RE: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

[David Crowell via Talk]

Hi Rod, 

I followed your below directions and though my system did updates the only
updates I got were for Windows Defender.  
According to my computer I am using Windows 10 Home edition 1511 so I guess
do not have the 1607 version as of yet.  My spouse has the same system I do
but he found how to manually download 1607 and he got a message saying this
update is not applicable to your computer.  

So we are trying to figure out what is happening.  
My computer is a Lenova all in one that I purchased a year ago before
windows 10 was released.  It had windows 8.1 and I downloaded windows 10
about two months ago.  But now I can not get the anniversary edition.  I am
using the most current version of Window Eyes with all updates also.  

So should I just wait until Windows does the update on their own or do you
think I have a problem and that is why I am not getting windows 10 version
1607.


Dave 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:03 PM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi Rick,

If you type update in the search edit box in the Start menu, Check for
Updates will appear.
If you press Enter on this, you'll be taken to the Windows Update dialog.
If you tab to the Check for updates button and Press it, you'll activate the
manual download of available updates.
Once downloads are available, tabbing to the Install button will actually
install them, and you'll be asked to restart your system when installed.
Now, if you don't manually install updates, this will normally be done
automatically if you leave your system on overnight.
I manually installed updates on my Windows 10 Pro virtual machine twice over
the last week, the last time being today.
Now, even though the Windows Update dialog continues to report that my
Windows is up to date, the current build of my Windows version is still
1511.
I'm starting to be convinced that the anniversary update is either only for
Windows 10 Home, or it will be rolled out to Pro later.
Perhaps Home users are the guinea pigs while the advanced Pro users remain
happy go lucky with their stable 1511 build. Grin

All the best,

Rod

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From: Talk
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Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi:
I don't think I have ever gotten any updates or upgrades for office 365 and
now have not gotten the upgrade for windows 10 anniversery edition.
I have received the automatic updates like for windows defender loaded
automatically.
 I am wondering if I have not registered my software correctly or something
and don't know what I don't know so cant even check things out.
Also, WE does not work correctly  when searching for features in the start
box.
I hit enter to open it, type something then have to hit the down arrow key,
tab out and back in to read every entry, not very good and not sure if this
is normal WindowEyes behavior.
There are other things I am noticing but these 2 are a good starting point
to start trying to figure things out, learn what I need to and or request
fixes as I move through trying to figure out what is going on.
I run a Dell Desktop Optiplex, windows 10 pro and the latest WE.
My Outlook in the start list and on the desktop reads as Outlook2013 but in
the properties window the executable is Outlook15 so I don't have a clue as
to what version of Outlook is on my machine and cant find it anyplace in the
Outlook ribbon thingy.
Perhaps I did not register it or something else is going on, don't have a
clue yet but hope someone might be better with navigating around Office 365.
Rick USA

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Re: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

No Rod, I've had my update since I believe August 3rd, and up to today, 
all has been working well. I will further elaborate as to what my recent 
issue is in a later post.


And almost forgot to mention, I am using Windows Pro edition.
On 8/15/2016 9:03 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Rick,

If you type update in the search edit box in the Start menu, Check for
Updates will appear.
If you press Enter on this, you'll be taken to the Windows Update dialog.
If you tab to the Check for updates button and Press it, you'll activate the
manual download of available updates.
Once downloads are available, tabbing to the Install button will actually
install them, and you'll be asked to restart your system when installed.
Now, if you don't manually install updates, this will normally be done
automatically if you leave your system on overnight.
I manually installed updates on my Windows 10 Pro virtual machine twice over
the last week, the last time being today.
Now, even though the Windows Update dialog continues to report that my
Windows is up to date, the current build of my Windows version is still
1511.
I'm starting to be convinced that the anniversary update is either only for
Windows 10 Home, or it will be rolled out to Pro later.
Perhaps Home users are the guinea pigs while the advanced Pro users remain
happy go lucky with their stable 1511 build. Grin

