Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?

2015-08-12 Thread Alessandro Chiostri
Una linea ferroviaria può avere anche un solo binario (p.e. la Porrettana
oppure la Fortezza-Dobbiaco)

Ma non è solo questo a determinare la differenza tra stazione e fermata.

Se ci sono scambi in stazione (binario morto o )immediatamente prima e dopo
(precedenze)

questi devono essere mantenuti (costi) , segnalati (costi) e operati dal
personale di stazione (costi ) .

In una politica di risparmio, tutto viene tagliato semplificando al massimo:

il binario diventa singolo (impossibili le precedenze tra treni opposti)
per km prima e dopo il marciapiede,

il convoglio debe solo arrivare, fermarsi, ripartire come un tram.

La stazione viene degradata a fermata.

Prendete ad esempio tutte le intermedie tra Pistoia e Pracchia, dove gli
altri binari esistono ancora ma non solo collegati alla linea da scambi,

il fabbricato viaggiatori  è vuoto, niente biglietteria, niente posto di
manovra.

Anche su linee a doppio binario si può parlare di fermata:

ad esempio Castiglioncello sulla tirrenica non è presidiata,

non si sono scambi per chilometri prima e dopo,

anichè doppio binario diventano due binari singoli a senso unico.

Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:30, Elena ``of Valhalla'' 
elena.valha...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 On 2015-08-12 at 07:16:05 +, Luca Moiana wrote:
  curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che
 alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway
 halt. Che differenza c'è?
  Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello
 stato, mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali.

 ferrovie locali? dici le nord? (ormai i treni che circolano lì e sulle
 linee regionali dello stato sono gli stessi)

 tra malnate e laveno le nord hanno un binario solo; se non ricordo male
 molte stazioni intermedie hanno anche loro un solo binario, e quindi
 la cosa corrisponderebbe con quanto scritto nell'altra mail (switch è
 lo scambio, vero?)

 non ricordo quali, oltre ovviamente a Varese dovrebbero esserci più
 binari a Gavirate, ma per le altre dovrei andare apposta a controllare.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] (osm: message 1 of 20) licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)

2015-08-12 Thread osm . sanspourriel
@Frdric : cest parce que je ne vois pas systmatiquement les infos comme ICAO/IATA sur les aroports que jai cherch une source.

Si il y a eu un import il y a eu des rats ou des personnes ont cass aprs.

@Pierre : pas mal de sources globales ne sont plus accessibles, cest la raison dtre de ourAirports, et la raison de pas mal de liens casss sur Wikipedia. Jai effectivement vu le genre dinfos que tu indiques, mais pas dans un format exploitable facilement.

Pour lident : niet, enfin si mais comme tu le dis pas pour les hliports. Doit-on mettre leur rfrence dans OSM et comment du coup ?



Jean-Yvon




Gesendet:Mittwoch, 12. August 2015 um 16:07 Uhr
Von:dHuy Pierre - dh...@yahoo.fr osm.sanspourriel.57243696c9.dhuyp#yahoo...@ob.0sg.net
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@osmsanspourriel: le code ident correspond pour les aroports  la rfrence ICAO: par exemple L reprsente lEurope de lOuest, le LF recouvre tous les aroports de France Mtropolitaine. LFP pour lle de France...

Une autre norme internationnale est IATA. Les deux sont supports dans la doc sur osmwiki.

Juste en passant avec mes 5 cents  moi, il existe des bases compltes fournies par les aroports et libre daccs  tous avec toutes les pistes, les hangars, les zones militaires... On appelle a le chart de laroport. Y figure: coordonnes prcises, couloir dapproche, service disponible, plan dtaill... etc








Le Mercredi 12 aot 2015 10h00, Frdric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com a crit :


OurAirports  dj tait import.

My 2 cents.


Le 12/08/2015 00:06, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a crit :
 Bonjour, on va simplifier :
 alors que le titre semblait indiquer que ourairports tait
 amricano-amricain, il est en fait mondial et en donnes verses au
 domaine public.
 Jai fait un comparatif qui semble parler de lui-mme :


  OurAirports  OpenFlights
 License  *public domain* souhaitent mais nexigent pas dtre cits
  OBdL/commercial
 Entres  *46 516*  8 107
 Position  lat, lon, ele  lat, lon, ele (en pieds)
 latitude  latitude_deg  lat
 longitude  longitude_deg  lon
 altitude  elevation_ft  ele_ft

 
 
 *Type*  ballonport
 heliport
 seaplane_base

 small_airport
 medium_airport
 large_airport

 closed  -

 
 
 Dnomination 
 
 name:en  name 
 localit  couple ville principale/commune du site
 quelques vides  city= ville principale
 name=commune locale ou lieu-dit
 continent  oui  -
 pays  iso_country  country
 tat/rgion  iso_region  -

 
 
 Rfrence 
 
 3 alpha (iata)  iata_code  iata
 4 alpha (icao)  gps_code  icao
 4-7 alpha  ident 
 code local/nationalde laroport  local_code 

 
 
 wikipedia:en  *wikipedia_link* 
 website  *home_link* 

 
 
 Divers 
 
 scheduled_service  indique si les vols sont prprogramms  -
 fuseau horaire  -  oui, mais heure dt sujette  caution dans certains
 tats


 Voici ce que a donne sur un degr carr :

 OpenFlightID  Name  City  Country  iata  icao  Lat  Lon  AltitudeFt
 Timezone  DSTtype  TimezoneName
 1403  Guipavas  Brest  France  BES  LFRB  48,447911  -4,418539
 325  1  E  Europe/Paris
 1411  Landivisiau  Landivisiau  France 
  LFRJ  48,530258  -4,151642  348  1  E  Europe/Paris
 1413  Poulmic  Lanvedoc  France 
  LFRL  48,281703  -4,445017  287  1  E  Europe/Paris


 Aucun hliport, une erreur dans le nom dune ville (Lanvoc),
 localisation moins prcise que ci-dessous.

 ident  type  name  latitude_deg  longitude_deg  elevation_ft
 continent  iso_country  iso_region  municipality  scheduled_service
 gps_code  iata_code  local_code  home_link  wikipedia_link  keywords
 FR-0046  heliport  Amiraut Heliport  48,3805542  -4,49166679  8  EU
 FR  FR-E  Brest  no 
 
 
 
 
 
 FR-0053  heliport  La Cavale Blanche Centre Hospitalier Heliport
 48,40353012  -4,52956676  121  EU  FR  FR-E  Brest  no 
 
 
 
 
 
 *LFRB*  *medium_airport*  *Brest Bretagne Airport*  *48,44789886*
 *-4,41854*  *325*  *EU*  *FR*  *FR-E*  *Brest/Guipavas*  *yes*  *LFRB*
 *BES*  *
 *  *
 *  *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest_Bretagne_Airport*
 *LFRJ*  *medium_airport*  *Landivisiau Air Base*  *48,53030014*
 *-4,15163994*  *348*  *EU*  *FR*  *FR-E*  *Landivisiau*  *no*  *LFRJ*
 *LDV*  *
 *  *
 *  *
 *  *
 *
 *LFRL*  *medium_airport*  *Lanvoc-Poulmic Air Base*  *48,28170013*
 *-4,4450202*  *287*  *EU*  *FR*  *FR-E*  *Lanvoc/Poulmic*  *no*  *LFRL*  *
 *  *
 *  *
 *  *
 *  *
 *

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 Sachant que OpenStreeMap trouve 6 hliports.

 Se pose la question de la meilleure faon de rapprocher les donnes.
 Est-ce que vous savez  quoi ident correspondrait sur OpenStreeMap ? a
 ressemble  une rfrence internationale.

 Jean-Yvon


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Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM

2015-08-12 Thread Jorge Juan
Hola Guillermo. ¡Bienvenido!

¿Podrías poner un ejemplo concreto que no puedas solucionar con la
documentación que ya hay en [1]?

Quizá lo más oficial que hay al etiquetar una carretera es el código de la
misma, que en OSM se pone con ref=... como en ref=N-120.

Por otro lado, si la carretera tiene un nombre oficial, debe estar
publicado en algun sitio. En [2] tienes algunas referencias donde se
publican nombres oficiales. Este sería el nombre a poner con la etiqueta
name=

De forma más general, en [3] tienes como indicar nombres alternativos y
traducciones a otros idiomas, con etiquetas como name:fr=..., name_1,
name_2, etc. o alt_name [4].

También está official_name, pero sospecho que esta etiqueta no está tan
extendida como name. Yo, por ejemplo, usaría name para poner el nombre
oficial, siempre que este nombre sea conocido y de uso común, y sólo usaría
official_name para el nombre oficial y name para el nombre común en
caso de que el nombre oficial sea totalmente desconocido y el común sea
extremadamente común.

Supongo que con estas etiquetas tienes bastantes opciones sin tener que
inventar ninguna más. A estas alturas del proyecto OSM el problema no suele
ser que falten etiquetas, sino que hay múltiples formas de hacer
etiquetados válidos con las etiquetas existentes.

En cualquier caso, algunas reglas básicas son: usa el sentido común (esta
es tan bonita como inutil), etiqueta de forma uniforme con el entorno, lee
mucha documentación.

Un saludo.

[1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Normalizaci%C3%B3n#V.C3.ADas_interurbanas
[2]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Normalizaci%C3%B3n#Clasificaci.C3.B3n_seg.C3.BAn_la_Comunidad_Aut.C3.B3noma
[3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name
[4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:alt_name

El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:16, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez 
ludovic...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola
 Lo que estoy viendo es que existen carreteras en las que la denominación
 oficial es diferente a la que te puedas encontrar en los carteles de las
 carreteras-señales de puntos kilométricos,
 y por eso me preguntaba si se podría crear un tag para poner la
 denominación oficial sin que esto supusiera un engorro para el resto de
 usuarios
 Un saludo

 El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:08, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com
  escribió:

 Hola.

 Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que
 debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de
 aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando.
 Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También
 puede que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y
 de nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque
 sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos
 introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego
 tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble.

 Un saludo
 El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez 
 ludovic...@gmail.com escribió:

 Buenos días a todos
 Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más
 o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta
 surgiendo una duda con los tags

- Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es:
carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria...
- Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las
características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera.

 Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo
 grupo, el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría
 comunicarlo al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo
 nivel ya no requiere la aprobación de los mismos

 Un saludo
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Re: [Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH

2015-08-12 Thread James
Check out:
http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD
It's their open data portal which also includes the building address
shapefile(not sure how accurate this is, I know Ottawa's has about 30%
errors (overlapping duplicate nodes, misplaced nodes))
Address shape file(can be open in JOSM with opendata plugin):
http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=91415f9cd70bb210VgnVCM103dd60f89RCRDvgnextchannel=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD

But in the data portal there's all sort of information, paths, etc

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:34 AM, George Silva georger.si...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to improve
 the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded effort.

