Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

[Lennart Sorensen via talk]

On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 09:23:48PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote:
> I'm thinking about taking public transit to FSOSS2016.  I can get to
> Go Union Station easy.  From there, Trip planner says
> - Union -> University Subway line -> Downsview -> York U
> - Union -> Yonge Subway line -> Finch -> York U
> 
> For those living (and taking TTC) in Toronto, which route is least
> crowded during morning/afternoon rush hours?  

Well during rush hour, the viva orange runs from downsview to york
univerisity, and TTC fare (pass or transfer) is valid for that trip.
Not sure how the return trip would work unless you have a TTC pass since
they wouldn't sell you a TTC ticket and transfer of course (the viva
bus doesn't sell fares at all after all).  I think the TTC 196 rocket
runs a similar connection and seems to be more frequent.  Probably
simpler.

I can't imagine trying to go over from the yonge side would make any
sense unless the 60 express to york makes better progress that I could
imagine doing on steeles during rush hour.

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Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

[James Knott via talk]

On 10/03/2016 01:44 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> 6  This year my starting point is different (St. George station) so
>I'll probably go through Downsview

One point that seems to be missing is where the OP is coming from.  If
Mississauga, there are GO buses from Square One right to York.  No idea
of the schedule though.

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Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

[Stephen via talk]

On 2016-10-02 09:23 PM, William Park via talk wrote:

I'm thinking about taking public transit to FSOSS2016.  I can get to
Go Union Station easy.  From there, Trip planner says
- Union -> University Subway line -> Downsview -> York U
- Union -> Yonge Subway line -> Finch -> York U

For those living (and taking TTC) in Toronto, which route is least
crowded during morning/afternoon rush hours?


This is a no brainer.

Take the subway to Downsview. The Yonge line is busier.

Catch the York University Rocket bus, 196, to the University. It only 
makes two stops, and travels along bus right of ways. Very fast.


Just do not take the Rocket bus that goes east to Sheppard. I think it 
is the 196B, but not sure.


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Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

[Evan Leibovitch via talk]

On 3 October 2016 at 01:44, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk 
wrote:


> 1. Evan is an expert since he has lived at York.
>Is it really faster from Finch than Downsview?
>

​It all depends on where you're coming from.

>From east of Yonge and north of St. Clair it's probably easier to;

- Take the Sheppard subway to Sheppard/Yonge and take the 196B from there.

or

- Take the Finch 199B from Finch Station, Scarborough Centre or major
intersections in between

If you're coming from downtown or are close to the Bloor line take the 196
from Downsview.

>From west of Jane, take the 195 Jane Rocket from Jane Station or major
intersections.

(And of course there are GO buses direct to York from Square One, Richmond
Hill, Oasville, Oshawa etc.)

Having said that, this is 2016. Download a bloody Android app to tell you
the fastest way to York from wherever you are. Google Maps does a workable
job but there are some specialized apps that track the TTC bus GPS signals
(I prefer the "Transit" app that also works in other cities).

2. The question was about crowding, not speed.
>

​Into campus​, buses will probably be crowded but there are lots of them.
Rush frequencies on the 196 from Downsview will be less than every five
minutes and they use the double-length buses on that route.



> 4. There might be a difference between going to York and returning.
>The bus queues for the return trip have seemed horrible.
>There is apparently a trick: catch them inbound, a stop before
>everyone else.  I haven't tried this
>

​This will guarantee you a seat but will probably make your journey slower.
Works with the 196 (which stops in front of Seneca in the afternoon before
going to the main loop)​ and the 106 (non express bus to downsview --
slower but less crowded).



> 5. On Scott's advice, I've taken the rocket from the Sheppard station.
>Perhaps Finch would have been better, perhaps not.
>

​Of the two, the 199B from Finch will probably be faster from Yonge Street​
since it has no significant north-south travel. If starting from Yonge and
Sheppard take the bus direct from there.


> 6  This year my starting point is different (St. George station) so
>I'll probably go through Downsview
>

​Absolutely​.

​Note: This will be the last year this info will be relevant (except for
the advice to use an app.) This time next year the subway will run directly
to York.​

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Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

[D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk]

| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk 

| On 2 Oct 2016, 22:05, at 22:05, "Chris F.A. Johnson via talk" 
 wrote:
| >On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, William Park via talk wrote:
| >
| >> I'm thinking about taking public transit to FSOSS2016.  I can get to
| >> Go Union Station easy.  From there, Trip planner says
| >>- Union -> University Subway line -> Downsview -> York U
| >>- Union -> Yonge Subway line -> Finch -> York U
| >>
| >> For those living (and taking TTC) in Toronto, which route is least
| >> crowded during morning/afternoon rush hours?
| >
| >Take the University subway. The Finch bus is a long ride.

| Not necessarily, especially if you're coming from the east end. There is 
| now the 199B Finch Rocket that goes express from Scarborough Centre, via 
| Finch Station, right into to York. West of Dufferin it uses reserved bus 
| lanes.

1. Evan is an expert since he has lived at York.
   Is it really faster from Finch than Downsview?

2. The question was about crowding, not speed.

3. I would recommend going through Downsview based on little
   information

4. There might be a difference between going to York and returning.
   The bus queues for the return trip have seemed horrible.
   There is apparently a trick: catch them inbound, a stop before
   everyone else.  I haven't tried this

5. On Scott's advice, I've taken the rocket from the Sheppard station.
   Perhaps Finch would have been better, perhaps not.

6  This year my starting point is different (St. George station) so
   I'll probably go through Downsview
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Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

[Evan Leibovitch via talk]

Not necessarily, especially if you're coming from the east end. There is now 
the 199B Finch Rocket that goes express from Scarborough Centre, via Finch 
Station, right into to York. West of Dufferin it uses reserved bus lanes. 

- Evan



On 2 Oct 2016, 22:05, at 22:05, "Chris F.A. Johnson via talk"  
wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, William Park via talk wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about taking public transit to FSOSS2016.  I can get to
>> Go Union Station easy.  From there, Trip planner says
>>- Union -> University Subway line -> Downsview -> York U
>>- Union -> Yonge Subway line -> Finch -> York U
>>
>> For those living (and taking TTC) in Toronto, which route is least
>> crowded during morning/afternoon rush hours?
>
>Take the University subway. The Finch bus is a long ride.
>
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Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

[Chris F.A. Johnson via talk]

On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, William Park via talk wrote:


I'm thinking about taking public transit to FSOSS2016.  I can get to
Go Union Station easy.  From there, Trip planner says
   - Union -> University Subway line -> Downsview -> York U
   - Union -> Yonge Subway line -> Finch -> York U

For those living (and taking TTC) in Toronto, which route is least
crowded during morning/afternoon rush hours?


Take the University subway. The Finch bus is a long ride.

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