[OSM-talk] Proposed_features/Road_crossings
I moved this "forgotten proposal" to the "proposed_features"-page, because it's very useful I think. -- mario ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
On 29/12/2007, Laurence Penney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, > > namely clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window > > containing a link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its > > description tag (if it has one). > I'd very much like to allow pop-up info windows on OSM for POIs that > are not Wikipedia articles - that's "not" as in "not yet" and "never > likely to be". > > But communities everywhere should have the ability to write in a > Wikipedia style about their own localities without such wrangles. > > I'd very much like to see a site devoted to connecting OSM point and > way IDs with wiki texts. Is there wider support for this idea? If I > set one up, will anyone use it? > > (One issue is that OSM IDs are not necessarily persistent. If someone > cleans up an area, the IDs are possibly different from before.) > > If OSM IDs really aren't suitable, then a site using POI names, naming > in a Wikipedia style, would still be very useful for similar stuff. no need to create a new site, this is exactly what wikimapia.org is for as far as i can see, there are no limits on 'importance' as there are on wikiepdia, so every little square, street, park, pub, supermarket, etc can have it's own page, and it already has huge amounts of data on hundreds of thousands of POIs it currently overlays it's data on to google map tiles, it would be nice if they were switched to OSM/OAM tiles ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
On Dec 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 28, 2007 8:14 PM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can you enlighten me--what is the tiling problem? > > Steve Radcliffe or "Computerteddy" may want to correct me on this, > since they know more than I do. > > There's a size limit for the garmin .img format, above which the areas > need to be broken down into smaller tiles. As far as I'm aware, mkgmap > doesn't do this for you. For a while, mkgmap could process the entire > planet within one tile, and then later the UK could still fit within > one tile, but those days are long gone. There was a technique using > non-free software that computerteddy was using to process the data, > but from his(?) wiki page* it seems there's a way around it now. > > However, the downloads that we have are generally woefully out of > date, and most of them are from before these size limits starting > biting. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download > > Basically, I can't take planet.osm, run mkgmap and transfer the > resultant .img file(s) to my GPS. This is what we should be aiming > for. What is needed is just a Simple Matter of Programming > (naturally), i.e. some developers and their time focussed on it. > > Cheers, > Andy > > * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy > (Crossposting to dev) Okay, that's no big deal. It's actually astounding to me that you put were able to the entire planet into a single img file... (obviously in pre-TIGER days). Anyway, I'm planning on writing a tiling task for Osmosis (probably not part of the Osmosis codebase, more likely a plugin-type thing if BrettH helps me facilitate that), so it could take a planet file and chunk it up into segments, probably individual osm files. Those files could then be processed by mkgmap. Garmin devices currently only support up to 2 GB MicroSD cards, but you're more likely to run into the limit of 2025 map segments first. We probably won't have the luxury of making the tiles uniform size, because obviously urban areas will have much more road density than rural areas. But if we were able to chunk it up into 4 degree square sections (obviously quite large near the equator), the planet could be covered in 4050 sections (360 x 180 / 16). Obviously, ocean areas will subtract a significant number from that. Anyway, once the tiles have been created, it's just a matter of scripting their processing by mkgmap. You might be able to do it all quickly with an ant build script or something similar. Karl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
On Dec 28, 2007 1:24 PM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time stamped > jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where would I get such > software that is free or worth paying for? Since JOSM can correlate photos with GPX files using the timestamps common to both, I would imagine it would take a relatively small amount of time (or beer-based persuasion) to make a plugin that writes the latlon into the photos' exif data. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
On Dec 28, 2007 8:14 PM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you enlighten me--what is the tiling problem? Steve Radcliffe or "Computerteddy" may want to correct me on this, since they know more than I do. There's a size limit for the garmin .img format, above which the areas need to be broken down into smaller tiles. As far as I'm aware, mkgmap doesn't do this for you. For a while, mkgmap could process the entire planet within one tile, and then later the UK could still fit within one tile, but those days are long gone. There was a technique using non-free software that computerteddy was using to process the data, but from his(?) wiki page* it seems there's a way around it now. However, the downloads that we have are generally woefully out of date, and most of them are from before these size limits starting biting. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download Basically, I can't take planet.osm, run mkgmap and transfer the resultant .img file(s) to my GPS. This is what we should be aiming for. What is needed is just a Simple Matter of Programming (naturally), i.e. some developers and their time focussed on it. Cheers, Andy * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