 I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a foreigner
 and not being on Toronto.

 The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area.

 More details, please contact Darren Jones, at
 dar...@crosspathsolutions.com

 Thanks

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 http://www.sigmageosistemas.com.br/

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Marcello
Io conto di partecipare, a meno di impegni imprevisti e non prorogabili.
Ho visto che è previsto anche un evento serale , riguardando il thread
non mi sembra di aver visto nulla, di cosa si tratta?

Per quanto riguarda gli argomenti da trattare ho visto che un argomento
inserito nel programma era lo 'stato della mappa', siccome avevo notato
la pagina wiki dell'Umbria praticamente vuota da dicembre scorso mi sono
messo ad arricchirla, in particolar modo ho lavorato sullo stato della
mappa (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Umbria_Stato), prendendo
spunto dalle statistiche che erano sul sito GFOSS ma che non vengono più
aggiornate da settembre 2013. Se non c'è di meglio e può interessare
qualcuno posso dire qualcosa a proposito.

Ciao
Marcello 

Il 12/08/2015 09:44, Michele Mondelli ha scritto:
 Salve a tutti.

 Riporto agli onori della cronaca la discussione su OSMit 2015.

 Ho notato che su http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:OSMit2015 siamo
 ancora segnati in due per l'evento!
 Se ci sono persone che sanno di venire e soprattutto di poter
 contribuire con un talk o che hanno una proposta su cosa fare a
 livello pratico durante OSMit, segnatevi!
 Inutile che vi dica che riuscire a decidere il prima possibile il
 programma dell'evento ci permette di pubblicizzarlo al meglio.

 Vi dico intanto che all'università si sono resi disponibili ad
 organizzare iniziative con gli studenti, ed a partecipare attivamente
 all'iniziativa.
 Ovviamente adesso sono tutti in vacanza, ma subito a fine agosto li
 risento. Vorrei potergli dare maggiori informazioni su come sarà
 strutturato l'evento, di cosa si parlerà,
 cosa faremo, ecc.

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 .
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Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread TC Haddad
  Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services
 and will only support JSON and SOAP?   (which I cannot get JOSM to
accept).

Just to comment on this one point: As a federal agency, the USDA is
*required* to support the open standard option of the WMS service type, so
it *should* be available.

In looking at all the different state NAIP imagery sets listed in their
directory here: http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP, every
single other state lists the WMS option, so it's clearly an error that
South Carolina is missing it.

Hopefully the service maintainers will catch on and correct soon, but if
you or others have a contact it is worth an email to make them aware, both
of the mistake, and of the customer base for the open standard option.



On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:

 On 8/12/2015 5:15 PM, Jonah Adkins wrote:

 you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM
 using this link

 *
 http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x}
 
 http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D
 *



 That worked for me as a TMS service in JOSM.   Thanks!



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Re: [Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati

2015-08-12 Thread Francesco Pelullo
Il 12/ago/2015 19:46, dani rijeka danirijeka.l...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 (newbie alert)

 Buongiorno,

 Se le tracce GPS caricate su OSM discordano da una sorgente dati certa e
georeferenziata come la Carta Tecnica Provinciale disponibile in CC-BY
(seppur leggermente, soprattutto mancanza di dettagli fini come due
tornanti di un sentiero trasformati in una linea retta, o una scorciatoia
presa come traccia del sentiero ufficiale), è accettabile inserire
dettagli che risultano dalla Carta ma non dalle tracce GPS?

 Grazie



Io mapperei quello che c'è nella realtà e che chiunque altro può verificare.

Ciao
/niubii/
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[talk-ph] PH imagery at openaerialmap.org

2015-08-12 Thread maning sambale
UAV imagery over tacloban and eastern samar now available at
openaerialmap.org [0]
Due to bandwidth limitations, we resorted to using the f2f sneakernet [1] ;)

[0] https://developmentseed.org/blog/2015/08/12/post-disaster-imagery/
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet

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Re: [Talk-at] Deklination

2015-08-12 Thread Andreas Voit
Nein, habe auch keinen besseren Wert. Am 11.08.2015 11:54 nachm. schrieb 
Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at:

 On 11.08.2015 21:14, Andreas wrote:
  weiß nicht, ob ich dich richtig verstanden habe. Aber eine lange gerade
  Straße, die früher schon als Referenz verwendet wurde ist die
  Neunkirchner Allee zwischen Wr. Neustadt und Neunkirchen.

 An die habe ich schon ebenso gedacht wie an die Prater-Hauptallee, aber
 beide haben einen unrunden Azimut, z.B. die Neunkirchner Allee hat 52,1°
 (bzw. 232,1°) lt. NÖ-GIS, und da weiß ich nicht mal sicher, ob das stimmt.
 Hast du vielleicht einen genauen Wert?

 Der Verkehr ist ebenfalls störend, aber man kann sich natürlich auf einen
 der Parkplätze stellen und entlang des Banketts messen.

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[Talk-at] Graz+Innsbruck: »Schiene und Straße wurden getrennt«

2015-08-12 Thread Simon Legner
Hallo,

User Weltstaat hat gestern und heute in Graz+Innsbruck einen Teil des
Straßenbahnnetzes vom Straßennetz separiert.

Dabei wurden – soweit ich das gesehen habe und entgegen früheren
vergleichbaren Aktionen in Innsbruck – die ÖPNV-Relationen angepasst.

Allerdings liegen manche Schienenstränge direkt auf/unter den Straßen
und nutzen die gleichen Nodes [1]. Dies erschwert einerseits die
Bearbeitung, weil man nur mehr mühsam den richtigen der beiden Wege
selektieren kann. Andererseits erscheint es mir konzeptuell falsch:
wenn man diese Variante verfolgt, dann müssen Straße und Schiene
völlig unabhängig voneinander gemappt werden und dürfen keine
gemeinsame Nodes haben.

Mit einem weinenden Auge blicke ich auf die zu Anfangszeiten schön
abstrahierten Straßenzüge zurück, aber der Zahn der Zeit lässt sich
wohl nicht aufhalten – oder doch?

Grüße aus Tirol!
Simon

[1] z.B. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26187127 und
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/365330155

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Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Mike N

From the USGS help, it appears that there is some delay.
http://www.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9861/3655

  I spot checked some places in SC, and it looks like it isn't using 
the latest NAIP yet.   So I would find the ability to always use the 
latest NAIP to be useful.  Hopefully it wouldn't be hard to set up as a 
new layer.




On 8/12/2015 5:01 PM, Ian Dees wrote:

Last I checked the latest and greatest NAIP is included in the USGS's
large scale imagery layer, which is tiled and cached on the OSM US
tile server.

I don't have a layer specific to the latest NAIP-only imagery, though.
Is that something you're interested in?

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net
mailto:nice...@att.net wrote:

Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery?  SC 2015 imagery
has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists
WMS as a format -


http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer

   SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed.   Does this mean
that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only
support JSON and SOAP?   (which I cannot get JOSM to accept).


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Re: [Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH

2015-08-12 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey everyone,

During the winter/spring I was updating the PATH when I was frequently
taking it to/from home, but I've taken a break since it's nice outside (I
hope that's understandable!).  The PATH is a bit of a beast to update
because it's invisible to imagery and GPS and, in many parts, poorly
signed.  Although the challenge of mapping from memory is part of the fun
for me :)

George  Darren, what are the main things you're looking to have us add?
Is the biggest priority for you the detailed footways, access points, and
the proper connections between the two (elevators, steps, escalators)?  I'm
guessing shops are of secondary importance to the wayfinding/routing
portion of the app?

Thanks,

-Kevin F (Kevo)


On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM, James james2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check out:

 http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD
 It's their open data portal which also includes the building address
 shapefile(not sure how accurate this is, I know Ottawa's has about 30%
 errors (overlapping duplicate nodes, misplaced nodes))
 Address shape file(can be open in JOSM with opendata plugin):

 http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=91415f9cd70bb210VgnVCM103dd60f89RCRDvgnextchannel=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD

 But in the data portal there's all sort of information, paths, etc

 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:34 AM, George Silva georger.si...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to
 improve the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded
 effort.

 I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a
 foreigner and not being on Toronto.

 The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area.

 More details, please contact Darren Jones, at
 dar...@crosspathsolutions.com

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Re: [Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH

2015-08-12 Thread George Silva
Hello Kevin,

The main thing is indeed the many entrances that the PATH has. We have some
of that mapped (indicated) over some maps, that might help.

Talk to Darren, so he and his associate can decide the best way to proceed.

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hey everyone,

 During the winter/spring I was updating the PATH when I was frequently
 taking it to/from home, but I've taken a break since it's nice outside (I
 hope that's understandable!).  The PATH is a bit of a beast to update
 because it's invisible to imagery and GPS and, in many parts, poorly
 signed.  Although the challenge of mapping from memory is part of the fun
 for me :)

 George  Darren, what are the main things you're looking to have us add?
 Is the biggest priority for you the detailed footways, access points, and
 the proper connections between the two (elevators, steps, escalators)?  I'm
 guessing shops are of secondary importance to the wayfinding/routing
 portion of the app?

 Thanks,

 -Kevin F (Kevo)


 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM, James james2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check out:

 http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD
 It's their open data portal which also includes the building address
 shapefile(not sure how accurate this is, I know Ottawa's has about 30%
 errors (overlapping duplicate nodes, misplaced nodes))
 Address shape file(can be open in JOSM with opendata plugin):

 http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=91415f9cd70bb210VgnVCM103dd60f89RCRDvgnextchannel=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD

 But in the data portal there's all sort of information, paths, etc

 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:34 AM, George Silva georger.si...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to
 improve the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded
 effort.

 I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a
 foreigner and not being on Toronto.

 The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area.

 More details, please contact Darren Jones, at
 dar...@crosspathsolutions.com

 Thanks

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Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
I’ve used the NAIP imagery to confirm the existence/absence of something, since 
it’s often more recent than the BING imagery.

I had used the WMS servers in JOSM, but having specific access to just that 
dataset would be handy.

Darrell


 On Aug 12, 2015, at 14:01, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Last I checked the latest and greatest NAIP is included in the USGS's large 
 scale imagery layer, which is tiled and cached on the OSM US tile server.
 
 I don't have a layer specific to the latest NAIP-only imagery, though. Is 
 that something you're interested in?
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net 
 mailto:nice...@att.net wrote:
 Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery?  SC 2015 imagery has been 
 acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format -
 
 http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer
  
 http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer
 
   SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed.   Does this mean that NAIP 
 will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and 
 SOAP?   (which I cannot get JOSM to accept).
 
