RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

Thanks Steve, you make it sound so simple.

Paulette

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 6:48 AM
To: bjn...@windstream.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes

Hi,

With any screen reader and combos, just press Alt Down Arrow to open them
and Alt-Up arrow when you've made your selection.

All the best

Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: 07 June 2017 17:58
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to
select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application
I was filling out.

In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and
adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.

Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B once
I get the drop-down thing figured out.

Thanks,
Brenda
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Re: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[David via Talk]

Did I get it correct, and the initial poster will happen to have a 
similar box on their banking site as the one I get locally, the 
Alt-Down-Arrow does nothing. Neither in WinEyes, nor in NVDA, nor in 
Jaws. As a matter of fact, the box I see for determining which account 
to charge, and similarly the one for choosing the recipient, these are 
reported by the screen reader to be an Editbox. Yet, if you do not enter 
anything in the box, but simply just use the Up-/Down arrows, you will 
change the account number or name from the list you have on record. Why 
the screen readers recognize these boxes as Editting fields, and not as 
Combobox or anything else, I have never really understood.


Maybe the screen readers should start to recognize them as Editable 
Combos, and read the contents as you arrow through it. I can confirm the 
technique of tab, shift-tabbing, for reading the updated contents.


Mainly I have only seen this behavior on my banking site, and seem to 
remember seeing it on ONE other website. Probably this kind of controls 
might be a new, or extended type, that the screen readers should be 
updated to operate with. Still, might be a challenge, till they get more 
generally used. Unless you happen to be among the users who see it all 
the time in your online banking, you might not even be aware this kind 
of controls exist, or even how to cope with them. And of course, being 
in the banking system, noone else can be pointed there, to see the 
behavior, or what causes it.



On 6/8/2017 12:47 PM, Steve Nutt via Talk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With any screen reader and combos, just press Alt Down Arrow to open them
> and Alt-Up arrow when you've made your selection.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
> Sent: 07 June 2017 17:58
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes
>
> On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to
> select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
> Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application
> I was filling out.
>
> In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and
> adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.
>
> Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?
>
> Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B once
> I get the drop-down thing figured out.
>
> Thanks,
> Brenda
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RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Steve Nutt via Talk]

Hi,

With any screen reader and combos, just press Alt Down Arrow to open them
and Alt-Up arrow when you've made your selection.

All the best

Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: 07 June 2017 17:58
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to
select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application
I was filling out.

In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and
adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.

Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B once
I get the drop-down thing figured out.

Thanks,
Brenda
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RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Brenda,

On my banking site here in Canada, I use to struggle with a combo box until I 
learned that if I search for the label of the account I'm looking for, say, 
savings, I can go to the detailed activity in that account by simply clicking 
the account's labelled link.
For me, it's on the main page I land on when I first log in.

Hth,

Rod

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On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: June 7, 2017 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access 
to select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an 
application I was filling out.

In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read 
and adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.

Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B 
once I get the drop-down thing figured out.

Thanks,
Brenda
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Re: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Chris G via Talk]

Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first.
That may work.



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 Original Message 
From: Brenda via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access
to select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an
application I was filling out.

In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read
and adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.

Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B
once I get the drop-down thing figured out.

Thanks,
Brenda
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