- Original Message From: Laurence Penney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 28 December, 2007 7:09:51 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements Nick Whitelegg wrote: >> Hello everyone, > >> A couple of ideas for enhancements on the OSM site - what do people >> think? If people think they're good ideas I'll try and find time to hack >> on them, though the next month might be a bit difficult. > >> One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, >> namely clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window >>containing a link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its >> description tag (if it has one). >Nice idea, but... >I'd very much like to allow pop-up info windows on OSM for POIs that >are not Wikipedia articles - that's "not" as in "not yet" and "never >likely to be". How about pubs? There is beerintheevening.com, but they don't seem to as yet offer an API - maybe we should do our own which could link to pub nodes easily? Nick ___ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
I do quite a bit of GeoTagging of Photos and having to sync the time every time I got out is annoying (the clock in the camera appears to be crap). So, once there is a suitable cheap gps capable camera I'll be going down this path. On Dec 29, 2007 8:35 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Getting your photos tagged directly in your camera is tricky. I heard > > that HP owns the patent for it, but I've seen a couple camera models > > out there that can do it (Ricoh 500SE for one). I think there are some > > other cameras that can work with external GPS receivers, maybe > > bluetooth. > > Years ago there was a series of consumer-level Kodak cameras that had > a serial port an were scriptable in a BASIC-like language, so you > could read NEMA GPS input live while the photo was taken ;-) > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > -- Franc ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
Hi, > Getting your photos tagged directly in your camera is tricky. I heard > that HP owns the patent for it, but I've seen a couple camera models > out there that can do it (Ricoh 500SE for one). I think there are some > other cameras that can work with external GPS receivers, maybe > bluetooth. Years ago there was a series of consumer-level Kodak cameras that had a serial port an were scriptable in a BASIC-like language, so you could read NEMA GPS input live while the photo was taken ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
I wondered about this when the topic first popped up. I've heard of many articles being removed from Wikipedia because they were not deemed significant enough to be part of the site. I'd think that if we're going to do popups of this nature (and I think it's a great idea), that the information needs to be under osm control to prevent issues with conflicting ideas on what's important and what's not. A link to a wiki seems like a good fit to me, as long as the wiki is devoted to the purpose of additional info on points on a map (osmplaces.org maybe?). Maybe a point can be created and tagged with some kind of new key, "moreinfo" or something like that. The value for the key could be a URL, that way it could point to the "official" osm wiki, or if wikipedia has an article on that item the URL could point there. Could the slippy map look for a tag like that and display the link? Another method could be a special osm wiki that returns info that's easily formatted for a sidebar that could open on the slippy map when one of these tags is clicked. Some kind of RSS-like feed maybe? I don't know if there's any wiki software with some kind of plugin that could be used "out of the box?" I'd love to help out with a project like this, once there's a general consensus on how it's supposed to work. -Jeremy Original Message --- Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A couple of ideas for enhancements on the OSM site - what do people > think? If people think they're good ideas I'll try and find time to hack > on them, though the next month might be a bit difficult. > > One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, > namely clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window > containing a link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its > description tag (if it has one). Nice idea, but... I'd very much like to allow pop-up info windows on OSM for POIs that are not Wikipedia articles - that's "not" as in "not yet" and "never likely to be". I created a Wikipedia article for Montagu Square[1] in London a few months ago, for the simple reason that I wanted to tag a photo with its Wikipedia URL. It's not a very interesting square, and the article was repeatedly nominated for speedy deletion by a 'pedian citing the notability criterion[2]. After tedious wrangles and the addition of a quote from Summerson, the page survives. But communities everywhere should have the ability to write in a Wikipedia style about their own localities without such wrangles. I'd very much like to see a site devoted to connecting OSM point and way IDs with wiki texts. Is there wider support for this idea? If I set one up, will anyone use it? (One issue is that OSM IDs are not necessarily persistent. If someone cleans up an area, the IDs are possibly different from before.) If OSM IDs really aren't suitable, then a site using POI names, naming in a Wikipedia style, would still be very useful for similar stuff. -- L [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montagu_Square [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability http://ragesossscholar.blogspot.com/2007/03/wikipedia-and-notability.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