 
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Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Mike N

On 8/12/2015 5:51 PM, TC Haddad wrote:

Just to comment on this one point: As a federal agency, the USDA is
*required* to support the open standard option of the WMS service type,
so it *should* be available.

In looking at all the different state NAIP imagery sets listed in their
directory here: http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP,
every single other state lists the WMS option, so it's clearly an error
that South Carolina is missing it.

Hopefully the service maintainers will catch on and correct soon, but if
you or others have a contact it is worth an email to make them aware,
both of the mistake, and of the customer base for the open standard option.


  It might be that it is still at some review or implementation stage 
and they haven't generated WMS yet.  I'll keep an eye on it and contact 
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Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Jonah Adkins
it creates a redirect with a correct tile scheme because most ArcGIS
services don't follow normal tiling schemes when they are created - source
code @  https://github.com/gisinc/arcgis-level-fixer

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jonah, does this redirect to an /export URL or does it do any caching of
 the resulting image (so as to reduce load on the server)?

 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jonah Adkins jonahadk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM
 using this link

  
 *http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x}
 http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D*

 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:

 Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery?  SC 2015 imagery has
 been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a
 format -


 http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer

   SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed.   Does this mean that
 NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON
 and SOAP?   (which I cannot get JOSM to accept).


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Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Jonah Adkins
you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM using
this link

 
*http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x}
http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D*

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:

 Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery?  SC 2015 imagery has
 been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a
 format -


 http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer

   SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed.   Does this mean that NAIP
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Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Ian Dees
Jonah, does this redirect to an /export URL or does it do any caching of
the resulting image (so as to reduce load on the server)?

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jonah Adkins jonahadk...@gmail.com wrote:

 you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM
 using this link

  
 *http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x}
 http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D*

 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:

 Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery?  SC 2015 imagery has
 been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a
 format -


 http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer

   SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed.   Does this mean that
 NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON
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Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for Default Map style - pull requested is opened

2015-08-12 Thread Andrew Hain
Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at gmail.com writes:

 
 https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736 - 
review
 of the code and comments are welcome.

We have a great opportunity for a spot of promotion. Publish a post 
on our blog announcing the new style and explaining the reasoning 
behind it. Don’t forget to remind people that there’s a wide variety 
of map styles out there that you can even write your own style.

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Re: [Talk-TW] 新人報到,遇到了有這樣觀念的家人....

2015-08-12 Thread 李昕迪 Lee , Sin-di
公開的資訊你不畫自有人畫

在 2015年8月12日 下午5:33,clarkcabo clarkc...@yahoo.com.tw 寫道:
 敝人開始接觸OSM約在1年多前,發現OSM上關於我住的鎮的資訊很少,像景點、店家、GOV或NGO機關單位...等等及新的道路,所以就有空就在OSM官網增修鎮上的圖資...

 但是像因為我家是旅宿業,鎮上同業競爭激烈,其實那些同業的圖資位置在其的他電子地圖或導航軟硬體上大部份都有,在OSM上的資訊就很少,我還是盡量把鎮上那些大小新舊有在營業旅館/民宿標示在OSM上...

 我媽知道了,很生氣說:
 為什麼要幫別人(同業)打廣告?現在生意難做,你可以把那些同業資料都刪除嗎?
 只留我們家開的就好了,讓使用你說的這個東西的外地遊客來鎮上要住宿時,只能找到我們家的民宿!...
 我聽了真是無言...,

 難道OSM曾經或可能發生故意(惡意)大量刪除競爭同業(如連鎖加盟業)的很多甚至全部的分店的圖資的情況,OSM有什麼方法處理這樣的狀況...?

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Re: [Talk-TW] 新人報到,遇到了有這樣觀念的家人....

2015-08-12 Thread Dennis Raylin Chen
先說我對目前OSM地圖狀況,以臺灣畫POI狀況來說,對一般人的參考價值不高
大多數人靠汽車導行或是Google地圖

對業者來說會用Google Map Maker還比較實用


回到原po的問題
如同昕迪講的,公開的東西都會有人畫
以我來說出去玩稍微畫去的景點,住的旅舍
如果有大量刪除的狀況,有工具能夠一次回復
不用擔心對OSM會怎樣

Dennis

2015-08-13 8:06 GMT+08:00 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di mcd...@gmail.com:

 公開的資訊你不畫自有人畫

 在 2015年8月12日 下午5:33,clarkcabo clarkc...@yahoo.com.tw 寫道:
 
 敝人開始接觸OSM約在1年多前,發現OSM上關於我住的鎮的資訊很少,像景點、店家、GOV或NGO機關單位...等等及新的道路,所以就有空就在OSM官網增修鎮上的圖資...
 
 
 但是像因為我家是旅宿業,鎮上同業競爭激烈,其實那些同業的圖資位置在其的他電子地圖或導航軟硬體上大部份都有,在OSM上的資訊就很少,我還是盡量把鎮上那些大小新舊有在營業旅館/民宿標示在OSM上...
 
  我媽知道了,很生氣說:
  為什麼要幫別人(同業)打廣告?現在生意難做,你可以把那些同業資料都刪除嗎?
  只留我們家開的就好了,讓使用你說的這個東西的外地遊客來鎮上要住宿時,只能找到我們家的民宿!...
  我聽了真是無言...,
 
  難道OSM曾經或可能發生故意(惡意)大量刪除競爭同業(如連鎖加盟業)的很多甚至全部的分店的圖資的情況,OSM有什麼方法處理這樣的狀況...?
 
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[Talk-in] Mapping workshop at Kozhikode Collectorate on Aug 14

2015-08-12 Thread Arun Ganesh
There is a OSM mapping workshop being organized by Gopinath from Blue
Yonder with the help of Kozhikode district administration at the
Collectorate tomorrow morning. The agenda is to train a volunteer mapping
team of around 20 to be comfortable collecting data using various tools and
mapping it on OpenStreetMap. I'll be in Kozhikode tomorrow whole day for
this along with my team mate Pratik from Mapbox.

For tomorrow we will map out the area around the Collectorate [1] in
maximum detail using Mapillary and other mobile apps.

This is part of a larger project to spread community mapping in Kerala. If
there are any local mappers interested in attending and helping out, do get
in touch with Gopi offthread asap.

[1] https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox?compose=14f259b9b7bdf6b9

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Re: [Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati

2015-08-12 Thread Marco Bodrato
Ciao,

On Thu, August 13, 2015 12:45 am, Francesco Pelullo wrote:
 Il 12/ago/2015 19:46, dani rijeka danirijeka.l...@gmail.com ha
 scritto:

 Se le tracce GPS caricate su OSM discordano da una sorgente dati certa e
 georeferenziata come la Carta Tecnica Provinciale disponibile in CC-BY
 (seppur leggermente, soprattutto mancanza di dettagli fini come due
 tornanti di un sentiero trasformati in una linea retta, o una scorciatoia
 presa come traccia del sentiero ufficiale),

Nelle aree protette spesso è richiesto di seguire i sentieri ufficiali,
perché tagliare le curve crea tracce che poi guidano lo scorrimento
d'acqua con conseguente maggiore erosione e danni all'ecosistema, quindi
andrei cauto prima di suggerire scorciatoie inserendole in una mappa.

 È accettabile inserire
 dettagli che risultano dalla Carta ma non dalle tracce GPS?

 Io mapperei quello che c'è nella realtà  e che chiunque altro può
 verificare.

Il concetto di realtà è totalmente astratto e in quanto tale inadatto a
decidere cosa inserire in una mappa e cosa no. I toponimi, i confini
amministrativi... sono reali? Se in mezzo alla strada c'è realmente un
sasso, devo mapparlo? Se la traccia di una scorciatoia è realmente
evidente e sempre più profonda perché sta diventando un ruscello, ma i
gestori naturalistici della zona stanno tentando di arginare il danno e
far ricrescere la vegetazione, chiedendo la collaborazione a tutti perché
non la si calpesti, dobbiamo segnarla come sentiero?

Il problema è che si dovrebbe conoscere quello che si inserisce, solo così
si può sapere cosa è rilevante e cosa no, se il raddrizzamento di una
curva dipende da una momentanea defaiance della registrazione GPS o dalla
necessità di evitare una frana, se la scorciatoia rimasta sulle tracce GPS
è stata presa per evitare un animale selvatico oppure il sentiero si è
modificato per la crescita della vegetazione...

Non potendo andare sul posto e volendo comunque mappare la zona... si è
costretti a scegliere quale sia la fonte più affidabile.

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Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-12 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes:
  Hi,
  
  On 08/11/2015 07:09 AM, Russ Nelson wrote:
   If you have
   ever said delete things you don't see, then you need to shut the
   hell up, because you are making the map worse. Just stop!
  
  Delete things you don't see (with some notable exceptions, abandoned
  railways not being among them).

Yep. You're one of the people who needs to shut the hell up. I wasn't
going to name names -- thank you for fingering yourself as one of the
guilty parties. Thanks for your cooperation in ceasing this practice,
I really appreciate your help.

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[talk-ph] Fwd: Position Vacant - On Line Cartogropher

2015-08-12 Thread maning sambale
If you fancy working with maps.  Please share to those who might be interested.

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From: Mark Cupitt m...@thebrainhub.net
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:57 PM
Subject: Position Vacant - On Line Cartogropher
To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com


Hi Maning, long time no hear

I have a position vacant in my Cebu Office (Ayala) for an on-line
cartographer. Basically it is making proprietary on-line maps from a
variety of sources

Specific Software skills are not important, but what is important is a
love of maps, attention to detail, ability to show up to work, team
orientated and able to work independently with minimal supervision

Its a 5 day per week position, 6 months probation, excellent benefits
package after probation, including HMO, 15 days sick and 15 days
vacation leaves.

The position would suit a young person who was very keen on maps but
did not have a lot of experience.

We do use ER mapper, but will train the right person in the software,
most of our apps proprietary written in house.

Feel free to pass around, it is a good opportunity for a young person
interested in mapping.

Starting is September 1st or later if they need to give 30 days notice.

This is an international company, Swiss based ..

Resume can be sent to brain...@thebrainhub.net, pdf preferred.

Best Regards

Mark Cupitt
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[Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?

