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2008-03-15 Thread Miklos Szeredi
Hi,

I cannot find any info about licensing of file under

 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/rendering/mapnik

I'd like to use this to render maps for the turistautak.hu community
built map, which is a free, but only non-commercial use is allowed (so
unfortunately not currently compatible with CC-BY-SA, although I'm
trying to convince them, that exchanging data would be good for both
sides).

I've already checked, that licensing of Mapnik itself and OpenLayers
is OK.  I very much hope, that there won't be any problem with using
osm.xml and generate_tiles.py for this purpose.

Thanks,
Miklos

BTW, here's a sample output, in case anyone is interested:

 
http://szmi28.extra.hu/slippymap.html?zoom=15lat=6024356.97847lon=2118850.37387layers=B0

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[OSM-legal-talk] license of osm.xml?

2008-03-15 Thread Miklos Szeredi
Sorry about the garbled subject on the previous post.

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Miklos Szeredi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

  I cannot find any info about licensing of file under

   http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/rendering/mapnik

  I'd like to use this to render maps for the turistautak.hu community
  built map, which is a free, but only non-commercial use is allowed (so
  unfortunately not currently compatible with CC-BY-SA, although I'm
  trying to convince them, that exchanging data would be good for both
  sides).

  I've already checked, that licensing of Mapnik itself and OpenLayers
  is OK.  I very much hope, that there won't be any problem with using
  osm.xml and generate_tiles.py for this purpose.

  Thanks,
  Miklos

  BTW, here's a sample output, in case anyone is interested:

   
 http://szmi28.extra.hu/slippymap.html?zoom=15lat=6024356.97847lon=2118850.37387layers=B0


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[OSM-talk] josm enhancement remove/identify near nodes

2008-03-15 Thread maning sambale
Hi,

Maybe a possible josm enhancement is identifying nodes from a
specified radius.  If my understanding is right the error plugin
identifies duplicate nodes if they have the exact location.  But I
oftentimes encounter nodes (partly due to my editing) that almost
overlap but not exactly in the same location.  Maybe setting a radius
from a given node or set of nodes by a few meter or less can help
correct these errors.

cheers,

maning

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Re: [OSM-talk] highway=living_street not rendered?

2008-03-15 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 15, 2008, at 05:04, Inge Wallin wrote:
 I am a very new user that has started to map up the village in  
 Sweden where I
 live.  However, I have found something strange.

 Look at the slippy map, and search for Ljungsbro.  Notice the to  
 streets
 Kohagsvägen and Ugglebovägen southeast of the center. Then press  
 the 'edit'.
 What you will see is that there are two small stumps of streets  
 with tags
 highway=living_street. But they are not rendered in the real map,  
 neither
 with Mapnik, nor with Osmarender.

 Is this a bug or am I missing something?

I just filed bug reports against Mapnik and Osmarender yesterday  
(tickets 740, 741). It seems this was forgotten when the tag was  
moved to Map features.

Cheers
Robert



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Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi returns old data

2008-03-15 Thread 80n
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:43 AM, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Jon Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 00:30 +, 80n wrote:
   Lars
   Thanks for this info, its been very useful.
  
   Some edits, that were made during the period when the incremental
   feeds were down, have not been resynchronized correctly.
  
   The problem is due to a difference in the timestamp format between the
   planet dump and the incremental feeds.
  
   I'll fix the resync script and re-run it.
  
   80n
 
  I thought they both used the same format:-
 
  $ gzip -dc /home/www/tile/direct/planet/planet-080312.osm.gz | grep
  timestamp | head -n 3
   node id=2 lat=50.1360074 lon=8.3023717
  timestamp=2007-10-04T18:28:37Z
   node id=4 lat=51.5220733 lon=-0.1458135
  timestamp=2007-01-29T08:48:14Z/
   node id=11 lat=4.0840331 lon=73.5129514
  timestamp=2006-11-04T18:15:03Z
 
  $ bzip2 -dc daily-20080307-20080308.osc.bz2 | grep timestamp | head -n 3
 node id=122329 timestamp=2008-03-07T07:33:53Z user=mbuege
  lat=53.5374636 lon=10.0309499/
 node id=122330 timestamp=2008-03-07T07:43:48Z user=mbuege
  lat=53.5369426 lon=10.0339214/
 node id=122331 timestamp=2008-03-07T07:27:15Z user=mbuege
  lat=53.5389492 lon=10.0325114/
 
  I can see the order of the attributes is different and the diffs contain
  the user, but the timestamp looks the same format to me. Or do you mean
  the timestamp in the filename?
 