On Dec 28, 2007 11:51 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 28, 2007 3:29 PM, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > A couple of ideas for enhancements on the OSM site - what do people think? > > If people think they're good ideas I'll try and find time to hack on them, > > though the next month might be a bit difficult. > > > > One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, namely > > clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window containing a > > link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its description tag (if it > > has one). > > > > The second (and I think this is already on the "todo" page) would be to make > > a web interface for creating Garmin maps, where a user could select an area > > and then a Garmin .img map of that area would be generated. I can see two > > ways of doing this - implement in JSP, grab OSM data through the API and > > link to existing mkgmap code, or (and much more work) reimplement mkgmap in > > Ruby to link with the rest of the site. > > Garmin maps are so ridiculously efficient at compression that the work > should first be put into overcoming the (current) tiling issues and > provide country- or planet-sized maps. These used to be available (and > easy to make myself each week) but haven't been for a few months now. > > Doing small-area maps may be useful too, but I would think a large > number of people like me have high-capacity garmin devices that can > take huge maps, and unless the tiling issue is overcome then the > small-areas that we can produce sans-tiling will get smaller and > smaller as the map's information density increases. > Can you enlighten me--what is the tiling problem? Karl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
On Dec 28, 2007 3:29 PM, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > A couple of ideas for enhancements on the OSM site - what do people think? > If people think they're good ideas I'll try and find time to hack on them, > though the next month might be a bit difficult. > > One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, namely > clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window containing a > link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its description tag (if it > has one). > > The second (and I think this is already on the "todo" page) would be to make > a web interface for creating Garmin maps, where a user could select an area > and then a Garmin .img map of that area would be generated. I can see two > ways of doing this - implement in JSP, grab OSM data through the API and > link to existing mkgmap code, or (and much more work) reimplement mkgmap in > Ruby to link with the rest of the site. Garmin maps are so ridiculously efficient at compression that the work should first be put into overcoming the (current) tiling issues and provide country- or planet-sized maps. These used to be available (and easy to make myself each week) but haven't been for a few months now. Doing small-area maps may be useful too, but I would think a large number of people like me have high-capacity garmin devices that can take huge maps, and unless the tiling issue is overcome then the small-areas that we can produce sans-tiling will get smaller and smaller as the map's information density increases. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A couple of ideas for enhancements on the OSM site - what do people > think? If people think they're good ideas I'll try and find time to hack > on them, though the next month might be a bit difficult. > > One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, > namely clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window > containing a link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its > description tag (if it has one). Nice idea, but... I'd very much like to allow pop-up info windows on OSM for POIs that are not Wikipedia articles - that's "not" as in "not yet" and "never likely to be". I created a Wikipedia article for Montagu Square[1] in London a few months ago, for the simple reason that I wanted to tag a photo with its Wikipedia URL. It's not a very interesting square, and the article was repeatedly nominated for speedy deletion by a 'pedian citing the notability criterion[2]. After tedious wrangles and the addition of a quote from Summerson, the page survives. But communities everywhere should have the ability to write in a Wikipedia style about their own localities without such wrangles. I'd very much like to see a site devoted to connecting OSM point and way IDs with wiki texts. Is there wider support for this idea? If I set one up, will anyone use it? (One issue is that OSM IDs are not necessarily persistent. If someone cleans up an area, the IDs are possibly different from before.) If OSM IDs really aren't suitable, then a site using POI names, naming in a Wikipedia style, would still be very useful for similar stuff. -- L [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montagu_Square [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability http://ragesossscholar.blogspot.com/2007/03/wikipedia-and-notability.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Freemap enhancements
