Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-20 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Even with the Window Eyes app for itunes, Apple made a lot of changes to 
itunes 12 and made it a lot harder to use.


-Original Message- 
From: Vaughan Dodd

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:12 PM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

There is the Window-Eyes app, already pre-installed.  As I don't use it, I 
shouldn't comment on its usability, apart from observing that it might need 
to be fine tuned each time iTunes is updated.


Vaughan.



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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 2:19 a.m.
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

It seems like with every new release of itunes, it comes more and more less 
accessible.  I just wished someone would write a third party program to make 
it easy to transfer content to your ios device.


-Original Message-
From: Steve Clower
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:25 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; cr19951...@inbox.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on 
Windows send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of 
the problems you are encountering.


Regards,
Steve


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Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message-
From: crw9599 via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

 Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on 
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by 
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you what 
part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt key on the 
keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the either the left 
or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard and once you start 
doing that window eyes does say context menu it does open up in to the menu 
then once that happens then using the left or right arrow keys you are in 
the menus you just have to know where you are at to figure out what part of 
the menu bar you are at since the main part of the menu bar does not speak 
anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app has to be updated or something. Other 
then that I can still use it it is just a little bit tricky but it is 
due-able.



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Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-20 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
This is why, when Leef fixes the voiceover issue with the ibridge app, I'll 
be using a flash drive to transfer content to my ios devices.  I'll be glad 
to say good buy to itunes.


-Original Message- 
From: Smith, Veronica

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

That is why I am always leary about updating anything.  I always wait and 
wait till I see if others are having issues.   V


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From: Talk 
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Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:19 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

It seems like with every new release of itunes, it comes more and more less
accessible.  I just wished someone would write a third party program to make
it easy to transfer content to your ios device.

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Clower

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:25 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; cr19951...@inbox.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on
Windows send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of
the problems you are encountering.

Regards,
Steve


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On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:19 AM
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<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message- 
From: crw9599 via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

 Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-19 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
There is the Window-Eyes app, already pre-installed.  As I don't use it, I 
shouldn't comment on its usability, apart from observing that it might need to 
be fine tuned each time iTunes is updated.

Vaughan.



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From: Talk 
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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 2:19 a.m.
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

It seems like with every new release of itunes, it comes more and more less 
accessible.  I just wished someone would write a third party program to make it 
easy to transfer content to your ios device.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Clower
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:25 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; cr19951...@inbox.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on Windows 
send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of the 
problems you are encountering.

Regards,
Steve


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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:19 AM
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Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message-
From: crw9599 via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

  Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on Monday, 
have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by hitting the alt 
key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you what part of the menu 
bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt key on the keyboard then 
depending where you are at you have to use the either the left or right or the 
up or down arrow keys on the keyboard and once you start doing that window eyes 
does say context menu it does open up in to the menu then once that happens 
then using the left or right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to 
know where you are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since 
the main part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes 
app has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is 
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-19 Thread Edward Green via Talk
Hi Steve,

I thought you may like to know that some Apple accessibility advisers are 
advising people experiencing problems with 12.4 to switch to WE.

While it might be a nice plug, the accessibility of some of the list boxes is 
no better with WE, so new users may be turned off if they blame AI.

You might want a word with Apple so they don't set you up for a fall 
inadvertently.

Cheers,

Ed 

> On 19 May 2016, at 14:25, Steve Clower via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on 
> Windows send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of 
> the problems you are encountering.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:19 AM
> To: cr19951...@inbox.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes
> 
> ON another list, I see:
> accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: crw9599 via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes
> 
>  Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
> Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
> hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
> what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
> key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
> either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
> and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
> open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
> right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
> are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
> part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
> has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
> just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.
> 
> 
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RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-19 Thread Smith, Veronica via Talk
That is why I am always leary about updating anything.  I always wait and wait 
till I see if others are having issues.   V

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:19 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

It seems like with every new release of itunes, it comes more and more less 
accessible.  I just wished someone would write a third party program to make 
it easy to transfer content to your ios device.

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Clower
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:25 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; cr19951...@inbox.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on 
Windows send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of 
the problems you are encountering.

Regards,
Steve


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:19 AM
To: cr19951...@inbox.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message- 
From: crw9599 via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

  Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-19 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
It seems like with every new release of itunes, it comes more and more less 
accessible.  I just wished someone would write a third party program to make 
it easy to transfer content to your ios device.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve Clower

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:25 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; cr19951...@inbox.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on 
Windows send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of 
the problems you are encountering.


Regards,
Steve


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On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:19 AM
To: cr19951...@inbox.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>

Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message- 
From: crw9599 via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

 Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on Windows 
send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of the 
problems you are encountering.

Regards,
Steve


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Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message- 
From: crw9599 via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

  Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-19 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message- 
From: crw9599 via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

 Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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