All the best,

Rod

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From: Talk
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Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi:
I don't think I have ever gotten any updates or upgrades for office 365 and
now have not gotten the upgrade for windows 10 anniversery edition.
I have received the automatic updates like for windows defender loaded
automatically.
 I am wondering if I have not registered my software correctly or something
and don't know what I don't know so cant even check things out.
Also, WE does not work correctly  when searching for features in the start
box.
I hit enter to open it, type something then have to hit the down arrow key,
tab out and back in to read every entry, not very good and not sure if this
is normal WindowEyes behavior.
There are other things I am noticing but these 2 are a good starting point
to start trying to figure things out, learn what I need to and or request
fixes as I move through trying to figure out what is going on.
I run a Dell Desktop Optiplex, windows 10 pro and the latest WE.
My Outlook in the start list and on the desktop reads as Outlook2013 but in
the properties window the executable is Outlook15 so I don't have a clue as
to what version of Outlook is on my machine and cant find it anyplace in the
Outlook ribbon thingy.
Perhaps I did not register it or something else is going on, don't have a
clue yet but hope someone might be better with navigating around Office 365.
Rick USA

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Re: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Hey Rod,

The anniversary update is being rolled out rather slowly. And supposedly 
Microsoft is updating newer systems first. My Windows 10 Pro machine 
which is only a few months old got the anniversary update only days 
after it was launched. So that may be at least part of the reason. And 
who knows what else they're checking for compatibility and so on be it 
that it's really a whole new install of Windows.


Regards,
Tom


On 8/15/2016 10:03 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Rick,

If you type update in the search edit box in the Start menu, Check for
Updates will appear.
If you press Enter on this, you'll be taken to the Windows Update dialog.
If you tab to the Check for updates button and Press it, you'll activate the
manual download of available updates.
Once downloads are available, tabbing to the Install button will actually
install them, and you'll be asked to restart your system when installed.
Now, if you don't manually install updates, this will normally be done
automatically if you leave your system on overnight.
I manually installed updates on my Windows 10 Pro virtual machine twice over
the last week, the last time being today.
Now, even though the Windows Update dialog continues to report that my
Windows is up to date, the current build of my Windows version is still
1511.
I'm starting to be convinced that the anniversary update is either only for
Windows 10 Home, or it will be rolled out to Pro later.
Perhaps Home users are the guinea pigs while the advanced Pro users remain
happy go lucky with their stable 1511 build. Grin

All the best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi:
I don't think I have ever gotten any updates or upgrades for office 365 and
now have not gotten the upgrade for windows 10 anniversery edition.
I have received the automatic updates like for windows defender loaded
automatically.
 I am wondering if I have not registered my software correctly or something
and don't know what I don't know so cant even check things out.
Also, WE does not work correctly  when searching for features in the start
box.
I hit enter to open it, type something then have to hit the down arrow key,
tab out and back in to read every entry, not very good and not sure if this
is normal WindowEyes behavior.
There are other things I am noticing but these 2 are a good starting point
to start trying to figure things out, learn what I need to and or request
fixes as I move through trying to figure out what is going on.
I run a Dell Desktop Optiplex, windows 10 pro and the latest WE.
My Outlook in the start list and on the desktop reads as Outlook2013 but in
the properties window the executable is Outlook15 so I don't have a clue as
to what version of Outlook is on my machine and cant find it anyplace in the
Outlook ribbon thingy.
Perhaps I did not register it or something else is going on, don't have a
clue yet but hope someone might be better with navigating around Office 365.
Rick USA

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RE: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi Rod:
I was doing some general reading about how Microsoft pushes out upgrades and
updates.
It appears, the article was confusing, that MS may hold off pushing out
upgrades and updates, other than critical ones, for about 4 months after the
initial rollout to folks like home users to ensure there are no glitches and
that any necessary fixes are in place before the pro users get the update or
upgrade.
There are also other schedules they use for Enterprise and some specialized
users.
There is a check box on your computer you can check that would, I think,
defer installing of updates and upgrades for 8 months, not sure how it would
impact home users.
I have the default automagic install of updates and upgrades and have not
changed this setting as I was not sure if it was a good idea at the time.
I forgot to save the url to the article or would put it here for all to read
but can try to find it again if anyone is interested and cant find it.
I wonder if this is what is going on.
I wonder if MS is just waiting 4 months to push the windows 10 anniversery
edition to the Windows Pro users.
They did say that pro users could download updates and upgrades manually but
I don't recall any setting to allow automatic download and install for pro
users as they are rolled out.
This may be why we have not received the new upgrade on our windows pro
machines - fingers crossed they get it right.
As for the Office 365 updates I will look into that via the link you
provided and perhaps upgrade there but because of the problems I see others
having with the 2016 Outlook version I will need to do some homework prior
to getting off into that mire, sigh.
That's all I have this early morning to report as I am really, really busy
trying to repair my investing platform after some changes Yahoo has made to
their website and I have to switch to pulling down data from the NASDAQ now.
Later and thanks for the help.
Rick USA