A few Freemap enhancements I've made over the past few days, mentioned on the blog but not on the OSM lists yet: - SRTM contours now cover most of Scotland as well as England and Wales; this is possible as my hosting provider have increased the available disc space. - Stronger links to Wikipedia - you can now click on a POI and link to its Wikipedia article. This will use the "wikipedia" tag from OSM if available, if not, it will guess based on the name of the POI. If the latter is the case, the user is given the opportunity to specify the real Wikipedia article name. - Footpath descriptions (muddy, steep etc) now link to the "description" tag on OSM rather than a local description database on Freemap. Similarly, the description tag on POIs is now displayed. Nick __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
Gregory schrieb: > I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What > would be really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged > with their lat/lon, but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this easily. > > Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive and > have something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever? (or > have a built in reciever?) > Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time > stamped jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where > would I get such software that is free or worth paying for? regarding software sollutions of combining GPS tracks and photographs see the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Geotagging_Source_Photos Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
At 04:29 PM 28/12/2007, Nick Whitelegg wrote: >Hello everyone, > >A couple of ideas for enhancements on the OSM site - what do people think? If >people think they're good ideas I'll try and find time to hack on them, though >the next month might be a bit difficult. > >One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, namely >clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window containing a >link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its description tag (if it >has one). > >The second (and I think this is already on the "todo" page) would be to make a >web interface for creating Garmin maps, where a user could select an area and >then a Garmin .img map of that area would be generated. I can see two ways of >doing this - implement in JSP, grab OSM data through the API and link to >existing mkgmap code, or (and much more work) reimplement mkgmap in Ruby to >link with the rest of the site. To put that question, "So why not just use Google map?" to bed, this would be absolutely number one of my list. Mike Stockholm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
At 02:24 PM 28/12/2007, Gregory wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What would be >really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged with their lat/lon, >but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this easily. > >Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive and have >something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever? (or have a built in >reciever?) >Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time stamped >jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where would I get such >software that is free or worth paying for? I've gone the software route as other have commented but looked at hardware too. As I recall, some of the Nikon SLRs (i.e. not the low end!) had a GPS option as did one of the Fuji range, the S2? There was also device that sat in a the external flash shoe that some cameras have - an overkill for just GPS but allowed recording not only of position but where the camera was pointing. The HP iPaq HW6965 PDA also takes gps-stamped photos but the quality and time it takes to take the photo and store it makes in impractical for more than occassional OSM use. The software route means you can buy the best camera you can afford as camera and likewise for the GPS device. The downside is it does add a bit of a chore to process the photos each time and you have to be a bit anal of tracking any camera clock drift if you want to do things like record the position of a road junction or pub while passing in a car or bus. I keep my PC synced to atomic time using a time server and then periodically take pictures of the PC clock screen using the camera. BTW, for OSM use, I recommend a pocket-size lower end digital camera (taking lots of pictures quickly is more useful than high resolution) but with a optical (not digital) 3x or higher zoom so that you can take pictures of street signs on the other side of the road. I use Nikon Coolpix L4 point-and-shoot and am very happy with it. There was also a Canon with a similar spec, but it was over a year ago. Mike ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
On Friday 28 December 2007 15:29:05 Nick Whitelegg wrote: > One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, > namely clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window > containing a link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its > description tag (if it has one). Yes, great. Also show the name tag, since many don't render especially at lower zoom levels, and the other rich metadata that some people are adding in (e.g. parking spaces & cost, phone numbers for restaurants, etc.) Kind regards, Tom ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
