Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

[Lennart Sorensen via talk]

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 02:03:00PM -0500, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
> Looks like they've stretched the main image horizontally. The thumbnail
> (which is the same image source) has an aspect of ~1.8. They wouldn't
> stretch their wide screens to try to sell more of them, would they ...?

But all the other images look fine, just the initial one is wrong.

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Len Sorensen
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Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

[Stewart C. Russell via talk]

On 2021-01-25 4:24 p.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> 
> That's a weird picture.
> 
> In it, the monitor has an aspect ratio of roughly 2.4 -- very wide.
> The actual monitor should have an aspect ratio of 1.77.

Looks like they've stretched the main image horizontally. The thumbnail
(which is the same image source) has an aspect of ~1.8. They wouldn't
stretch their wide screens to try to sell more of them, would they ...?

cheers,
 Stewart

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Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

[D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk]

| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk 

| The two screens in my photos are each 28" and 4K
| 
,

That's a weird picture.

In it, the monitor has an aspect ratio of roughly 2.4 -- very wide.
The actual monitor should have an aspect ratio of 1.77.
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Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

[Evan Leibovitch via talk]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 11:25, Giles Orr via talk  wrote:


> If you're not tied to 'vlc', try 'mpv' as a movie player.  I have both 
> installed
> and used vlc as my main video program for many years, but now mostly lean
> to mpv.  Can't promise it won't have issues with the layout, but I think
> it's worth a try.
>

Interesting results.

mpv works fine, but I miss having a playlist and advanced controls (ie,
speedup).
I discovered "smplayer", which gives a fuller feature set to mpv/mplayer,
but it then has the same problems as I encountered with VLC.

The "aging eyes" issue is one I'm familiar with: my desktop now has a 43"(!)
> primary monitor that's flanked by a couple vertical monitors (those are
> different computers, and not always on).  Re-arranging the login screens
> to be vertical can be a real PITA depending on which login manager it is,
> otherwise it works quite well.


It was super simple under KDE "display configuration" settings.

If money (and desk real estate) aren't an issue, I would recommend seeing
> if you can find a big-ass monitor in the 40" range - I love that thing.
> Your eyes will thank you.  I was lucky though: it's actually a "monitor" 
> rather
> than a repurposed TV, it's 4K, and I managed to get it for under $600 a
> couple years ago.  (Looking at current prices of 40"+ monitors, I'm
> thinking I should be using the phrase "spectacularly lucky.")


The two screens in my photos are each 28" and 4K
,
so I'm very happy with display quality. At $300 each in Xmas sales my cost
was about the same as yours and total screen size is comparable. Don't
think I have much budget to upgrade them in the near future. Current 4K
monitors of 40" or more appear upwards of $1,200.

If you're okay with a TV (I'm not clear on the disadvantages - distorted
> colour palettes, high contrast, limited ports?), those are available at
> lower prices.
>

As an alternative I had considered a high-end 42" 4K TV. They're about
$600, and the lag time on high-end units should be acceptable for most uses
except high-intensity gaming (which I don't do). The big difference in
price is because TV manufacturers get subsidized for access to TV-watching
data, which is a non-issue if the screen is not enabled for the Internet or
"smart" features.

- Evan
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Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

[o1bigtenor via talk]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Giles Orr via talk  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 02:23, Evan Leibovitch via talk  
> wrote:
> > Last week, in an attempt to make my desktop more readable to my ageing 
> > eyes, I bought a $40 stand and set up my monitors vertically (see 1st pic).
> >
> > Changing the KDE setup to accommodate this (Kubuntu 20.04 LTS) was easy, 
> > and all of my apps seem to work fine with the new setup ... except VLC.
> >
> > VLC no longer works the way it used to.
> >
> > Videos will now play only if I decouple the video window from the VLC 
> > interface ("Integrate video in interface" must be unchecked). And now if I 
> > try to resize the interface, it visually "stutters" (see second photo) and 
> > remains stuttered in this form until I resize the window again.
> >
> > I have tried multiple options for video output with no change in behaviour. 
> > Again, the videos display fine but only if I separate the video window from 
> > the interface window.  Resizing the video window works fine. Also, videos 
> > displayed inside the browser (ie Plex and YouTube) work fine.
> >
> > All suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Hi Evan.
>
> I apologize for not directly addressing the problem you're asking
> about, but I'll offer a couple possible solutions.
>
> If you're not tied to 'vlc', try 'mpv' as a movie player.  I have both
> installed and used vlc as my main video program for many years, but
> now mostly lean to mpv.  Can't promise it won't have issues with the
> layout, but I think it's worth a try.
>
> The "aging eyes" issue is one I'm familiar with: my desktop now has a
> 43"(!) primary monitor that's flanked by a couple vertical monitors
> (those are different computers, and not always on).  Re-arranging the
> login screens to be vertical can be a real PITA depending on which
> login manager it is, otherwise it works quite well.  If money (and
> desk real estate) aren't an issue, I would recommend seeing if you can
> find a big-ass monitor in the 40" range - I love that thing.  Your
> eyes will thank you.  I was lucky though: it's actually a "monitor"
> rather than a repurposed TV, it's 4K, and I managed to get it for
> under $600 a couple years ago.  (Looking at current prices of 40"+
> monitors, I'm thinking I should be using the phrase "spectacularly
> lucky.")  That's not a popular market segment, so such items are thin
> on the ground and/or quite expensive.  If you're okay with a TV (I'm
> not clear on the disadvantages - distorted colour palettes, high
> contrast, limited ports?), those are available at lower prices.
>