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From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'Rick Thomas' <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi Rick,

If you type update in the search edit box in the Start menu, Check for
Updates will appear.
If you press Enter on this, you'll be taken to the Windows Update dialog.
If you tab to the Check for updates button and Press it, you'll activate the
manual download of available updates.
Once downloads are available, tabbing to the Install button will actually
install them, and you'll be asked to restart your system when installed.
Now, if you don't manually install updates, this will normally be done
automatically if you leave your system on overnight.
I manually installed updates on my Windows 10 Pro virtual machine twice over
the last week, the last time being today.
Now, even though the Windows Update dialog continues to report that my
Windows is up to date, the current build of my Windows version is still
1511.
I'm starting to be convinced that the anniversary update is either only for
Windows 10 Home, or it will be rolled out to Pro later.
Perhaps Home users are the guinea pigs while the advanced Pro users remain
happy go lucky with their stable 1511 build. Grin

All the best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi:
I don't think I have ever gotten any updates or upgrades for office 365 and
now have not gotten the upgrade for windows 10 anniversery edition.
I have received the automatic updates like for windows defender loaded
automatically.
 I am wondering if I have not registered my software correctly or something
and don't know what I don't know so cant even check things out.
Also, WE does not work correctly  when searching for features in the start
box.
I hit enter to open it, type something then have to hit the down arrow key,
tab out and back in to read every entry, not very good and not sure if this
is normal WindowEyes behavior.
There are other things I am noticing but these 2 are a good starting point
to start trying to figure things out, learn what I need to and or request
fixes as I move through trying to figure out what is going on.
I run a Dell Desktop Optiplex, windows 10 pro and the latest WE.
My Outlook in the start list and on the desktop reads as Outlook2013 but in
the properties window the executable is Outlook15 so I don't have a clue as
to what version of Outlook is on my machine and cant find it anyplace in the
Outlook ribbon thingy.
Perhaps I did not register it or something else is going on, don't have a
clue yet but hope someone might be better with navigating around Office 365.
Rick USA

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RE: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Rick,

If you type update in the search edit box in the Start menu, Check for
Updates will appear.
If you press Enter on this, you'll be taken to the Windows Update dialog.
If you tab to the Check for updates button and Press it, you'll activate the
manual download of available updates.
Once downloads are available, tabbing to the Install button will actually
install them, and you'll be asked to restart your system when installed.
Now, if you don't manually install updates, this will normally be done
automatically if you leave your system on overnight.
I manually installed updates on my Windows 10 Pro virtual machine twice over
the last week, the last time being today.
Now, even though the Windows Update dialog continues to report that my
Windows is up to date, the current build of my Windows version is still
1511.
I'm starting to be convinced that the anniversary update is either only for
Windows 10 Home, or it will be rolled out to Pro later.
Perhaps Home users are the guinea pigs while the advanced Pro users remain
happy go lucky with their stable 1511 build. Grin

All the best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi:
I don't think I have ever gotten any updates or upgrades for office 365 and
now have not gotten the upgrade for windows 10 anniversery edition.
I have received the automatic updates like for windows defender loaded
automatically.
 I am wondering if I have not registered my software correctly or something
and don't know what I don't know so cant even check things out.
Also, WE does not work correctly  when searching for features in the start
box.
I hit enter to open it, type something then have to hit the down arrow key,
tab out and back in to read every entry, not very good and not sure if this
is normal WindowEyes behavior.
There are other things I am noticing but these 2 are a good starting point
to start trying to figure things out, learn what I need to and or request
fixes as I move through trying to figure out what is going on.
I run a Dell Desktop Optiplex, windows 10 pro and the latest WE.
My Outlook in the start list and on the desktop reads as Outlook2013 but in
the properties window the executable is Outlook15 so I don't have a clue as
to what version of Outlook is on my machine and cant find it anyplace in the
Outlook ribbon thingy.
Perhaps I did not register it or something else is going on, don't have a
clue yet but hope someone might be better with navigating around Office 365.
Rick USA

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