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Good explanation. We had a large globe at kansas school for the blind with raised lines for these lines as well as land and mountains and so forth. I'd love to have that globe, stood on a stand and was I'd guess 3 feet in diameter. Anyhow, as I recall, some times degrees are given in decimals and some times given in degrees minutes and seconds. If I remember right, one minute is one nautical mile which is about a mile and an eighth, Alexa says 6076 feet. This comes out 1.15 mile. This is true at the equater of course as if you go north or south the lines get closer. That is why our counties here in Kansas which are square have jogs in the roads called lines of corection. You can't lay out squares on a round globe. Here is a trivia question I won on the radio when I lived in Vegas. Name the most northern, eastern, western and southern states in the united states. Hawaii, of course is easy for the south one. For the north, it is Alaska for all three. The reason why is Alaska reaches furtherest longitude lines east and west of any other ease or west states. . Hope I haven't bored you all to much. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Dave, Thanks very much for your detailed explanation, as well as ideas. At first I thought there might just be TMI, but nevertheless, I found it quite eye opening. I'll look forward to visiting the sites and doing some experimenting with coordinates. Always fun to tackle something new. On 2/4/2019 12:25 PM, David via Talk wrote: OK, perhaps I did not deal with one question, so let me just add on the following. How Will A Website Know The Coordinates Of Your Town? Could be many ways. Maybe they have collected some coordinates from mapping services in different countries. Or, they could ask their users to provide coordinates. Say you are out driving. When you stop at a local restaurant, you enjoy the food very much. You then would go to some kind of rating website. Here you enter the coordinates for the city, and you have added to a database of coordinates for that city. Likewise, probably you found the small village really cozy and beautiful. You now would log on to a mapping service, like the one I pointed you to, and make sure the coordinates from your GPS, or other services on your cellphone, will be registered for that nice place. If thousands, millions or even a couple of billion people do this, and given the website provider has a big enough server, in time the database will grow into most places on earth. At least the populated, and traficated parts of the globe. Even when you participate in different services, like weather measurement, you might be asked your positioning coordinates. Who knows, maybe some of the different service providers exchange coordinate databases, thereby increasing the total amount of places registered. And the accuracy of coordinates for each town. Google, for one, will have collected millions of coordinates. A guess could be, that you might be able to buy databases from them, to get the charts for given areas. Guess and fantasize as you want. Smiles. If you do a web search for a term like: New York USA longitude latitude , or replace the city with your own, you will find yourself presented with numerous services providing you the coordinates. Some of the services might be paid-for, others are free for private usage. And still others, will provide what is name an API, which is an interface for you to implement into your own service. The WeatherOrNot app, will from originally, have taken your city name, and gone to such an API service, retrieving the coordinates. It then will have stored them in the ini file. For who knows what reason, the communication between the app and the API, seem to have been halted or even discontinued. Was it because a subscription was not renewed, the API changed the way it should be accessed, or simply an agreement that came to its final - well why bother speculating. Next, the Weather app, will take these coordinates, and bring them to some API for retrieving weather info for that specific place. A quick search for such an API, in case you could build a "new" version of the WeatherOrNot app, gave me the info that wunderground does offer such an API. I do not know what the license for such a service includes, nor to what extent it will be a matter of economic funding. And likely you can get some other services from other providers. Any programmer that wants something to fill his day, there you have a project for your enjoyment. Smiles. David On 2/4/2019 6:33 PM, David via Talk wrote: Larry and the resst, I will spend a few minutes of your time, attempting to answer the question of yours, the way I understood your asking. How come, that every place on earth, can be refered to by a set of coordinates? First of all, we need to understand the terms Longitude, and Latitude. Are you a former sighted person, or still have a certain amount of eye-sight to lean on, this might be basic for you. For those of you who grew up with no sight, geography might be one of the classes where things sometimes got a bit too simplified. So let's take a moment to explain the two terms. Imagine the earth, being a fruit, like an orange. You know, if you peel an orange, the inner fruit will consist of several wedges. Where all the wedges meet, on top, and in the bottom of the fruit - is where the poles are; North on top, South-pole (or Antartica) in the bottom. The lines between the individual wedges, which runs from one pole to the other, would now be your Longitudes. The fruit only holds a few longitudes, whereas the Earth has been divided into 360 longitudes. To make things easier for all who navigate, the longitude that runs through Greenwich - which I do hold is located in the UK - has been defined as Longitude 0. Any longitudes to the West (or left on the map), will have a negative longitude value. Any longitude to the East (or right) of the Greenwich, will be a positive longitude. When you, at the strict opposite side of the globe, have the positives and negatives meet, you are standing on the 180th longitude. By the way, that