I agree with not buying any specific hardware. So long as you have a GPS setup that can generate a GPX file you should be fine. I use gpsPhoto.pl and have occasionally used http://gpstagr.jianing.net/ for geotagging my flickr photos. John On 28 Dec 2007, at 15:37, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: There are lot of options. Just a couple of hours ago I read about a GPS receiver/recorder where you can plug in a storage card and it annotates all the contained photos with the GPS coordinates matching the timestamp. Nevertheless I don't see the reason for buying special hardware - the same timestamp matching is performed by a number of free software around, you just need a GPS recorded that produces data with a well-known format. On Dec 28, 2007, at 14:24 , Gregory wrote: Hi all, I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What would be really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged with their lat/lon, but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this easily. Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive and have something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever? (or have a built in reciever?) Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time stamped jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where would I get such software that is free or worth paying for? -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
There are lot of options. Just a couple of hours ago I read about a GPS receiver/recorder where you can plug in a storage card and it annotates all the contained photos with the GPS coordinates matching the timestamp. Nevertheless I don't see the reason for buying special hardware - the same timestamp matching is performed by a number of free software around, you just need a GPS recorded that produces data with a well- known format. On Dec 28, 2007, at 14:24 , Gregory wrote: Hi all, I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What would be really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged with their lat/lon, but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this easily. Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive and have something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever? (or have a built in reciever?) Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time stamped jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where would I get such software that is free or worth paying for? -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Ideas for OSM enhancements
Hello everyone, A couple of ideas for enhancements on the OSM site - what do people think? If people think they're good ideas I'll try and find time to hack on them, though the next month might be a bit difficult. One would be to do something similar to what I already do on Freemap, namely clickable POIs: The user could click on a POI then get a window containing a link to its Wikipedia article (if applicable) and its description tag (if it has one). The second (and I think this is already on the "todo" page) would be to make a web interface for creating Garmin maps, where a user could select an area and then a Garmin .img map of that area would be generated. I can see two ways of doing this - implement in JSP, grab OSM data through the API and link to existing mkgmap code, or (and much more work) reimplement mkgmap in Ruby to link with the rest of the site. Nick __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] srtm2shp - Shapefiles from SRTM contours - new version
Hello everyone, There is now a new version of the srtm2shp utility which generates shapefiles of SRTM contours in the OSM SVN repository (under utils/srtm2shp). It only has one dependency - shapelib. This version should work anywhere across the world, in contrast to earlier versions which were a bit of a mess and only worked in the UK. So if you're interested in creating a Freemap-like site for your own country, this is a good place to start. Main todo is dealing with SRTM voids in mountainous areas. Nick __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
On Dec 28, 2007 5:24 AM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What would be > really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged with their > lat/lon, but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this easily. > > Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive and have > something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever? (or have a built > in reciever?) > Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time stamped > jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where would I get such > software that is free or worth paying for? Getting your photos tagged directly in your camera is tricky. I heard that HP owns the patent for it, but I've seen a couple camera models out there that can do it (Ricoh 500SE for one). I think there are some other cameras that can work with external GPS receivers, maybe bluetooth. However, if it were me, I would focus on getting the best camera first, and use software later to sync up the pictures. I've heard good things about gPicSync (free software). Karl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] agriculture=yes/no and emergency=yes/no?