 Yeah, the problem is that there _used_ to be a difference, but now there
 isn't.  My script was expecting them to be different.


On further inspection, what I said above is complete rubbish.  The timestamp
format difference is between the the planet dump and the API not Osmosis:

Planet dump:
 node id=2 lat=50.1360074 lon=8.3023717
timestamp=2007-10-04T18:28:37Z

API:
node id=2 lat=50.1360074 lon=8.3023717
timestamp=2007-10-04T19:28:37+01:00

My code, which is pants, wrongly assumes that Osmosis was using a timestamp
like the API produces, when in fact its the same as the planet dump.

Maybe I'll be able to fix it properly now I know what I'm talking about.

80n









 
 Jon
 
 
 

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Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi returns old data

2008-03-15 Thread Jon Burgess

On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 07:31 +, 80n wrote:


 On further inspection, what I said above is complete rubbish.  The
 timestamp format difference is between the the planet dump and the API
 not Osmosis:
 
 Planet dump:
  node id=2 lat=50.1360074 lon=8.3023717
 timestamp=2007-10-04T18:28:37Z
 
 API:
 node id=2 lat=50.1360074 lon=8.3023717
 timestamp=2007-10-04T19:28:37+01:00
 
 My code, which is pants, wrongly assumes that Osmosis was using a
 timestamp like the API produces, when in fact its the same as the
 planet dump.
 
 Maybe I'll be able to fix it properly now I know what I'm talking
 about.

The timestamps in the planet dumps did match the API until a few months
ago. Brett and I agreed to converge on a common timestamp format since
the generic Java date parsing was horribly slow. 

I suppose we could change the API to use this same format if it would
help other tools.

Jon



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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] GPX Import failure]

2008-03-15 Thread Paul Hurley
I've had a few GPC import failures recently, but the email with the 
error seems to be an error in the code.  When I resubmit the gpx files 
they usually import fine.


Any ideas ?

Thanks

Paul.

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---BeginMessage---
Hi,

It looks like your GPX file

  20080314_1629_alnwick_felton_widdrington_2.gpx

failed to import. Here's the error:

  Bad file descriptor - /usr/bin/file -bz /home/osm/gpx/84186.gpx
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/core_ext/kernel/agnostics.rb:7:in
 ``'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/core_ext/kernel/agnostics.rb:7:in
 ``'
/var/www/rails/app/models/trace.rb:141:in `xml_file'
/var/www/rails/app/models/trace.rb:177:in `import'
/var/www/rails/lib/daemons/gpx_import.rb:21
/var/www/rails/lib/daemons/gpx_import.rb:15
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/application.rb:159:in 
`start_load'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/application.rb:236:in 
`start'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/monitor.rb:51:in `watch'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/monitor.rb:51:in `watch'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/monitor.rb:45:in `watch'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/monitor.rb:44:in `watch'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/monitor.rb:84:in 
`start_with_pidfile'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/monitor.rb:64:in 
`start_with_pidfile'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/monitor.rb:111:in `start'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/application_group.rb:111:in
 `create_monitor'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/application.rb:223:in 
`start'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/controller.rb:69:in `run'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons.rb:136:in `run'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons/cmdline.rb:105:in 
`catch_exceptions'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/daemons-1.0.9/lib/daemons.rb:135:in `run'
lib/daemons/gpx_import_ctl:20

More information about GPX import failures and how to avoid
them can be found at:

  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/GPX_Import_Failures

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Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline checker

2008-03-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In firefox, the coastline checker at
  http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html is giving an XML error:
snip
  Also, according to
  http://hypercube.telascience.org/~kleptog/last_update.txt it hasn't been
  updated for nearly 2 weeks.

Sorry, it was a combination of several factors:
- The daily diffs being broken for a while
- The number of nodes exceeding 250 million
- Someone changing the DOCTYPE on the HTML file
- And me not noticing till today there was a problem

It's currently regenerating so some time this afternoon it should
finally catch up...

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Re: [OSM-talk] User stats desperately wanted

2008-03-15 Thread Andy Robinson
On 15/03/2008, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

whenever I make a presentation about OSM, I tell them about our
  exponential growth. I used to show them this

  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/c/c7/Osmdbstats4A.png

  but that's stopped in July last year, so I have no current picture
  about the growth of our user base.