2015-08-12 Thread Luca Moiana
Ciao,

curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che alcune 
stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway halt. Che 
differenza c'è?
Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, 
mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali.

grazie

L
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Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Mi spiace un sacco per mille motivi (il primo di quelli è per aver
contribuito affinchè osmit venisse portato avanti in questi anni), ma
nelel date scelte proprio non ci posso essere.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église

2015-08-12 Thread Vincent de Château-Thierry


Le 12/08/2015 10:27, Florian LAINEZ a écrit :


Encore mieux d'après moi, c'est de mentionner la date de démolition
directement dans le tag, comme je l'ai fait par exemple pour le
changement de référence de ce quai :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/283586749
Dans ton cas, en lieu et place de *amenity=place_of_worship* je mettrai
donc *demolished:-2015_08_20:amenity=place_of_worship* (si la date de
fin de démolition est bien le 20 août comme mentionné dans l'article de
presse).*


Mettre une valeur (la date) comme tag, et non comme...valeur de tag, 
c'est bancal, et assez inexploitable, non ? Les tags devraient rester 
aussi génériques que possible, aux valeurs de donner le détail. Ici, un 
demolition_date=2015_08_20 ou quelque chose dans le même genre aurait ma 
préférence (euphémisme).


vincent

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Re: [Talk-es] Mapas

2015-08-12 Thread Carlos Dávila

El 12/08/15 a las 01:16, Hector Calvo escribió:


Dias pasados baje partes  de mapas de Italia y Francia en una mini SD 
al GPS garmin nuvi 1490 pero no los lee, pienso que tal vez algun 
archivo no lo bajo correctamente?

Atentamente Hector desde Argentina

¿Qué tipo de archivo has bajado? Los Garmin solo leen mapas que estén 
hechos en su formato de archivo. Los datos de OSM hay que convertirlos 
al formato de Garmin para poder usarlos en el GPS.


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Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Michele Mondelli
Salve a tutti.

Riporto agli onori della cronaca la discussione su OSMit 2015.

Ho notato che su http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:OSMit2015 siamo
ancora segnati in due per l'evento!
Se ci sono persone che sanno di venire e soprattutto di poter contribuire
con un talk o che hanno una proposta su cosa fare a livello pratico durante
OSMit, segnatevi!
Inutile che vi dica che riuscire a decidere il prima possibile il programma
dell'evento ci permette di pubblicizzarlo al meglio.

Vi dico intanto che all'università si sono resi disponibili ad organizzare
iniziative con gli studenti, ed a partecipare attivamente all'iniziativa.
Ovviamente adesso sono tutti in vacanza, ma subito a fine agosto li
risento. Vorrei potergli dare maggiori informazioni su come sarà
strutturato l'evento, di cosa si parlerà,
cosa faremo, ecc.

A presto,

Il giorno 15 giugno 2015 09:59, Michele Mondelli mithenks...@gmail.com ha
scritto:

 Buongiorno a tutti.

 Colpevolmente con un po' di ritardo, cerco di tirare le somme della
 riunione di giovedì scorso.

 *Resoconto*
 La maggior parte della discussione è stata incentrata sulla possibilità,
 proposta da noi di Siena, di aprire OSMit.
 Ovvero, di creare alcune sessioni e interventi paralleli che abbiano come
 oggetto l'importanza, la centralità e la necessità di OSM in vari argomenti
 direttamente correlati.

 Mi sembra che sia emersa forte la necessità di lasciare la linea
 principale dell'evento come dedicata alla comunità.
 In questo senso, per parlare (e soprattutto fare) tra addetti ai lavori,
 per discutere dello stato della mappa, per avere un'occasione durante
 l'anno nella quale vedersi e lavorare di persona tra chi tutto l'anno si
 sente solo via internet.

 È anche però importante, soprattutto per cercare di allargare la platea di
 coloro che collaborano con OSM, di dedicare degli spazi a chi di OSM sa
 poco o nulla, a chi è curioso e vuole capire come collaborare, e anche a
 chi lavora e vuole scoprire come utilizzare OSM a livello professionale.

 Cercando quindi di fare una sintesi, io proporrei:

- una linea principale, il vero e proprio OSMit 2015, con interventi
e laboratori dedicati alla comunità;
- dei temi ed interventi di contorno, che analizzino le declinazioni
di OSM in varie tematiche (come ad esempio il business, la ricerca, o
semplicemente un introduzione per chi non sa cosa sia).

 Ovviamente le due linee, se così possiamo definirle, non sarebbero in
 competizione, in quanto dedicate a platee molto diverse.

 In questo modo io credo si possano raggiungere due scopi importanti:

- avere un momento di incontro e confronto della comunità, nel quale
discutere e lavorare insieme;
- creare interesse intorno al mondo OSM, sottolineando l'importanza di
chi partecipa come mappatore, e dei benefini alla comunità.

 Un'ottima idea proposta è stata quella di utilizzare, per questa seconda
 linea, delle sessioni poster. In questo modo si creano degli interventi
 molto snelli, non contemporanei a nessuna iniziativa OSMit, ma che hanno
 il pregio di rimanere visitabili per tutta la durata dell'evento.

 La data dell'OSMit si è detto potrebbe essere il 6-7-8 novembre.

 *Proposte*
 A questo punto, per cominciare anche ad avere un'idea degli interventi per
 OSMit, direi che si potrebbero cominciare a raccogliere i talk.
 Io ho già indicato il mio qui:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:OSMit2015
 Lo stesso vale per le presenze. Segnatevi e fate segnare!

 Mercoledì ho una riunione con l'università, a valle della quale conto di
 darvi con maggiore preciso l'idea degli spazi e delle attrezzature che
 avremo a disposizione, oltre che delle proposte dell'università stessa per
 far partecipare studenti e docenti all'evento.


 ciao,

 Il giorno 11 giugno 2015 16:44, Michele Mondelli mithenks...@gmail.com
 ha scritto:

 Certo! Faccio un hangout e aggiungo tutti!

 Il giorno 11 giugno 2015 15:40, Leonardo Frassetto 
 kinetocor...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 Basta accedere al tuo account gmail e c'è la sezione hangout. Se non hai
 il plugin installato per le chiamate te lo offre il browser
 automaticamente.

 Vorrei partecipare pure io se è possibile
 Il 11/giu/2015 14:18, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 Scusate, mi sono perso questo piccolo dettaglio.   :-(
 Mai utilizzato.
 Che devo fare?
 Ho Chrome su un portatile Windows con videocamera e un buon
 collegamento.
 Volker

 2015-06-11 13:46 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com:

 Il 11 giugno 2015 13:43, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha
 scritto:
  Se serve sono disponibile alle 18 via Skype (volker.schmidt)

 Ciao Volker,

 Michele nella sua mail precedente diceva di usare Hangout, inoltre
 Skype funziona meno bene se ci sono numerosi partecipanti.

 C

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Francesco Pelullo
Io quasi certamente parteciperò, non mi sono ancora iscritto per
scaramanzia.

Ciao
/niubii/



Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:34, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha
scritto:

 Mi spiace un sacco per mille motivi (il primo di quelli è per aver
 contribuito affinchè osmit venisse portato avanti in questi anni), ma
 nelel date scelte proprio non ci posso essere.

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Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?

2015-08-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
vedi:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dhalt
(non sembra disponibile in italiano)

Halts Are Not Stations

Please note the difference between stations and halts. Stations are
operating sites which have at least one switch, whereas halts do not have
any switches. That's why even important stations like Hamburg-Dammtor and
Jena-Paradies (both ICE stations) are halts, not stations.

Volker

2015-08-12 9:16 GMT+02:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com:

 Ciao,

 curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che
 alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway
 halt. Che differenza c'è?
 Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato,
 mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali.

 grazie

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église

2015-08-12 Thread tyndare

Tant que le bâtiment et les points de repères sont visibles dans des sources de 
données servant a cartographier, comme la cadastre et l'imagerie Bing, je 
trouve qu'il est utile de les conserver dans OSM, en remplaçant les tag 
principaux par la versions préfixée de demolished:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix

Ça évite aussi qu'un contributeurs non local, depuis son canapé, redessine tout 
ce qu'il voit qu'il manque d'après Bing (expérience vecue)



Le 12 août 2015 08:42:09 GMT+02:00, David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr a 
écrit :
Bonjour

Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :
 Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points
 géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit?

Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense 
que l’existant.

Cordialement

-- 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)

2015-08-12 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo

OurAirports à déjà était importé.

My 2 cents.


Le 12/08/2015 00:06, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :

Bonjour, on va simplifier :
alors que le titre semblait indiquer que ourairports était
américano-américain, il est en fait mondial et en données versées au
domaine public.
J'ai fait un comparatif qui semble parler de lui-même :


OurAirports OpenFlights
License *public domain* souhaitent mais n'exigent pas d'être cités
OBdL/commercial
Entrées *46 516*8 107
Positionlat, lon, ele   lat, lon, ele (en pieds)
latitudelatitude_deglat
longitude   longitude_deg   lon
altitudeelevation_ftele_ft



*Type*  ballonport
heliport
seaplane_base

small_airport
medium_airport
large_airport

closed  -



Dénomination

name:en name
localitécouple ville principale/commune du site
quelques vides  city= ville principale
name=commune locale ou lieu-dit
continent   oui -
paysiso_country country
état/région iso_region  -



Référence   

3 alpha (iata)  iata_code   iata
4 alpha (icao)  gps_codeicao
4-7 alpha   ident   
code local/nationalde l'aéroportlocal_code  



wikipedia:en*wikipedia_link*
website *home_link* 



Divers  

scheduled_service   indique si les vols sont préprogrammés  -
fuseau horaire  -   oui, mais heure d'été sujette à caution dans certains
états


Voici ce que ça donne sur un degré carré :

OpenFlightIDNameCityCountry iataicaoLat Lon 
AltitudeFt
TimezoneDSTtype TimezoneName
1403GuipavasBrest   France  BES LFRB48,447911   
-4,418539
325 1   E   Europe/Paris
1411Landivisiau Landivisiau France  
LFRJ48,530258   -4,151642   348 1   E   
Europe/Paris
1413Poulmic LanvedocFrance  
LFRL48,281703   -4,445017   287 1   E   
Europe/Paris


Aucun héliport, une erreur dans le nom d'une ville (Lanvéoc),
localisation moins précise que ci-dessous.

ident   typenamelatitude_deglongitude_deg   elevation_ft
continent   iso_country iso_region  municipality
scheduled_service
gps_codeiata_code   local_code  home_link   wikipedia_link  
keywords
FR-0046 heliportAmirauté Heliport   48,3805542  
-4,49166679 8   EU
FR  FR-EBrest   no  





FR-0053 heliportLa Cavale Blanche Centre Hospitalier Heliport
48,40353012 -4,52956676 121 EU  FR  FR-EBrest   no  





*LFRB*  *medium_airport**Brest Bretagne Airport**48,44789886*
*-4,41854*  *325*   *EU**FR**FR-E*  *Brest/Guipavas**yes*   
*LFRB*
*BES*   *
*   *
*   *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest_Bretagne_Airport*
*LFRJ*  *medium_airport**Landivisiau Air Base*  *48,53030014*
*-4,15163994*   *348*   *EU**FR**FR-E*  *Landivisiau*   *no**LFRJ*
*LDV*   *
*   *
*   *
*   *
*
*LFRL*  *medium_airport**Lanvéoc-Poulmic Air Base*  *48,28170013*
*-4,4450202**287*   *EU**FR**FR-E*  *Lanvéoc/Poulmic*   *no*
*LFRL*  *
*   *
*   *
*   *
*   *
*



















Sachant que OpenStreeMap trouve 6 héliports.

