Re: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-30 Thread Dave via Talk 
You say that many work places will not trust NVDA.  I actually have notfound
all that many who are willing to even Hire someone blind, and even fewer
who know what a Screen Reader is used for, let alone actually know there
are several companies that make a Screen Reader, one of them being NVDA.

Some know of Jaws, but not much more than the name Jaws.  

Interesting,

Grumpy Dave


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RE: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-30 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk 
Hi Dennis.  I am using NVDA now and it is just as good as JAWS if not
better, in my opinion.

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NVDA is not as good as Jaws as Steve said it is not as powerful ant that is
very true.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:10 PM
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Subject: RE: How to learn to use n v d a

Hi,

By the same token, because it is open source, it is the least secure in the
workplace.  You will find many enterprises that won't trust NVDA
unfortunately.

It is a good screen reader though, not as configurable as JAWS, but not bad
at all.

All the best

Steve

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Sent: 29 May 2017 06:37
To: Ivan Cribb <icr...@iinet.net.au>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: RE: How to learn to use n v d a

Hi Ivan,
NVDA is the screen reader of the future, because everyone has access to its
code. It is called open source, because everyone can contribute to its code.
NVDA will not be bought, because we, the community own it LOL!.
To subscribe to the NVDA list, many experts on there:
nvda+subscr...@nvda.groups.io
You can download NVDA 2017.1, the latest version for free at:
www.nvaccess.org
You can also get tutorials off of there, and find out about many other
sources of tutorials that many people have done on using NVDA.
You would find that it is more like Window Eyes than JAWS is, and there are
a lot of great young users contributing to its code all of the time. It is
not owned by any company. NVAccess imploys just four people, and they are
just the cherity organization that keeps it altogether. Most of what happens
with NVDA is done by the blind all over the world.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ivan Cribb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: a...@damorris.com
Subject: How to learn to use n v d a

I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to
another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the
obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it..

Thanks for any help.

Ivan Cribbb 

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RE: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-30 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
NVDA is not as good as Jaws as Steve said it is not as powerful ant that is
very true.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:10 PM
To: 'David Moore'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: How to learn to use n v d a

Hi,

By the same token, because it is open source, it is the least secure in the
workplace.  You will find many enterprises that won't trust NVDA
unfortunately.

It is a good screen reader though, not as configurable as JAWS, but not bad
at all.

All the best

Steve

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Sent: 29 May 2017 06:37
To: Ivan Cribb <icr...@iinet.net.au>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: How to learn to use n v d a

Hi Ivan,
NVDA is the screen reader of the future, because everyone has access to its
code. It is called open source, because everyone can contribute to its code.
NVDA will not be bought, because we, the community own it LOL!.
To subscribe to the NVDA list, many experts on there:
nvda+subscr...@nvda.groups.io
You can download NVDA 2017.1, the latest version for free at:
www.nvaccess.org
You can also get tutorials off of there, and find out about many other
sources of tutorials that many people have done on using NVDA.
You would find that it is more like Window Eyes than JAWS is, and there are
a lot of great young users contributing to its code all of the time. It is
not owned by any company. NVAccess imploys just four people, and they are
just the cherity organization that keeps it altogether. Most of what happens
with NVDA is done by the blind all over the world.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ivan Cribb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: a...@damorris.com
Subject: How to learn to use n v d a

I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to
another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the
obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it..

Thanks for any help.

Ivan Cribbb 

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RE: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-30 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk 
Hi,

By the same token, because it is open source, it is the least secure in the
workplace.  You will find many enterprises that won't trust NVDA
unfortunately.

It is a good screen reader though, not as configurable as JAWS, but not bad
at all.

All the best

Steve

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On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk
Sent: 29 May 2017 06:37
To: Ivan Cribb <icr...@iinet.net.au>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: How to learn to use n v d a

Hi Ivan,
NVDA is the screen reader of the future, because everyone has access to its
code. It is called open source, because everyone can contribute to its code.
NVDA will not be bought, because we, the community own it LOL!.
To subscribe to the NVDA list, many experts on there:
nvda+subscr...@nvda.groups.io
You can download NVDA 2017.1, the latest version for free at:
www.nvaccess.org
You can also get tutorials off of there, and find out about many other
sources of tutorials that many people have done on using NVDA.
You would find that it is more like Window Eyes than JAWS is, and there are
a lot of great young users contributing to its code all of the time. It is
not owned by any company. NVAccess imploys just four people, and they are
just the cherity organization that keeps it altogether. Most of what happens
with NVDA is done by the blind all over the world.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ivan Cribb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: a...@damorris.com
Subject: How to learn to use n v d a

I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to
another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the
obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it..

Thanks for any help.

Ivan Cribbb 

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RE: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-29 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk 
Wow!  I wish I had dived more in to basic actually.
73
Darrell Bowles
KI4AUY

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Subject: Re: How to learn to use n v d a

I agree and the same here.  It always cracks me up, so many blind people think 
their way is the only way.  If you aren't doing what I'm doing you are notat as 
"smart"  I don't even have windows ten.  I'm sure some how inferior.  I still 
have and enjoy my dos computers and I still prgram in gw basic and love every 
minute of it.  I've been doing this stuff since 1983, so I think I can make a 
decision on whether or not I want to run jaws.  Note, this decision is good for 
me, ot necessarily any one else.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
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> I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to 
> resort to another screen reader I want one that does not belong to 
> VFO. NVDA seems the obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use 
> it..
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Ivan Cribbb
>
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Re: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-29 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk 
I agree and the same here.  It always cracks me up, so many blind people 
think their way is the only way.  If you aren't doing what I'm doing you 
are notat as "smart"  I don't even have windows ten.  I'm sure some how 
inferior.  I still have and enjoy my dos computers and I still prgram in 
gw basic and love every minute of it.  I've been doing this stuff since 
1983, so I think I can make a decision on whether or not I want to run 
jaws.  Note, this decision is good for me, ot necessarily any one else.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


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I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to
another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the
obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it..

Thanks for any help.

Ivan Cribbb

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RE: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-28 Thread David Moore via Talk 
Hi Ivan,
NVDA is the screen reader of the future, because everyone has access to its 
code. It is called open source, because everyone can contribute to its code. 
NVDA will not be bought, because we, the community own it LOL!.
To subscribe to the NVDA list, many experts on there:
nvda+subscr...@nvda.groups.io
You can download NVDA 2017.1, the latest version for free at:
www.nvaccess.org
You can also get tutorials off of there, and find out about many other sources 
of tutorials that many people have done on using NVDA.
You would find that it is more like Window Eyes than JAWS is, and there are a 
lot of great young users contributing to its code all of the time. It is not 
owned by any company. NVAccess imploys just four people, and they are just the 
cherity organization that keeps it altogether. Most of what happens with NVDA 
is done by the blind all over the world.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ivan Cribb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: a...@damorris.com
Subject: How to learn to use n v d a

I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to
another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the
obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it..

Thanks for any help.

Ivan Cribbb 

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Re: How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-28 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk 
And the access is a good resource. Also, there is a training manual, that if I 
can, I will hunt it down and send it to you.

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> On May 29, 2017, at 1:24 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk  
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> I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to
> another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the
> obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it..
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Ivan Cribbb 
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How to learn to use n v d a

2017-05-28 Thread Ivan Cribb via Talk 
I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to
another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the
obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it..

Thanks for any help.

Ivan Cribbb 

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