Re: PDF documents

2016-07-07 Thread Dave Basden via Talk 
On the menu bar at the top of the screen is one entitled Go to or 
something similar.  Press alt and arrow across to it.  Then arrow 
down once to previous page and press enter.  You can supposedly use 
an alt key combination but this has never worked for me.  There is 
probably a conflict with some other function.




At 06:13 PM 7/7/2016, you wrote:

I am running Windows 10 and Acrobat reader DC with the latest version of WE.
When I go to a web site where there are PDF files to view after 
opening them I can't return to the web page from where the PDF link 
was.  How can I change this behavior so I can read the PDF then 
return to the web site I was on?

Thanks
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Re: PDF documents

2016-07-07 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk 
Marc, Thanks for this. RJ


On 7/7/2016 9:24 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
> Don,
> Here is a link to an Adobe support article with instructions on forcing PDFs 
> to open in Adobe Reader instead of your browser: 
> https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html. You can 
> also save the PDF file to your computer using the link's context menu and 
> then open it in Adobe Reader. Pressing Enter on a PDF link in a web browser 
> using default settings leads to a poor experience for screen reader users.
> Best,
> Marc
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> On July 7, 2016 9:14:08 PM Don H via Talk  wrote:
>
>> I am running Windows 10 and Acrobat reader DC with the latest version of WE.
>> When I go to a web site where there are PDF files to view after opening
>> them I can't return to the web page from where the PDF link was.  How
>> can I change this behavior so I can read the PDF then return to the web
>> site I was on?
>> Thanks
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Re: PDF documents

2016-07-07 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk 
Don,
Here is a link to an Adobe support article with instructions on forcing PDFs to 
open in Adobe Reader instead of your browser: 
https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html. You can also 
save the PDF file to your computer using the link's context menu and then open 
it in Adobe Reader. Pressing Enter on a PDF link in a web browser using default 
settings leads to a poor experience for screen reader users. 
Best, 
Marc

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On July 7, 2016 9:14:08 PM Don H via Talk  wrote:

> I am running Windows 10 and Acrobat reader DC with the latest version of WE.
> When I go to a web site where there are PDF files to view after opening 
> them I can't return to the web page from where the PDF link was.  How 
> can I change this behavior so I can read the PDF then return to the web 
> site I was on?
> Thanks
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PDF documents

2016-07-07 Thread Don H via Talk 

I am running Windows 10 and Acrobat reader DC with the latest version of WE.
When I go to a web site where there are PDF files to view after opening 
them I can't return to the web page from where the PDF link was.  How 
can I change this behavior so I can read the PDF then return to the web 
site I was on?

Thanks
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RE: Off topic, pdf documents, WE 9? shshsh, maybe the owners won't know!

2015-03-04 Thread via Talk 
Just last month, I received an invoice from Fender instruments on pdf. I got
stuck at the alert document being processed twice. On the second attempt,
though, I decided to change the infer reading order setting in the combo box
to, I think it was, top to bottom, left to right. When I pressed the Start
button, things moved along quickly.

I don't know why it hung up. 

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jo Taliaferro via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:10 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com; talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Off topic, pdf documents, WE 9? shshsh, maybe the owners won't
know!

I'm really frustrated with pdf documents.  I use WE 9, Windows 7
64-bit on a laptop, have Adobe Reader xi and I'm not sure of the correct
settings for reading  without sight.  I've tried using the setup assistant
which helps some but I also realize that scanned documents won't read at
all.   Do I need Acrobat.com or not and how might I convert a document or
newsletter into a Word document for Office 2010?  
Adobe Reader often says, Alert, document being processed!   And never does
anything but sit there!  I don't know if there are helpful apps for this or
something else but I should be able to at least read the text even with some
images in the document, right?  I mean, if it's not a scanned document.
I thank you for help from snowy MN,
Jo Taliaferro


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RE: Off topic, pdf documents, WE 9? shshsh, maybe the owners won't know!