Se pose la question de la meilleure façon de rapprocher les données.
Est-ce que vous savez à quoi ident correspondrait sur OpenStreeMap ? ça
ressemble à une référence internationale.

Jean-Yvon


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église

2015-08-12 Thread Florian LAINEZ
Personnellement, pour une église détruite dont on ne trouve plus aucune
trace sur le terrain, je ne la supprimerai pas pour autant de la base :
cette information a toujours de la valeur, même si de nouveaux bâtiments
sont construits par dessus.
Une solution est de changer *amenity=place_of_worship* en
*demolished:amenity=place_of_worship* comme décrit sur la page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix en mentionnant dans
note=* les dates de destruction.
Encore mieux d'après moi, c'est de mentionner la date de démolition
directement dans le tag, comme je l'ai fait par exemple pour le changement
de référence de ce quai : http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/283586749
Dans ton cas, en lieu et place de *amenity=place_of_worship* je mettrai
donc *demolished:-2015_08_20:amenity=place_of_worship* (si la date de fin
de démolition est bien le 20 août comme mentionné dans l'article de presse).

Le 12 août 2015 08:55, Vincent de Château-Thierry v...@laposte.net a
écrit :

 Bonjour,

 Le 12/08/2015 08:42, David Crochet a écrit :


 Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :

 Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points
 géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit?


 Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense
 que l’existant.


 Mais à garder ici :

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Rep%C3%A8res_G%C3%A9od%C3%A9siques#Modifications_des_donn.C3.A9es
 dans la section Supprimés.

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Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?

2015-08-12 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2015-08-12 at 07:16:05 +, Luca Moiana wrote:
 curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che 
 alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway 
 halt. Che differenza c'è?
 Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, 
 mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali.

ferrovie locali? dici le nord? (ormai i treni che circolano lì e sulle
linee regionali dello stato sono gli stessi)

tra malnate e laveno le nord hanno un binario solo; se non ricordo male 
molte stazioni intermedie hanno anche loro un solo binario, e quindi 
la cosa corrisponderebbe con quanto scritto nell'altra mail (switch è 
lo scambio, vero?)

non ricordo quali, oltre ovviamente a Varese dovrebbero esserci più
binari a Gavirate, ma per le altre dovrei andare apposta a controllare.

-- 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église

2015-08-12 Thread Vincent de Château-Thierry

Bonjour,

Le 12/08/2015 08:42, David Crochet a écrit :


Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :

Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points
géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit?


Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense
que l’existant.


Mais à garder ici :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Rep%C3%A8res_G%C3%A9od%C3%A9siques#Modifications_des_donn.C3.A9es
dans la section Supprimés.

vincent

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[OSM-talk-be] DigAnt Café - meetup

2015-08-12 Thread Glenn Plas
http://www.meetup.com/DigAnt-Cafe/

 This DigAnt Café meetup group aims to gather all those who want to co-create 
 a future proof open source city platform that unlocks various apps and 
 services.

Peut-être que cet événement est suffisamment intéressant pour nous d'y
aller...

Misschien is dit wel interessant genoeg om te gaan voor ons.

Might be interesting to go there, we are considering this professionally
as well.


Glenn

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Re: [talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks

2015-08-12 Thread forster

Hi all

I only got to speak briefly with the Head Ranger today. I request a  
further week delay in the decision on the tagging of Ant Trail.


Thanks
Tony



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église

2015-08-12 Thread David Crochet

Bonjour

Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :

Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points
géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit?


Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense 
que l’existant.


Cordialement

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Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM

2015-08-12 Thread Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso
Hola.

Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que
debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de
aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando.
Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También puede
que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y de
nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque
sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos
introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego
tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble.

Un saludo
El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez 
ludovic...@gmail.com escribió:

 Buenos días a todos
 Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más o
 menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta
 surgiendo una duda con los tags

- Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es:
carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria...
- Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las
características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera.

 Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo,
 el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo
 al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no
 requiere la aprobación de los mismos

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Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch

2015-08-12 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 07:27:25PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
 Am 11. August 2015 um 18:11 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de:
  Defakto werden sie gelöscht - und leider durchsucht das wiki keine user
  pages sonst könnte man was dazu finden.
 
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Flohoff#key:_dtag-vzk
 
 gerade wenn das wiki keine userpages durchsucht wäre es doch besser, das in
 den allgemeinen namespace zu verschieben oder kopieren, z.B. als proposal.
 ;-)

Das proposal system habe ich noch nie so richtig verstanden. Wie soll
ich über irgendwas diskutieren und abstimmen was noch niemand
ausprobiert hat. Ist aber ein anderes Problem.

Warum sind unbekannte Tags ein problem? Warum fordert osmose auf die zu
überprüfen? Bei einer geringen hamming distanz zu bestandstags sehe ich
das ja ein - Falsschreibung etc - Aber warum sollte nicht jeder tags
selber setzen dürfen für einen spezialanwendungsfall?

Ich extende die gerne auch um einen private/user specific namespace oder
ähnliches.

Flo
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[Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM

2015-08-12 Thread Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez
Buenos días a todos
Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más o
menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta
surgiendo una duda con los tags

   - Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es:
   carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria...
   - Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las
   características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera.

Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo,
el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo
al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no
requiere la aprobación de los mismos

Un saludo
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Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

 If you were complaining that the trail isn't there then I'd understand,
 and you'd have my full support for adding it. But complaining instead
 that the abandoned railway isn't there...?


They're often prominent features, especially in rural areas, as these can
be *highly* visible decades after the land use changes, sometimes by
something as subtle as how crops grow on them, due to the much higher soil
compaction and use of herbicidal compounds to support  and keep the line
clear when it was an active railroad and can be readily used to orient
yourself to if you have a map of the area that makes note of it.  There's
an inordinately large number of abandoned railroads in the panhandles of
Texas and Oklahoma and adjacent parts of New Mexico, Colorado and Kansas
(within my travels, what seems like about a 100+ mile wide swath from
Gunnison, CO to Guymon, OK) that are north of 100 miles long that are
sometimes not much more than a graded spot nothing grows on unless
deliberately cultivated, and maybe not even then without some noticeable
stunting.
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[Talk-TW] 新人報到,遇到了有這樣觀念的家人....

2015-08-12 Thread clarkcabo
敝人開始接觸OSM約在1年多前,發現OSM上關於我住的鎮的資訊很少,像景點、店家、GOV或NGO機關單位...等等及新的道路,所以就有空就在OSM官網增修鎮上的圖資...
但是像因為我家是旅宿業,鎮上同業競爭激烈,其實那些同業的圖資位置在其的他電子地圖或導航軟硬體上大部份都有,在OSM上的資訊就很少,我還是盡量把鎮上那些大小新舊有在營業旅館/民宿標示在OSM上...
我媽知道了,很生氣說:為什麼要幫別人(同業)打廣告?現在生意難做,你可以把那些同業資料都刪除嗎?只留我們家開的就好了,讓使用你說的這個東西的外地遊客來鎮上要住宿時,只能找到我們家的民宿!...我聽了真是無言...,
難道OSM曾經或可能發生故意(惡意)大量刪除競爭同業(如連鎖加盟業)的很多甚至全部的分店的圖資的情況,OSM有什麼方法處理這樣的狀況...?
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[Talk-GB] OpenData Camp Manchester, October 2015

2015-08-12 Thread SK53
The second tranche of OpenData Camp tickets become available at noon today:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/open-data-camp-2-tickets-17882025620

Earlier in the year, Nick Whitlegg, Gregory Marler and I attended the
inaugural event at Hampshire County Council in Winchester. It's not
strictly speaking a hack event, more an unconference. I found it a great
opportunity to meet folk from central and local government, as well as from
Ordnance Survey, and small firms and consultancies using OpenData.

Although we may think of OSM in the context of government Open Data
primarily as a user, its worth stressing the point that OSM is a major open
data supplier to this community too.

I'm not sure if I will be able to attend, but I think it would be good to
have a clear OSM presence at the event.

Jerry
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Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Leonardo
Pure io ho intenzione di partecipare ma devo aspettare la programmazione 
delle ferie autunnali/invernali a lavoro per poter confermare al 100% la 
mia presenza.


Leonardo

Il 12/08/2015 10:40, Francesco Pelullo ha scritto:
Io quasi certamente parteciperò, non mi sono ancora iscritto per 
scaramanzia.


Ciao
/niubii/



Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:34, Maurizio Napolitano 
napoo...@gmail.com mailto:napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto:


Mi spiace un sacco per mille motivi (il primo di quelli è per aver
contribuito affinchè osmit venisse portato avanti in questi anni), ma
nelel date scelte proprio non ci posso essere.

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Re: [OSM-ja] opening_hoursの書式

2015-08-12 Thread tomoya muramoto
muramotoです。

ご意見ありがとうございます。

献血ルームでは、営業時間や開店時間といった表記はなく、受付時間しか明記されていないと思います。
(例:新宿東口献血ルーム https://www.tokyo.bc.jrc.or.jp/rooms/roomhp/room15.html)

(1)この場合、opening_hoursには何の時間を指定すべきでしょうか。
(2)私は成分献血ばかりしているので、成分献血の受付時間を知りたいと思うのですが、それに適したタグはないと考えてよいでしょうか。(noteに記述する程度?)