I'm presently fighting with videogen (mode utility) trying to find some way
tp dp exactly this. Got the TV for just over $500 including all the taxes and
sundry other 'fees'. I want to use it as one more
monitor - - - - except EDID is not working so I'm trying to find a way to
develop a custom modeline then I will have 3840x2160_30 - - - - likely
quite good enough for CAD work.
(Any ideas/suggestions please let me know (on knees begging!!!))

Regards

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Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

[Giles Orr via talk]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 02:23, Evan Leibovitch via talk  wrote:
> Last week, in an attempt to make my desktop more readable to my ageing eyes, 
> I bought a $40 stand and set up my monitors vertically (see 1st pic).
>
> Changing the KDE setup to accommodate this (Kubuntu 20.04 LTS) was easy, and 
> all of my apps seem to work fine with the new setup ... except VLC.
>
> VLC no longer works the way it used to.
>
> Videos will now play only if I decouple the video window from the VLC 
> interface ("Integrate video in interface" must be unchecked). And now if I 
> try to resize the interface, it visually "stutters" (see second photo) and 
> remains stuttered in this form until I resize the window again.
>
> I have tried multiple options for video output with no change in behaviour. 
> Again, the videos display fine but only if I separate the video window from 
> the interface window.  Resizing the video window works fine. Also, videos 
> displayed inside the browser (ie Plex and YouTube) work fine.
>
> All suggestions are appreciated.

Hi Evan.

I apologize for not directly addressing the problem you're asking
about, but I'll offer a couple possible solutions.

If you're not tied to 'vlc', try 'mpv' as a movie player.  I have both
installed and used vlc as my main video program for many years, but
now mostly lean to mpv.  Can't promise it won't have issues with the
layout, but I think it's worth a try.

The "aging eyes" issue is one I'm familiar with: my desktop now has a
43"(!) primary monitor that's flanked by a couple vertical monitors
(those are different computers, and not always on).  Re-arranging the
login screens to be vertical can be a real PITA depending on which
login manager it is, otherwise it works quite well.  If money (and
desk real estate) aren't an issue, I would recommend seeing if you can
find a big-ass monitor in the 40" range - I love that thing.  Your
eyes will thank you.  I was lucky though: it's actually a "monitor"
rather than a repurposed TV, it's 4K, and I managed to get it for
under $600 a couple years ago.  (Looking at current prices of 40"+
monitors, I'm thinking I should be using the phrase "spectacularly
lucky.")  That's not a popular market segment, so such items are thin
on the ground and/or quite expensive.  If you're okay with a TV (I'm
not clear on the disadvantages - distorted colour palettes, high
contrast, limited ports?), those are available at lower prices.

-- 
Giles
https://www.gilesorr.com/
giles...@gmail.com
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Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

[o1bigtenor via talk]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:23 AM Evan Leibovitch via talk
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Last week, in an attempt to make my desktop more readable to my ageing eyes, 
> I bought a $40 stand and set up my monitors vertically (see 1st pic).
>
> Changing the KDE setup to accommodate this (Kubuntu 20.04 LTS) was easy, and 
> all of my apps seem to work fine with the new setup ... except VLC.
>

Quite some years ago I chose to have more than even 2 monitors - - - -
I do have one that is in portrait mode and absolutely love it for
reading pdfs!
(So I 'get' at least somewhat of your gist - - - grin!).
I use LXQT and I've not found such behavior - - - - -maybe check that out.

Regards
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