  The page

  http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html

  has a section Number of users editing over the past Day/Week/ Month
  and it would be trivial to make a nice chart from this if only I had
  run a wget on that page for the last year, which I haven't. Has
  anybody by chance done this and can provide me with data, either raw or
  cooked? Or is anybody else keeping track of the numbers in any way?

Frederik,

I have a copy of every stats page for every day since I last did an
update. I'll work on getting the basic edit stats updated in the next
couple of weeks. As always its a time thing, but I have a presentation
myself on 26th so I need the figures too.



  Also, I am often asked about the size of the community in Germany.
  What I usually did is take the world-wide figures, compare the size of
  germany.osm to planet.osm and adjust the figures accordingly. But with
  the huge amount of TIGER data this gets a bit distorted. Any ideas?

Yes, I have the edit figures for dhansen from the daily log. We just
need to extract his numbers from the total and we will have a rough
idea of what the split is.

Cheers

Andy


  Bye
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Re: [OSM-talk] User stats desperately wanted

2008-03-15 Thread Tom Higgy
http://osm.bandnet.org/osm_stats/pngs/month-latest.png

Blue line...

I never really did anything useful with this. Also missing some when I 
gave up leaving my computer on.

Frederik Ramm wrote:
 Hi,
 
whenever I make a presentation about OSM, I tell them about our
 exponential growth. I used to show them this
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/c/c7/Osmdbstats4A.png
 
 but that's stopped in July last year, so I have no current picture
 about the growth of our user base.
 
 The page
 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html
 
 has a section Number of users editing over the past Day/Week/ Month
 and it would be trivial to make a nice chart from this if only I had
 run a wget on that page for the last year, which I haven't. Has
 anybody by chance done this and can provide me with data, either raw or
 cooked? Or is anybody else keeping track of the numbers in any way?
 
 Also, I am often asked about the size of the community in Germany.
 What I usually did is take the world-wide figures, compare the size of
 germany.osm to planet.osm and adjust the figures accordingly. But with 
 the huge amount of TIGER data this gets a bit distorted. Any ideas?
 
 Bye
 Frederik
  


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Re: [OSM-talk] User stats desperately wanted

2008-03-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

 http://osm.bandnet.org/osm_stats/pngs/month-latest.png

 Blue line...

So we're not *that* exponential then ;-) thanks.

Bye
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Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen

2008-03-15 Thread Gernot Hillier
Hi!

Christoph Eckert schrieb:
 Bitte nichts neues erfinden! An anderen Stellen werden als Trenner bei
 OSM Semikolons verwendet:
 
 Strichpunkte würde ich meiden. Die machen nämlich, zumindest auf Nodes 
 angewendet, potentiell Probleme in der Datenbank.

Ein bischen genauer, bitte. *Wie* angewandt machen sie Probleme?

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Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen

2008-03-15 Thread Christoph Eckert
Moin,

  Strichpunkte würde ich meiden. Die machen nämlich, zumindest auf Nodes
  angewendet, potentiell Probleme in der Datenbank.

 Ein bischen genauer, bitte. *Wie* angewandt machen sie Probleme?

nachdem ich keinen Datenbankzugriff habe kann ich genaueres nicht sagen.

Soweit ich mich erinnere ist es so dass bei Nodes die einzelnen Tags allesamt 
in ein Feld in der Datenbank marschieren - getrennt durch Strichpunkte. Falls 
das so stimmt, würde aus sowas wie
key=value1;value2
hinterher sowas wie
key=value1
value2

Gut sehen kann man das bei Jugendherbergen, die *vermutlich* mit Strichpunkten 
in den Namenswerten eingelesen wurden. Unter
http://christeck.de/POIs/
finden sich POIs für Deutschland. Auspacken und mit 
Josm ./gpx/Hostel/Hostel.gpx öffnen. 

Beste Grüße,

ce


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Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen

2008-03-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo,

 Soweit ich mich erinnere ist es so dass bei Nodes die einzelnen Tags allesamt 
 in ein Feld in der Datenbank marschieren - getrennt durch Strichpunkte. 

Das stimmt. Das ist nur bei Nodes so, die haben keine eigene Tabelle
fuer Tags. Eine Aenderung ist geplant, aber noch nicht umgesetzt.

Bye
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Re: [Talk-GB] Manchester

2008-03-15 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:57:55AM +, SteveC wrote:
 Any OSMers around Manchester up for a pint tonight?

Oh, I wish I’d caught up on my mail sooner.  Oh well. :/

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