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Here is my ini file for what is worth. To get the file you want, go to the link below and hit enter on that file. http://www.shellworld.net/~butchb Butch Bussen 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Butch, I for one would appreciate seeing your weather.ini file. Sorry David, I haven't yet had time to look at your instructions, but plan to do so. I find it kind of interesting that if one fills in the zip code of a particular location, that it equates to the longitude or latitude of a particular city . Any ideas as to how this works, or is this a big "duh" on my part Who knows, maybe you covered this in your explanation already. Thanks so much though for your help from I'm sure all of us who wish to continue using this handy little app. Larry On 2/4/2019 7:48 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I could put up my weather ini file if that would help. Mine has 3 cities in it, but you could likely edit it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Thanks for this. I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just > yet. I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your > being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries. I fortunately do > have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to follow > and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On > Behalf Of David via Talk > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: David > Subject: Re: Weather or not issue > > OK, guys. > This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. > I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the > WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick > searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have > no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so > you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the > following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. > > As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file > before you modify it at all. > > OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude > coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying > to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be > fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: > https://www.latlong.net/ > > When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your > city. Like: > Toronto, On > for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. > Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. > Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse > Mode here. > > The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city > or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button > on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude > and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be > described below. > > In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for > the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each > city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the > text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info > into your ini file. > > How To Modify The Ini File? > Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to > the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by > it, step by step. > > First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter > E. The user profile folder will open. > > Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: > WeatherOrNot.ini > , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. > Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all > punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are > all important. > > In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads > [Locations] > . Do NOT modify this line. > > Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You > now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. > What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To > keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it > to your personal location: > Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, > please note: > To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location > we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as > you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it > in a
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OK, perhaps I did not deal with one question, so let me just add on the following. How Will A Website Know The Coordinates Of Your Town? Could be many ways. Maybe they have collected some coordinates from mapping services in different countries. Or, they could ask their users to provide coordinates. Say you are out driving. When you stop at a local restaurant, you enjoy the food very much. You then would go to some kind of rating website. Here you enter the coordinates for the city, and you have added to a database of coordinates for that city. Likewise, probably you found the small village really cozy and beautiful. You now would log on to a mapping service, like the one I pointed you to, and make sure the coordinates from your GPS, or other services on your cellphone, will be registered for that nice place. If thousands, millions or even a couple of billion people do this, and given the website provider has a big enough server, in time the database will grow into most places on earth. At least the populated, and traficated parts of the globe. Even when you participate in different services, like weather measurement, you might be asked your positioning coordinates. Who knows, maybe some of the different service providers exchange coordinate databases, thereby increasing the total amount of places registered. And the accuracy of coordinates for each town. Google, for one, will have collected millions of coordinates. A guess could be, that you might be able to buy databases from them, to get the charts for given areas. Guess and fantasize as you want. Smiles. If you do a web search for a term like: New York USA longitude latitude , or replace the city with your own, you will find yourself presented with numerous services providing you the coordinates. Some of the services might be paid-for, others are free for private usage. And still others, will provide what is name an API, which is an interface for you to implement into your own service. The WeatherOrNot app, will from originally, have taken your city name, and gone to such an API service, retrieving the coordinates. It then will have stored them in the ini file. For who knows what reason, the communication between the app and the API, seem to have been halted or even discontinued. Was it because a subscription was not renewed, the API changed the way it should be accessed, or simply an agreement that came to its final - well why bother speculating. Next, the Weather app, will take these coordinates, and bring them to some API for retrieving weather info for that specific place. A quick search for such an API, in case you could build a "new" version of the WeatherOrNot app, gave me the info that wunderground does offer such an API. I do not know what the license for such a service includes, nor to what extent it will be a matter of economic funding. And likely you can get some other services from other providers. Any programmer that wants something to fill his day, there you have a project for your enjoyment. Smiles. David On 2/4/2019 6:33 PM, David via Talk wrote: > Larry and the resst, > I will spend a few minutes of your time, attempting to answer the > question of yours, the way