On Dec 27, 2007 10:09 PM, Mario Salvini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calum Polwart schrieb: > > > On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 10:23 +0100, Frédéric Bonifas wrote: > > > >> This is not a problem for emergency vehicules but for heavy vehicules > >> and the proper tags would be maxweight= or maxwidth=. If this road is > >> tagged with emergency=no, what will we say to the guy cycling this : > >> http://michka.blog50.com/images/medium_italie_pompier_italier_1903.jpg > >> ?! > >> > >> Frédéric > >> > >> 2007/12/25, Alex S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > I cannot imagine a situation where I would tag "emergency=no"... > > > I've been lurking for a while so its time a chipin here's a couple of > > examples: > > > > Some examples of where Emergency=yes might be appropriate (does yes = > > only??): > > Roads at major locations (airports, stadia etc) where 'normal' vehicles > > can not access but emergency vehicles can. These will often shortcut > > significant distances to an ERV > > (Link to type of signpost in UK: > > http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2002/023113ew.gif ) > > > > Some small streets etc may have a specifically marked route called a > > 'firepath'. Think of a street like a crescent the firepath is in the > > middle of the crescent separating the two ends. Its illegal to use the > > firepath normally but fire engines can use it to improve access --> > > (Picture: > > http://www.andypreece.co.uk/cycling/images/barfillan_drive.jpg )(would > > be cycle=no; vehicle=no; emergency=yes) This restriction is kind of > > shown on streetmap.co.uk > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newsearch.srf?x=254250&y=664250&z=1&ar=Y&isp=200&ism=500&searchp=newsearch.srf&mapp=newmap.srf&ax=254125&ay=664435 > > > > But not on > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|G52%201BE#t=l&map=55.84928,-4.33172|17|4&loc=GB:55.85098:-4.33172:15|G52%201BE|G52%201BE > > While on 'our maps' its shown too well! > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.85022&lon=-4.32831&zoom=16&layers=B0F > > If you are a fire engine coming along Paisley Road West from the West > > (which as it happens is where you'd come from!) you have to go all the > > way to Jura Street to loop back - according to our map... Paisley Road > > West flows at about 2MPH during the day (5MPh if you are a big red > > truck with flashing lights!! so the time may well matter...) > > BUT > exactly for such *highways* we need a "emergency=yes" :) > > Example of emergency=No: > > there could be similar streets where the path is physically blocked > > because there is an acceptable route for emergency vehicles. (whereas > > this picture > > http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/cycle/difficult-barrier2-thumb.jpg would be > > cycle=yes, vehicle=no, emergency=no) > a node with "highway=bollard" would be all you need here, IMO. But maybe > you find a better one here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/barriers. > > There is not really a need, for "emergyncy=no", but thre is all the more > for "emergency=yes" or "emergency=designated". > > regards, > mario I think having the explicit "emergency=no" tag would be clearer in that case. Otherwise, routers will have to look for every kind of barrier and infer if it's passable for emergency vehicles. Plus, if the bollard is not tagged on a node that is part of the way, then routers will not know that the bollard is supposed to be blocking the way. Some bollards are removable for emergency access, too. Karl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
> Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time stamped > jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where would I get such > software that is free or worth paying for? You can use a software-only solution, just sync the camera clock with the GPS as close as possible. I keep my camera on UTC to avoid daylight saving time headaches. Then save all the photos in a folder, export the track as a GPX file and use the Digikam program with the kipi-plugins. Digikam is included with many GNU/Linux distributions based on KDE, may be also a live CD can have it. Look at this tutorial with screenshots: http://linuxappfinder.com/blog/add_gps_coordinates_to_your_photos -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
Gregory wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What > would be really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged > with their lat/lon, but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this easily. > > Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive and > have something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever? (or > have a built in reciever?) > Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time > stamped jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where > would I get such software that is free or worth paying for? I use gpscorrelate to tag my photos. It takes a gpx file and a bunch of jpeg files on the command line and does its stuff. I expect there are numerous other Free or free options. -- Chris Jones, SUCS Admin http://sucs.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?
Hi all, I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What would be really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged with their lat/lon, but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this easily. Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive and have something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever? (or have a built in reciever?) Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of time stamped jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file? Where would I get such software that is free or worth paying for? -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] waterway=dam and waterway=weir proposals open for voting
The tags waterway=dam (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dam) waterway=weir (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Weir) are now open for voting. Thanks, Brent. Brent Easton Analyst/Programmer University of Western Sydney Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] tag place=locality approved
The tag place=locality (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Locality) has completed the voting process and been approved. I have updated Osmarender to render the names of place=locality the same size as place=hamlet. Could someone with mapnik skills please do the same for Mapnik? Thanks, Brent. Brent Easton Analyst/Programmer University of Western Sydney Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