なお、opening_hoursのwikiページ(
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours)に
*opening_hours*=06:00-23:00 open Dining in || 00:00-24:00 open
Drive-through
という例があったので、前記の書き方を思いつきました。

引き続きご意見のほどよろしくお願いいたします。

2015年8月11日 20:48 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp:

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 08:20:42PM +0900, tomoya muramoto wrote:
  muramotoです。
 
  献血ルームタグから派生の質問です。
 
  多くの献血ルームでは、成分献血と全血の受付時間が異なっていると思います。
  そのため、opening_hoursの指定が少し複雑になるのですが、書式の中のテキスト部分に日本語を使って良いのか分かりません。
 
  下記に案を3つ挙げますが、どれが適切と思われますでしょうか。個人的には、案2が良いのではないかと思っています。(案1,
  3だとローカルユーザー(日本人)に不便なため)

 opening_hours は、その場所が開店している時間だと思います。
 開店している時間と受付している時間がずれるとしても、受付時間に
 合わせるのは変だと思います。
 美術館とかで、開店時間が指定されているけれど、最終入場時刻も
 指定されていて、閉店時間の30分前くらいになっているのと同じ
 ようなものではないかと思います。

 
  案1:英語のみ
  opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open
  Whole
 
  案2:日英併記
  opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血(Plasma, Platelets) || 10:00-18:30
  open 全血(Whole)
 
  案3:日英分離
  opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open
  Whole
  opening_hours:ja=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血 || 10:00-18:30 open 全血

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Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch

2015-08-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

 Am 12.08.2015 um 12:12 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de:
 
 Das proposal system habe ich noch nie so richtig verstanden. Wie soll
 ich über irgendwas diskutieren und abstimmen was noch niemand
 ausprobiert hat.


manche Probleme erkennt man schon, wenn man mit mehreren Leuten draufschaut, 
auch ohne dass man es ausprobiert, aber wie ich das sehe kann man mit einem 
Proposal auch schonmal nen tag dokumentieren (und über den Status, wie flexibel 
das noch ist) den man gerade ausprobiert.


 Warum sind unbekannte Tags ein problem? Warum fordert osmose auf die zu
 überprüfen? Bei einer geringen hamming distanz zu bestandstags sehe ich
 das ja ein - Falsschreibung etc - Aber warum sollte nicht jeder tags
 selber setzen dürfen für einen spezialanwendungsfall?


darf er ja, aber warum sollte das geheim bleiben müssen? Wenn man es öffentlich 
macht helfen einem die anderen vielleicht bei der weltweiten Erfassung.


 
 Ich extende die gerne auch um einen private/user specific namespace oder
 ähnliches.


wieso? Wenn das jeder machte hätten wir anstatt einer db für alle bald pro user 
eine sub-db, also so was wie 500.000 verschiedene private namespaces, und 
obwohl es da sicherlich reichlich Schnittmengen gäbe, würde man die kaum noch 
finden 

Gruß 
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Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?

2015-08-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

 Am 12.08.2015 um 09:16 schrieb Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com:
 
 Che differenza c'è?
 Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, 
 mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali.


in germania gli halt sono fermate con un unico binario, quindi senza deviatori

si tratta di una gerarchia (halt è meno di station).

ciao 
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Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM

2015-08-12 Thread Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez
Hola
Lo que estoy viendo es que existen carreteras en las que la denominación
oficial es diferente a la que te puedas encontrar en los carteles de las
carreteras-señales de puntos kilométricos,
y por eso me preguntaba si se podría crear un tag para poner la
denominación oficial sin que esto supusiera un engorro para el resto de
usuarios
Un saludo

El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:08, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com
escribió:

 Hola.

 Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que
 debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de
 aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando.
 Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También puede
 que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y de
 nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque
 sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos
 introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego
 tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble.

 Un saludo
 El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez 
 ludovic...@gmail.com escribió:

 Buenos días a todos
 Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más
 o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta
 surgiendo una duda con los tags

- Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es:
carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria...
- Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las
características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera.

 Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo,
 el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo
 al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no
 requiere la aprobación de los mismos

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[Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Mike N
Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery?  SC 2015 imagery has 
been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a 
format -


http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer

  SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed.   Does this mean that 
NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support 
JSON and SOAP?   (which I cannot get JOSM to accept).



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nettoyage en lot

2015-08-12 Thread Erwan
D'après un plan devant l'enclos du port le jardin s'appelle les jardins 
Gabriel

Bon festival à tous 

Erwan

 Le 8 août 2015 à 20:10, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :
 
 Rions un peu : comme je voyais que notre tagueur name=arbre favori avait 
 indique que le jardin devant l'Hôtel Gabriel s'appela jardin de l'hôtel 
 gabriel j'ai demandé à un moteur de recherche s'il connaissait le jardin de 
 l'Hôtel Gabriel. Si oui je ne voulais pas supprimer.
 
 Je suis tombé sur cette page, 
 http://www.llegalemapas.com/information/fr/w290312480/jardin_de_l%27h%C3%B4tel_gabriel.html,
  regardez les lieux proches selon ce site ;-).
 
 Pendant le Festival Interceltique de Lorient allez constater qu'il y a 
 beaucoup d'arbre à Lorient.
 Dépêchez vous, je fais le ménage.
 
 N. B. : le jardin est bien un lieu en tant que tel (comme le lien du FIL le 
 montre).
 jardin de l'Hôtel Gabriel devant l'Hôtel Gabriel, ça fait un peu bizarre.
 Comme il y a l'attribut leisure=garden  et que le jardin est proche de 
 l'Hôtel, est-il nécessaire d'avoir le nom pour Nominatim ?
 Je suis pour garder le nom car il est à côté mais n'est pas contigu de 
 l'Hôtel Gabriel.
 Actuellement il y a 4 polygones, j'ajoute une relation multi-polygone avec le 
 nom dessus ?
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dividing houses with returns as terrace (Brian Hollinshead)

2015-08-12 Thread Conor
Hi Brian,

I was very happy to see your message as there doesn't seem to be a lot
of love out there for careful drawing of building shapes.
Understandably, it can be time consuming and I occasionally do some
architectural drafting for a living so I'm definitely biased and in a
better position than many to tackle this. It may help if I list
general tips I've developed to overcome the very limited tools in JOSM
for aiding with this task. Some of them involve improving results by
not using the obvious way, such as using a tool not intended for a
result to ultimately get that result while leaving clean geometry and
tags.

Install the following plugins for JOSM: alignways, building_tools,
terracer, utilsplugin2.

With all of these installed you now have these useful commands to help
create good quality building shapes:

Orthagonalize Shape [q] (core)
Create Areas [x] (core)
Join Overlapping Areas [shift+j] (core) (referred to as 'merging 
shapes')
Draw Building [b] (building_tools)
Split-Shape [alt+x] (utilsplugin2)
Add nodes at intersection [shift+i] (utilsplugin2)
Terrace a Building [shift+t] (terracer)
Align Ways (alignways)



I'll run through general techniques I use and I'll answer your
question at the very end. You can skip straight to it but it might
make less sense without the following. I'm basing all techniques from
tracing Bing Maps:



1/ With some exceptions, building are nearly always orthogonal or have
angles that mirror others. It's easiest to draw them as orthagonal and
then create any other angles afterwards where confident.

2/ With the above in mind, I generally draw buildings using a series
of independant rectangles which I then merge into a single shape at
the end. This includes returns and any extrusions. While you can draw
a perfectly perpendicular return from a building by adding two nodes
to a rectangle and extruding the line between them using 'Create
Areas', if you draw the return as a seperate rectangle and merge it to
the main house at the end, you have slightly more flexibility with
moving the return around as seperate rectangle than you do with nuding
points and ways on the same shape if it was extruded.

3/ Get familiar with using the 'Draw Building' too for blocking out
the shape of an entire building using rectangles that overlap. If you
have a rectangle selected and begin drawing a new rectanlge using
'Draw Building' it will keep the new rectangle's angles lined up with
the selected one. This is a huge time-saver and helps with accuracy.
Where a more complex building is not perfectly orthagonal I find I'm
often drawing a group of rectangles that are based on two different
rotations. The 'Draw Building' tool helps me keep to these two
different rotations throughout. The original architects usually
followed patterns with angles and you can spot these pretty quickly.

4/ Don't forget you can quickly orthagonalise a shape by selecting it
and hitting 'Q'. If you select a shape and then select any two nodes
on this shape or another before hitting 'Q' the shape will be
orthagonalised and aligned to the same angle between these two nodes.
Very useful with terraces or quickly using other shapes as angle
guides. If you don't select two other nodes the shape will be
orthaganalised to the average of all the angles in the shape. It's
worth knowing that architects often based the angles of a building on
neighbouring buildings so try using these as guides and see if they
help.

5/ I predomiinantly use 'Create Areas' to nudge entire lines parallel
to their origin rather than using them to extrude lines from others.
So If I've drawn one rectangle as a house and another rectangle as a
return. I'll drag the return into place and resize it by nuding its
boundaries using 'Create Areas' on its lines.

6/ To expand on this tip, if you hold down 'alt' while using 'Create
Areas' to either nudge a line or extrude from between two points it
will create an entirely new shape that's glued to the old. This is
immensely valuable. I use it for creating terraces (I'll elaborate on
this) or for creating guides which I'll later delete (ditto).

7/ One area I do use 'Create Areas' for is extruding a return rather
than drawing a seperate rectangle then merging is at the edge of a
building. It's quite quick to align one rectangle with another if you
zoom in to the full extents and make sure the way of one rectangle
lines up with the way or node of another. If I attempt any merging of
shapes after this JOSM treats this level of alignment as being the
same coordinates on both. However, at the edge of a building it can be
quicker to just extrude a return rather than zoom in and align a
seperate rectangle. My exception to this is if two returns meet on a
terrace (I'll elaborate on this).

8/ I always draw to match the roof-top outline of a building and then
drag the finished outline to match corner where the building meets the
ground. Be careful that 

[Talk-it] Navit RC1

2015-08-12 Thread Fabri

Per gli appassionati...è uscito Navit-rc1 con routing migliorato

http://sourceforge.net/projects/navit/files/v0.5.0-rc.1/

This is the long awaited 0.5.0 RC1 release. This release includes way 
too many changes for them to be listed here, but one of the key feature 
is the rewrite of the navigation engine.


Some translations might not be completed at the time of this release. If 
you spot a mistake or a missing translation, please let us know : 
http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Translations


If you are using Android, you can become a beta tester : 
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/org.navitproject.navit


Feedback is welcome!




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Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM

2015-08-12 Thread Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso
Ejemplo?

El mié., 12 ago. 2015 a las 12:17, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez (
ludovic...@gmail.com) escribió:

 Hola
 Lo que estoy viendo es que existen carreteras en las que la denominación
 oficial es diferente a la que te puedas encontrar en los carteles de las
 carreteras-señales de puntos kilométricos,
 y por eso me preguntaba si se podría crear un tag para poner la
 denominación oficial sin que esto supusiera un engorro para el resto de
 usuarios
 Un saludo

 El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:08, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com
  escribió:

 Hola.

 Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que
 debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de
 aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando.
 Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También
 puede que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y
 de nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque
 sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos
 introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego
 tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble.

 Un saludo
 El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez 
 ludovic...@gmail.com escribió:

 Buenos días a todos
 Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más
 o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta
 surgiendo una duda con los tags

- Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es:
carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria...
- Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las
características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera.

 Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo
 grupo, el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría
 comunicarlo al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo
 nivel ya no requiere la aprobación de los mismos

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Re: [Talk-es] Mapas

2015-08-12 Thread Jose Luis
Hola Hector,

En la SD tienes que tener una carpeta llamada Garmin y dentro de esa carpeta 
debes meter un mapa llamado gmapsupp.img que es el que te bajaste.
Si lo que quieres es actualizarlo dentro del GPS (no en la tarjeta), puedes 
meter varios mapas, uno con el nombre gmapprom, otro con gmapsupp (aunque 
tengas otro en la SD que se llame asi no importa) y creo que un tercero puede 
llamarse gmapsupp2
Si lo que te ocurre es que bajaste mal los mapas, ponme un email y te mando el 
enlace de donde yo me los bajos, que si funcionan. Yo me acabo de bajar los de 
varios paises de Europa y funcionan bien (aunque como sabes la informacion de 
OSM es incompleta y con algunos errores)
Aprovecho para preguntar al grupo si alguien sabe en que etiqueta se basan los 
GPS para hacer las busquedas de las calles en el propio GPS, porque a pesar de 
ver en el mapa el nombre de la calle, si lo metes en el buscador del GPS no te 
la encuentra. Además yo he hecho algunas modificaciones en OSM que ya aparecen 
reflejados en mi GPS, pero a pesar que les puse la etiqueta name a las calles 
que creé si que sale el nombre en el mapa del GPS pero no las busca.
No se si es cuestión de etiquetas en el OSM o es que el GPS utiliza algun otro 
archivo distinto para buscar.
Cualquier información será bienvenida.
Saludos
Jose Luis

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  To: talk-es@openstreetmap.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:16 AM
  Subject: [Talk-es] Mapas


  Dias pasados baje partes  de mapas de Italia y Francia en una mini SD al GPS 
garmin nuvi 1490 pero no los lee, pienso que tal vez algun archivo no lo bajo 
correctamente?
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Re: [Talk-is] Tillaga að nýjum götulitum

2015-08-12 Thread Thorir Jonsson
Þetta lítur vel út. Þetta er fyrir Mapnik renderinguna á osm.is er það ekki?

Ef þið eru að gera breytingar á því væri gaman að sjá renderingu á
aeroway=marking líka. Ég er búinn að vera að gera smá tilrauna verkefni með
að nýta OpenStreetmap í vinnunni (hjá Tern Systems - tern.is) og til prufu
bætti ég inn taginu aeroway=marking til að geta kortlagt merkingar á flug-
og akbrautum á flugvöllum. Ég notaði Reykjavíkur flugvöll til að prófa
þetta og það væri gaman að sjá hvernig þetta kæmi út í Mapnik renderingu.

Ég hef notað eftirfarandi samsetnignar:

aeroway=marking með area=yes, þetta eru t.d. brautarnúmer, zebra merkingar
og miðlínur flugbrauta (með viðbótar marking=runway_centreline) og eru
hvítir fletir á nærri öllum flugbrautum.
aeroway=marking með marking=taxiline, þetta eru aksturslínur fyrir
flugvélar á akbrautum og inn á flugbrautir, þær eru yfirleitt gular á
litinn.

Jafnframt bætti ég við aeroway=stopbar, en þetta eru stöðvunarlínur sem öll
farartæki verða að stöðva við og fá sérstakt leifi hjá flugumferðarstjóra
til að aka yfir. Þær eru heil gul lína með samsíða gulri brotalínu. Ég
teiknaði þær allar þannig að brotalínan ætti að koma hægra megin við línuna.

Bestu kveðjur,
Þórir Már

2015-08-11 21:16 GMT+00:00 Karl Palsson ka...@tweak.net.au:

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 I like it.


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  Fyrir liggur tillaga frá Mateusz Konieczny um breytta liti á vegum.
 
  Dæmi um höfuðborgarsvæðið:
 
 https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/899988/9209076/163e17f2-4075-11e5-8024-ee02e5e1e427.png
 
  Stærstu breytingarnar eru að tertiary verður hvítur en aðeins breiðari
  heldur en residential og unclassified, secondary tekur gula litinn sem
  tertiary hafði, primary tekur appelsínugula frá secondary og trunk
  (hringvegurinn) verður rauður en var áður grænn.
 
  Hægt er að skoða fleiri dæmi og senda inn athugasemdir á github síðunni:
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dividing houses with returns as terrace (Brian Hollinshead)

2015-08-12 Thread Conor
Hi again Brian,

On re-reading your question I see it wasn't so much a question on how
to divide terraces for interest of including returns, so much as how
to deal with dividing terraces where somebody else has already
included extra returns.

So my guide may not have much use for this question, apologies.
Hopefully the tips are useful to anyone else who wants to improve
building accuracy.

To re-answer your question, perhaps emphasising that those including
returns etc. take the time to correctly divide buildings at the time
as it's easier to do so then than after. I know this isn't the most
practical of answers but would be a good approach to follow in the
future.

Also apologies this isn't following the original thread on the
archive. I've only got the digest version and can't see an option to
reply to the original message other than manually placing it in the
subject line (which didn't work for the archive it seems)

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église

2015-08-12 Thread Marc Gemis
2015-08-12 8:42 GMT+02:00 David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr:

 Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :

 Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points
 géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit?


 Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense que
 l’existant.


On peut mettre ça dans http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/

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[Talk-br] Ajuda para georreferenciar imagem

2015-08-12 Thread Severin Menard
Ola Vitor,

Pode usar esse serviço para criar facilmente um tms com o mapa que obteu :
http://mapwarper.net/

Abraço,

Severin

Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:07:13 -0300
 From: Vítor Rodrigo Dias vitor.d...@gmail.com
 To: LD OpenStreetMap Brasil - talk-br talk-br@openstreetmap.org
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 Prezados,

 Consegui junto à Prefeitura de Contagem um mapa em PDF com os limites de
 bairros da cidade e suas regiões administrativas, com permissão para uso
 dos dados no OSM. Gostaria de pedir a ajuda do pessoal aqui no
 georreferenciamento do mapa, pois o arquivo contém coordenadas de
 referência. Seguem em anexo os mapas em PDF e JPG.

 O link da imagem está em

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7kc_JOieZNvRHU5N0RmXzRjaTdJZHFJdEtPUHItVTI0bzlv/view?usp=docslist_api
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Re: [Talk-br] Ajuda para georreferenciar imagem

2015-08-12 Thread Peter Krauss
Oi Vitor Rodrigo, posso aproveitar a sua iniciativa para engatar outra que
ficou pendente, de explicitar as permissões aqui para o OSM?
Aquela coisa das licenças de uso por um lado, e da *confiabilidade*
de *certificação
de origem* do outro.
... Acabo de preparar um github com o seu material,

https://github.com/ppKrauss/osmPreparoOriginais

Já usou o git?  Pode criar o seu, que seria até mais interessante, ficando
toda a sua contribuição no seu nome.

PS: vejamos se alguém por aqui dá mais alguma dica antes de continuarmos.





Em 12 de agosto de 2015 10:07, Vítor Rodrigo Dias vitor.d...@gmail.com
escreveu:

 Prezados,

 Consegui junto à Prefeitura de Contagem um mapa em PDF com os limites de
 bairros da cidade e suas regiões administrativas, com permissão para uso
 dos dados no OSM. Gostaria de pedir a ajuda do pessoal aqui no
 georreferenciamento do mapa, pois o arquivo contém coordenadas de
 referência. Seguem em anexo os mapas em PDF e JPG.

 O link da imagem está em
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7kc_JOieZNvRHU5N0RmXzRjaTdJZHFJdEtPUHItVTI0bzlv/view?usp=docslist_api.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)

2015-08-12 Thread dHuy Pierre
@osmsanspourriel: le code ident correspond pour les aéroports à la référence 
ICAO: par exemple L représente l'Europe de l'Ouest, le LF recouvre tous les 
aéroports de France Métropolitaine. LFP pour l'île de France...Une autre norme 
internationnale est IATA. Les deux sont supportés dans la doc sur osmwiki.Juste 
en passant avec mes 5 cents à moi, il existe des bases complètes fournies par 
les aéroports et libre d'accès à tous avec toutes les pistes, les hangars, les 
zones militaires... On appelle ça le chart de l'aéroport. Y figure: coordonnées 
précises, couloir d'approche, service disponible, plan détaillé... etc 


 Le Mercredi 12 août 2015 10h00, Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com 
a écrit :
   

 OurAirports à déjà était importé.

My 2 cents.


Le 12/08/2015 00:06, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :
 Bonjour, on va simplifier :
 alors que le titre semblait indiquer que ourairports était
 américano-américain, il est en fait mondial et en données versées au
 domaine public.
 J'ai fait un comparatif qui semble parler de lui-même :


     OurAirports     OpenFlights
 License     *public domain* souhaitent mais n'exigent pas d'être cités
     OBdL/commercial
 Entrées     *46 516*     8 107
 Position     lat, lon, ele     lat, lon, ele (en pieds)
 latitude     latitude_deg     lat
 longitude     longitude_deg     lon
 altitude     elevation_ft     ele_ft

     
     
 *Type*     ballonport
 heliport
 seaplane_base

 small_airport
 medium_airport
 large_airport

 closed     -

     
     
 Dénomination     
     
 name:en     name     
 localité     couple ville principale/commune du site
 quelques vides     city= ville principale
 name=commune locale ou lieu-dit
 continent     oui     -
 pays     iso_country     country
 état/région     iso_region     -

     
     
 Référence     
     
 3 alpha (iata)     iata_code     iata
 4 alpha (icao)     gps_code     icao
 4-7 alpha     ident     
 code local/nationalde l'aéroport     local_code     

     
     
 wikipedia:en     *wikipedia_link*     
 website     *home_link*     

     
     
 Divers     
     
 scheduled_service     indique si les vols sont préprogrammés     -
 fuseau horaire     -     oui, mais heure d'été sujette à caution dans certains
 états


 Voici ce que ça donne sur un degré carré :

 OpenFlightID     Name     City     Country     iata     icao     Lat     Lon  
    AltitudeFt
 Timezone     DSTtype     TimezoneName
 1403     Guipavas     Brest     France     BES     LFRB     48,447911     
 -4,418539
 325     1     E     Europe/Paris
 1411     Landivisiau     Landivisiau     France     
     LFRJ     48,530258     -4,151642     348     1     E     Europe/Paris
 1413     Poulmic     Lanvedoc     France     
     LFRL     48,281703     -4,445017     287     1     E     Europe/Paris