I understood your asking. > > How come, that every place on earth, can be refered to by a set of > coordinates? > > First of all, we need to understand the terms Longitude, and Latitude. > Are you a former sighted person, or still have a certain amount of > eye-sight to lean on, this might be basic for you. For those of you who > grew up with no sight, geography might be one of the classes where > things sometimes got a bit too simplified. So let's take a moment to > explain the two terms. > > Imagine the earth, being a fruit, like an orange. You know, if you peel > an orange, the inner fruit will consist of several wedges. Where all the > wedges meet, on top, and in the bottom of the fruit - is where the poles > are; North on top, South-pole (or Antartica) in the bottom. The lines > between the individual wedges, which runs from one pole to the other, > would now be your Longitudes. The fruit only holds a few longitudes, > whereas the Earth has been divided into 360 longitudes. To make things > easier for all who navigate, the longitude that runs through Greenwich - > which I do hold is located in the UK - has been defined as Longitude 0. > Any longitudes to the West (or left on the map), will have a negative > longitude value. Any longitude to the East (or right) of the Greenwich, > will be a positive longitude. When you, at the strict opposite side of > the globe, have the positives and negatives meet, you are standing on > the 180th longitude. By the way, that particular longitude - 180 - will > also be known as the Date-line. This due to the fact, that is where the > 24-hour day has been defined by human wisdom, to wrap. You will very > likely be quite familiar with time-zones, and know that at given times > throughout
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Of course, if anyone could provide a sample file, it would be fine. As things stands, once you install the app, it will create its basic ini file. That is, it will set up its hotkeys. And the hotkeys, are the only part of the ini file, that I did not already cover in my description. All the rest of the file, however long it is, will be one or more locations, added as I described. In the Locations section, you need one location line holding the label and coordinates for each place you want included. You need one section, holding all settings, for each location. Following the steps outlined, you do not really need anything from anywhere else, but what the app already has set up for you. The rest will be for you to enter manually. Try opening your user profile folder, find the WeatherOrNot.ini file, and add on the lines in my earlier message. You will immediately get the weather conditions for the city of Toronto, Ontario in Canada. The example was, for the reason of being comprehendable, a real-life example. Again, should anyone want a copy of an already working ini file, let me know, and I could email it to you. Or, someone could put it on their dropbox or the like. Just you won't find any further secrets in there, except from what you already have. David On 2/4/2019 2:48 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > I could put up my weather ini file if that would help. Mine has 3 > cities in it, but you could likely edit it. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > >> Thanks for this. I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just >> yet. I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your >> being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries. I fortunately >> do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to >> follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Amanda Lee >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> On >> Behalf Of David via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: David >> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue >> >> OK, guys. >> This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. >> I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the >> WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick >> searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do >> have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its >> info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I >> tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. >> >> As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file >> before you modify it at all. >> >> OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude >> coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are >> trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found >> to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: >> https://www.latlong.net/ >> >> When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your >> city. Like: >> Toronto, On >> for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. >> Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. >> Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on >> Browse Mode here. >> >> The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact >> city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the >> Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for >> the Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, >> as will be described below. >> >> In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice >> for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for >> each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go >> to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the >> given info into your ini file. >> >> How To Modify The Ini File? >> Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get >> to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will >> go by it, step by step. >> >> First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the >> letter E. The user profile folder will open. >> >> Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: >> WeatherOrNot.ini >> , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. >> Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out >> all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they >> are all important. >> >> In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads >> [Locations] >> . Do NOT modify this line. >> >> Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. >> You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. >> What the app wants here, is a section
