bottom is my other drive.
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
> > <
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > .
> >
> >   My Linux system except for Home (which has it's own partition on the
> > other drive) is on the SSD as well as Windows.  I'm running out of room
> > on the Windows partition on the SSD. I have other partitions on the
> > other drive that has lots of space. Is there a way I can allocate some
> > of that to Windows? For example as you can see in the image I have an
> > ntfs data partition of 100 Gigs that is almost empty. Any way to take
> > some of that and share it with the Windows SSD partition? Otherwise what
> > would people recommend to give Windows more space based on what I have
> > available. I should also probably move some of my Linux out of the SSD
> > but not sure what? I assume if I do move stuff I would need to do it
> > from gparted running on a USB stick? Thanks for your suggestions.
> >
> Dunno if this is a 'good' idea but I've used this moving info from shorter
> term
> storage to longer term storage.
>
> Setup a similar directory on the drive that has space (dunno if M$ will
> let you
> do this) and then use scp to move all the directories and files. Next you
> setup
> a soft link from almost full to the empty (sort of) disk.
>
> I've been doing this from connecting files/directories from the single
> hard drive
> that is the operating system and the Raid-10 array which is where I want
> most everything that I don't want to lose.
>
> This might just be a 'hacky' solution and I really have no idea if it will
> work
> on M$ but it does get the job done.
>
> Regards
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Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

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On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 2:04 PM Jim Ruxton via talk  wrote:
>
> I have a partitioning question I am hoping someone can help with. I have
> 2 hard drives in my laptop , a SSD and a standard hard drive. I dual
> boot Windows and Ubuntu. Here is an image of my partitions from gparted.
> The top is my SSD and the bottom is my other drive.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing
> 
> .
>
>   My Linux system except for Home (which has it's own partition on the
> other drive) is on the SSD as well as Windows.  I'm running out of room
> on the Windows partition on the SSD. I have other partitions on the
> other drive that has lots of space. Is there a way I can allocate some
> of that to Windows? For example as you can see in the image I have an
> ntfs data partition of 100 Gigs that is almost empty. Any way to take
> some of that and share it with the Windows SSD partition? Otherwise what
> would people recommend to give Windows more space based on what I have
> available. I should also probably move some of my Linux out of the SSD
> but not sure what? I assume if I do move stuff I would need to do it
> from gparted running on a USB stick? Thanks for your suggestions.
>
Dunno if this is a 'good' idea but I've used this moving info from shorter term
storage to longer term storage.

Setup a similar directory on the drive that has space (dunno if M$ will let you
do this) and then use scp to move all the directories and files. Next you setup
a soft link from almost full to the empty (sort of) disk.

I've been doing this from connecting files/directories from the single
hard drive
that is the operating system and the Raid-10 array which is where I want
most everything that I don't want to lose.

This might just be a 'hacky' solution and I really have no idea if it will work
on M$ but it does get the job done.

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[GTALUG] Partitioning Question

[Jim Ruxton via talk]

I have a partitioning question I am hoping someone can help with. I have 
2 hard drives in my laptop , a SSD and a standard hard drive. I dual 
boot Windows and Ubuntu. Here is an image of my partitions from gparted. 
The top is my SSD and the bottom is my other drive. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7Rcn1_W95Z1PlV122IhPdR1VXJFxkAJ/view?usp=sharing 
 
.


 My Linux system except for Home (which has it's own partition on the 
other drive) is on the SSD as well as Windows.  I'm running out of room 
on the Windows partition on the SSD. I have other partitions on the 
other drive that has lots of space. Is there a way I can allocate some 
of that to Windows? For example as you can see in the image I have an 
ntfs data partition of 100 Gigs that is almost empty. Any way to take 
some of that and share it with the Windows SSD partition? Otherwise what 
would people recommend to give Windows more space based on what I have 
available. I should also probably move some of my Linux out of the SSD 
but not sure what? I assume if I do move stuff I would need to do it 
from gparted running on a USB stick? Thanks for your suggestions.


Cheers,

Jim

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