2015-03-04 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk 
Jo,

The Adobe Reader won't do anything with scanned PDF documents.  If a document 
is accessible, you can save the 
document to text, but this won't work on scanned documents.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 11:33:49 -0600, Jo Taliaferro via Talk wrote:

Hi all,
I have been reading everything I could find on the Adobe website so I do
understand that pdf documents can't be read if they're sent as scanned
documents.  I know that authors are not always conscious about making their
documents accessible and using the WCAG guidelines.  I am asking about my
own settings and whether I have them set optimally for a blind user.  Do I
need Adobe Acrobat to convert to Word, etc.?  I have the WE app. But I
believe it's fairly old.
I don't wish to buy the Readit Air as it's very expensive and does multiple
things I don't need.   Yes, I can read pdfs on my iPhone but that doesn't
always fit for me.
I appreciate all the wisdom here.  I've been screaming at my church about
their pdf newsletter but... (sigh)...someday!
Jo Taliaferro

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RE: This is actually pretty important, was Re: pdf documents, WE 9?

2015-03-04 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk 
Hi,

Well, I don't think that could be quite true, inasmuch as, in the majority
of cases, closing Adobe Reader and reopening the document does the trick.
Rather, it is more likely that the browse mode buffer is not engaged
properly on initial open.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Don Mauck via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:21 PM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Michael Massey
Subject: RE: This is actually pretty important, was Re: pdf documents, WE 9?

It might be that the document is in protected view.  I've not found any way
to fix that  accept to press F6 until you hear protected view and then you
need to find the button that will let you enable it for that document.  This
seems to happen with any PDF file you try to open rather than saving to your
hard drive first.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk [mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:58 AM
To: Michael Massey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: This is actually pretty important, was Re: pdf documents, WE 9?

Hi

why would this be considered off-topic, and why would we want to hide this
from the AI Squared guys?  These are important questions that I 
seriously think they need to see and pay attention to, 
because it is a legitimate concern.  Anymore, pdf is a popular document on
the web, and I think Window-eyes 9 should support it to the best of its
abilities, as much as Adobe and other creators of PDF documents will allow
it to. From what I can tell, it depends largely on the way the document is
created. There accessibility tools that document creators can add to their
documents and some people just don't even realize they exist.  So I do
believe this is actually a pretty important ddiscussion, lets not hide this.



On 3/4/2015 10:37 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
 Hi, Jo.  I think I can answer one of your questions.  You are correct 
 when you mention that you hear alert, document being processed, and 
 that it just sits there.  You have to tab to the start document button 
 or whatever it is called and press it.  P d f documents don't start 
 reading automatically.  I hope others will be able to answer your
questions.

 Mike M.

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] 
 On Behalf Of Jo Taliaferro via Talk
 Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 8:10 AM
 To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com; talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Subject: Off topic, pdf documents, WE 9? shshsh, maybe the owners 
 won't know!

   I'm really frustrated with pdf documents.  I use WE 9, Windows 7 
 64-bit on a laptop, have Adobe Reader xi and I'm not sure of the 
 correct settings for reading  without sight.  I've tried using the 
 setup assistant which helps some but I also realize that scanned documents
won't read at
 all.   Do I need Acrobat.com or not and how might I convert a document or
 newsletter into a Word document for Office 2010?
 Adobe Reader often says, Alert, document being processed!   And never
does
 anything but sit there!  I don't know if there are helpful apps for 
 this or something else but I should be able to at least read the text 
 even with some images in the document, right?  I mean, if it's not a
scanned document.
 I thank you for help from snowy MN,
 Jo Taliaferro


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Re: Off topic, pdf documents, WE 9? shshsh, maybe the owners won't know!

2015-03-04 Thread Loy via Talk 
I have Abby FineReader and I can right click on a pdf file  choose to 
convert the file to a word document. FineReader is a little expensive if you 
don't need it for other things.$129 at Amazon.  OmniPage OCR software is a 
lot cheaper and probably would do the same.
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From: Jo Taliaferro via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic, pdf documents, WE 9? shshsh,maybe the owners won't 
know!




Hi all,
I have been reading everything I could find on the Adobe website so I do
understand that pdf documents can't be read if they're sent as scanned
documents.  I know that authors are not always conscious about making 
their

documents accessible and using the WCAG guidelines.  I am asking about my
own settings and whether I have them set optimally for a blind user.  Do I
need Adobe Acrobat to convert to Word, etc.?  I have the WE app. But I
believe it's fairly old.
I don't wish to buy the Readit Air as it's very expensive and does 
multiple

things I don't need.   Yes, I can read pdfs on my iPhone but that doesn't
always fit for me.
I appreciate all the wisdom here.  I've been screaming at my church about
their pdf newsletter but... (sigh)...someday!
Jo Taliaferro

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