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Larry and the resst, I will spend a few minutes of your time, attempting to answer the question of yours, the way I understood your asking. How come, that every place on earth, can be refered to by a set of coordinates? First of all, we need to understand the terms Longitude, and Latitude. Are you a former sighted person, or still have a certain amount of eye-sight to lean on, this might be basic for you. For those of you who grew up with no sight, geography might be one of the classes where things sometimes got a bit too simplified. So let's take a moment to explain the two terms. Imagine the earth, being a fruit, like an orange. You know, if you peel an orange, the inner fruit will consist of several wedges. Where all the wedges meet, on top, and in the bottom of the fruit - is where the poles are; North on top, South-pole (or Antartica) in the bottom. The lines between the individual wedges, which runs from one pole to the other, would now be your Longitudes. The fruit only holds a few longitudes, whereas the Earth has been divided into 360 longitudes. To make things easier for all who navigate, the longitude that runs through Greenwich - which I do hold is located in the UK - has been defined as Longitude 0. Any longitudes to the West (or left on the map), will have a negative longitude value. Any longitude to the East (or right) of the Greenwich, will be a positive longitude. When you, at the strict opposite side of the globe, have the positives and negatives meet, you are standing on the 180th longitude. By the way, that particular longitude - 180 - will also be known as the Date-line. This due to the fact, that is where the 24-hour day has been defined by human wisdom, to wrap. You will very likely be quite familiar with time-zones, and know that at given times throughout the day, you are sleeping, while other locations on Earth will be quite enjoying their lunch. OK, so that all took care of the longitudes. But what are latitudes? Get back to your orange. Place it so that the southern pole rests on the table, and the North-Pole is located on the very top point of the fruit. Take a pkiece of rope, and wrap it around the very belly of the fruit - that is, where the fruit is at its very thickest. This belt, is the Equator, running exactly mid-way between the two poles, and all around the globe. It is Latitude 0. Go ahead, and stretch new belts around your fruit, at exact intervals, until you reach the North-pole, or top of the fruit. You now should hav 180 such belts, and they are all positively numbered. Repeat the action, stretching belts around the southern hemosphere of your globe, again equally intervalling them, till you reach 180, which will be encircling the Southern Pole. All the southern latitude belts, will have negative numbers. Now that we have divided our globe into longitude lines, and latitude belts, it all forms a coordinate system. Easily understood, is the fact that we could refer to any place, which happen to be located at the very crossing point of any of these lines. But what about the places, which happen to be located anywhere in the areas BETWEEN the grid lines? How can we best refer to them? In the class of navigation, you would be talking about minutes, degrees and seconds. They are not completely linked to the time you can read on a clock, and I won't claim to understand these calculations too well. What's more, we do not need to fully understand. But let me tell you that modern technology has made it all a bit easier for us humans. How about we tell that you need to move a certain amount of steps, to get from one longitude to the next. And likewise, you need a given number of steps, to get from latitude A, to latitude B. (please note, I am not here refering to a walking step, but rather any predefined stretch we have to move in our coordinate system.) If now, we could have a way to tell which longitude and latitude to start from, and how many steps into the grid square between our coordinate lines we are actually positioned, it would make our location quite much more accurate. So how do we do that? If you noticed, when we were to fill in our Location coordinates, in the WeatherOrNot ini file, we used some decimal values. The main part of the value, the digits to the left of the decimal point, is the number that directly refers to the line number in our coordinate. A latitude value of 63.49420, will then refer to the latitude number 63 - counted from the Equator and to the North. The minor part of the decimal number - in our example 49420, will be how far - how many steps - further north of the 63rd latitude our position is. Again, a Longitude value of -59.12345, which is a negative number - will refer us to the 59th longitude to the West of Greenwich; and further 12345 units into the west. If we now combine the latitude and longitude numbers, we could get to a quite exact position on earth. How exact
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Butch, I for one would appreciate seeing your weather.ini file. Sorry David, I haven't yet had time to look at your instructions, but plan to do so. I find it kind of interesting that if one fills in the zip code of a particular location, that it equates to the longitude or latitude of a particular city . Any ideas as to how this works, or is this a big "duh" on my part Thanks so much though for your help from I'm sure all of us who wish to continue using this handy little app. Larry On 2/4/2019 7:48 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I could put up my weather ini file if that would help. Mine has 3 cities in it, but you could likely edit it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: Thanks for this. I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just yet. I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries. I fortunately do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: Weather or not issue OK, guys. This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you modify it at all. OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: https://www.latlong.net/ When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like: Toronto, On for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode here. The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below. In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file. How To Modify The Ini File? Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step. First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The user profile folder will open. Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: WeatherOrNot.ini , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all important. In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads [Locations] . Do NOT modify this line. Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal location: Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please note: To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment. Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website. Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the next modification of the ini file. Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end. You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new
RE: Weather or not issue