 Aucun héliport, une erreur dans le nom d'une ville (Lanvéoc),
 localisation moins précise que ci-dessous.

 ident     type     name     latitude_deg     longitude_deg     elevation_ft
 continent     iso_country     iso_region     municipality     
 scheduled_service
 gps_code     iata_code     local_code     home_link     wikipedia_link     
 keywords
 FR-0046     heliport     Amirauté Heliport     48,3805542     -4,49166679     
 8     EU
 FR     FR-E     Brest     no     
     
     
     
     
     
 FR-0053     heliport     La Cavale Blanche Centre Hospitalier Heliport
 48,40353012     -4,52956676     121     EU     FR     FR-E     Brest     no   
   
     
     
     
     
     
 *LFRB*     *medium_airport*     *Brest Bretagne Airport*     *48,44789886*
 *-4,41854*     *325*     *EU*     *FR*     *FR-E*     *Brest/Guipavas*     
 *yes*     *LFRB*
 *BES*     *
 *     *
 *     *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest_Bretagne_Airport*
 *LFRJ*     *medium_airport*     *Landivisiau Air Base*     *48,53030014*
 *-4,15163994*     *348*     *EU*     *FR*     *FR-E*     *Landivisiau*     
 *no*     *LFRJ*
 *LDV*     *
 *     *
 *     *
 *     *
 *
 *LFRL*     *medium_airport*     *Lanvéoc-Poulmic Air Base*     *48,28170013*
 *-4,4450202*     *287*     *EU*     *FR*     *FR-E*     *Lanvéoc/Poulmic*     
 *no*     *LFRL*     *
 *     *
 *     *
 *     *
 *     *
 *

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     


 Sachant que OpenStreeMap trouve 6 héliports.

 Se pose la question de la meilleure façon de rapprocher les données.
 Est-ce que vous savez à quoi ident correspondrait sur OpenStreeMap ? ça
 ressemble à une référence internationale.

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Re: [Talk-is] Tillaga að nýjum götulitum

2015-08-12 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson

Þann 12.08.2015 12:43, Thorir Jonsson reit:

Þetta lítur vel út. Þetta er fyrir Mapnik renderinguna á osm.is
[5] er það ekki?


Þetta er ekki að okkar undirlagi en er fyrir Mapnik (nú CartoCSS) 
renderingu á OpenStreetMap.org sem osm.is notar beint.



Ef þið eru að gera breytingar á því væri gaman að sjá
renderingu á aeroway=marking líka. Ég er búinn að vera að gera
smá tilrauna verkefni með að nýta OpenStreetmap í vinnunni (hjá
Tern Systems - tern.is [6]) og til prufu bætti ég inn taginu
aeroway=marking til að geta kortlagt merkingar á flug- og akbrautum
á flugvöllum. Ég notaði Reykjavíkur flugvöll til að prófa
þetta og það væri gaman að sjá hvernig þetta kæmi út í
Mapnik renderingu.


Frábært að fá þetta sjónarhorn, það liggur fyrir tillaga um að sýna 
minni flugvelli ekki jafn snemma og nú er gert (grasbalar birtast jafn 
stórir og alþjóðaflugvellir) samkvæmt þessu: 
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1734


Varðandi það að sýna merkingar þá er það eitthvað sem mætti senda inn 
sem pull request, einhverjir CSS snillingar sem vilja kíkja á CartoCSS.


Ég sjálfur var að prófa að nota OSM tengt vinnunni, og því er nú hægt að 
skoða klósettlosunarstaði á landinu 
http://www.ust.is/library/Skrar/Kort/kort-seyrulosun.html



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[Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH

2015-08-12 Thread George Silva
Hello everyone,

I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to improve
the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded effort.

I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a foreigner
and not being on Toronto.

The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area.

More details, please contact Darren Jones, at dar...@crosspathsolutions.com

Thanks

-- 
George R. C. Silva
Sigma Geosistemas LTDA

http://www.sigmageosistemas.com.br/
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Re: [OSM-ja] opening_hoursの書式

2015-08-12 Thread ribbon
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 07:18:13PM +0900, tomoya muramoto wrote:
 muramotoです。
 
 ご意見ありがとうございます。
 
 献血ルームでは、営業時間や開店時間といった表記はなく、受付時間しか明記されていないと思います。
 (例:新宿東口献血ルーム https://www.tokyo.bc.jrc.or.jp/rooms/roomhp/room15.html)

そのようですね。

 (1)この場合、opening_hoursには何の時間を指定すべきでしょうか。

受け付けたあと、最終的にいつ終わるかはその時の状況次第なので、
終了時間は書いてないのかな。まあ終了時間に来ても対応出来ない
から、と言う気はします。

1つの考え方ですが、opening_hoursはやはり受付時間(新宿東口
だったら10:00-18:30)にしておくのが良いのではないかと思います。

たとえば、多くの銀行だと、15:00にカウンタ部分のシャッターが閉まりますよね。
でも、15:00直前に来た人は、シャッターが閉まったあとでも中にいて、
手続きを待っていたりしています。中は15:00きっかりに終わるわけではないです。
ですので、献血ルームも、18:30(上記の例)で受け付け終了=閉店と考え、
その直前に来た人は、閉店後、献血が終わるまで対応してもらっている、
と考えるというのはどうでしょうか。

 (2)私は成分献血ばかりしているので、成分献血の受付時間を知りたいと思うのですが、それに適したタグはないと考えてよいでしょうか。(noteに記述する程度?)

たぶん、専用のタグは無いのではないかと思います。

 なお、opening_hoursのwikiページ(
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours)に
 *opening_hours*=06:00-23:00 open Dining in || 00:00-24:00 open
 Drive-through
 という例があったので、前記の書き方を思いつきました。

なるほど。いろいろ書けるんですね。

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[Talk-es] Para Óscar Mapas

2015-08-12 Thread APEDELAP
 

 

 

HOLA
Muchas gracias por tu pronta respuesta. Baje los mapas de Francia pero cuando 
quiero abrir los ZIP una ventana que se abre dice , El archivo tiene un formato 
desconocido o esta dañado.

Hector Horacio Calvo

El ago. 11, 2015 8:26 PM, Óscar Zorrilla Alonso oscar_zorri...@hotmail.com 
escribió:

Hola;

 

Prueba a bajarlos de aquí: http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/descargas.php

 

Una vez bajados y copiados a la SD, le tienes que decir al GPS que mapas vas a 
usar.

http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/use_es.php#use_gps

 

un saludo

Óscar

 

 

 


De: Hector Calvo
Enviado: miércoles, 12 de agosto de 2015 1:17
Para: talk-es@openstreetmap.org
Asunto: [Talk-es] Mapas

 

 

Dias pasados baje partes  de mapas de Italia y Francia en una mini SD al GPS 
garmin nuvi 1490 pero no los lee, pienso que tal vez algun archivo no lo bajo 
correctamente?
Atentamente Hector desde Argentina

 

 


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Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?

2015-08-12 Thread Luca Moiana
Grazie,
la differenza ora è chiara, nel mio paese, Cislago, i binari sono 2 con un 
terzo di manovra, perciò è Station?
Per quelle successive Turate, Mozzate non so. 
L

 On 12/ago/2015, at 16:48, Alessandro Chiostri alech.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Una linea ferroviaria può avere anche un solo binario (p.e. la Porrettana 
 oppure la Fortezza-Dobbiaco)
 Ma non è solo questo a determinare la differenza tra stazione e fermata.
 Se ci sono scambi in stazione (binario morto o )immediatamente prima e dopo 
 (precedenze)
 questi devono essere mantenuti (costi) , segnalati (costi) e operati dal 
 personale di stazione (costi ) .
 In una politica di risparmio, tutto viene tagliato semplificando al massimo:
 il binario diventa singolo (impossibili le precedenze tra treni opposti) per 
 km prima e dopo il marciapiede,
 il convoglio debe solo arrivare, fermarsi, ripartire come un tram.
 La stazione viene degradata a fermata.
 Prendete ad esempio tutte le intermedie tra Pistoia e Pracchia, dove gli 
 altri binari esistono ancora ma non solo collegati alla linea da scambi,
 il fabbricato viaggiatori  è vuoto, niente biglietteria, niente posto di 
 manovra.
 Anche su linee a doppio binario si può parlare di fermata:
 ad esempio Castiglioncello sulla tirrenica non è presidiata,
 non si sono scambi per chilometri prima e dopo,
 anichè doppio binario diventano due binari singoli a senso unico.
 
 Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:30, Elena ``of Valhalla'' 
 elena.valha...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 On 2015-08-12 at 07:16:05 +, Luca Moiana wrote:
  curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che 
  alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre 
  railway halt. Che differenza c'è?
  Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, 
  mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali.
 
 ferrovie locali? dici le nord? (ormai i treni che circolano lì e sulle
 linee regionali dello stato sono gli stessi)
 
 tra malnate e laveno le nord hanno un binario solo; se non ricordo male
 molte stazioni intermedie hanno anche loro un solo binario, e quindi
 la cosa corrisponderebbe con quanto scritto nell'altra mail (switch è
 lo scambio, vero?)
 
 non ricordo quali, oltre ovviamente a Varese dovrebbero esserci più
 binari a Gavirate, ma per le altre dovrei andare apposta a controllare.
 
 --
 Elena ``of Valhalla''
 
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[Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati

2015-08-12 Thread dani rijeka
(newbie alert)

Buongiorno,

Se le tracce GPS caricate su OSM discordano da una sorgente dati certa e
georeferenziata come la Carta Tecnica Provinciale disponibile in CC-BY
(seppur leggermente, soprattutto mancanza di dettagli fini come due
tornanti di un sentiero trasformati in una linea retta, o una scorciatoia
presa come traccia del sentiero ufficiale), è accettabile inserire
dettagli che risultano dalla Carta ma non dalle tracce GPS?

Grazie

(la licenza della CTP di Trento è verificabile qui:
http://www.territorio.provincia.tn.it/portal/server.pt/community/carta_tecnica_provinciale/920/carta_tecnica_provinciale/40052)
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Re: [Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati

2015-08-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
le tracce non contengono altro che coordinate e tempi (timestamps), non 
contengono dettagli ecc. ma sono registrazioni dove qualcuno si ha mosso con un 
gps in mano. Per trarre maggior senso dalle tracce devono essere le tue ;-)

invece le CTR sono generalizzazioni in scala 5000/1, fatte secondo delle 
normative (contengono certe cose ed altre no), ecc


ciao 
Martin
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Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?

2015-08-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

 Am 12.08.2015 um 21:13 schrieb Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com:
 
 i binari sono 2 con un terzo di manovra, perciò è Station?


si. manovra=station


ciao 
Martin 
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