I could put up my weather ini file if that would help. Mine has 3 cities in it, but you could likely edit it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: Thanks for this. I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just yet. I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries. I fortunately do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: Weather or not issue OK, guys. This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you modify it at all. OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: https://www.latlong.net/ When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like: Toronto, On for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode here. The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below. In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file. How To Modify The Ini File? Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step. First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The user profile folder will open. Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: WeatherOrNot.ini , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all important. In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads [Locations] . Do NOT modify this line. Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal location: Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please note: To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment. Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website. Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the next modification of the ini file. Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end. You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info the app will read to you. A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to the left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and character sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your location line. In our example, it will look like this: [Toronto, ontario] . Press Enter when you are done. Now that we have established the section, it is time to set it all up. The section should
Re: Jaws List?
Which list is the best? What is the instructions to join?? -Bob -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 11:48 PM To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: Jaws List? The other list is more relibable and is followed by freedom scientific. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of John Covici via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 9:01 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: Jaws List? The main group seems to be j...@groups.io, so you would do jfw+subscr...@groups.io to subscribe. I don't know about the other list. On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:55:03 -0500, joseph hudson via Talk wrote: Hi Robert, here it is copied from the homepage. The directive dress to join the group. And I will also place the link to the homepage in the messages well. jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io https://groups.io/g/jaws-users-list > On Feb 2, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: > > Lloyd, > > I cannot get subscribed to the jaws list below. Are you sure that it is correct? > > -Bob > > > -Original Message- From: Loy Green via Talk > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:47 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Loy Green > Subject: Re: Jaws List? > > I have been a long time user of WE as well and still use it a lot, but also am using JAWS. It took me a while to learn. Here is subscription address for one of the JAWS users groups. > jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io > - Original Message - From: Robert Ringwald via Talk > To: Talk > Cc: Robert Ringwald > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:38 PM > Subject: Jaws List? > > > I finally succumbed. Since WE is no longer supported, I figured that > I had better get Jaws while the gettin' is good. > > Since I had the latest version of WE with 2 SMAs, I got Jaws for free. > > What is the email list for Jaws? > > -Bob Ringwald > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gm ail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald. com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jhud7789%40twc .com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.c ovici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit
FW: Weather or not issue
Hi all, I had intended to send this to the whole this, but it just went to David alone. Anyway, here it is, as intended. Smile Take care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton Sent: February 4, 2019 1:03 AM To: 'David' Subject: RE: Weather or not issue Hi David, Thanks so very much for investigating this matter, and my compliments to you for having found a solution to a rather prickly problem. Thanks also for your kind acknowledgment of my home town, old Toronto, on the Great Lakes here in big old Canada. Smile I tested your solution by successfully adding New York City, in the Empire State of the U.S., and it works beautifully. It seems that the key to adding a city is indeed acquiring a decimal value for latitude and longitude, and so the text labels one uses is irrelevant, as long as one matches the labels in the two sections, as you said. Excellent work, David. Smile All the best, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: David Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Weather or not issue OK, guys. This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you modify it at all. OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6f0b78c2423f49f289e108d68a2b14b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636848314961161683sdata=NQTC4YP3torOtuB7zWVBLFwfeE4nDmeg0cLRnThw%2F6U%3Dreserved=0 When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like: Toronto, On for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode here. The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below. In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file. How To Modify The Ini File? Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step. First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The user profile folder will open. Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: WeatherOrNot.ini , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all important. In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads [Locations] . Do NOT modify this line. Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal location: Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please note: To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment. Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website. Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the next modification of the ini file. Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end. You now will have to
