Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?
Una linea ferroviaria può avere anche un solo binario (p.e. la Porrettana oppure la Fortezza-Dobbiaco) Ma non è solo questo a determinare la differenza tra stazione e fermata. Se ci sono scambi in stazione (binario morto o )immediatamente prima e dopo (precedenze) questi devono essere mantenuti (costi) , segnalati (costi) e operati dal personale di stazione (costi ) . In una politica di risparmio, tutto viene tagliato semplificando al massimo: il binario diventa singolo (impossibili le precedenze tra treni opposti) per km prima e dopo il marciapiede, il convoglio debe solo arrivare, fermarsi, ripartire come un tram. La stazione viene degradata a fermata. Prendete ad esempio tutte le intermedie tra Pistoia e Pracchia, dove gli altri binari esistono ancora ma non solo collegati alla linea da scambi, il fabbricato viaggiatori è vuoto, niente biglietteria, niente posto di manovra. Anche su linee a doppio binario si può parlare di fermata: ad esempio Castiglioncello sulla tirrenica non è presidiata, non si sono scambi per chilometri prima e dopo, anichè doppio binario diventano due binari singoli a senso unico. Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:30, Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 2015-08-12 at 07:16:05 +, Luca Moiana wrote: curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway halt. Che differenza c'è? Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali. ferrovie locali? dici le nord? (ormai i treni che circolano lì e sulle linee regionali dello stato sono gli stessi) tra malnate e laveno le nord hanno un binario solo; se non ricordo male molte stazioni intermedie hanno anche loro un solo binario, e quindi la cosa corrisponderebbe con quanto scritto nell'altra mail (switch è lo scambio, vero?) non ricordo quali, oltre ovviamente a Varese dovrebbero esserci più binari a Gavirate, ma per le altre dovrei andare apposta a controllare. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] (osm: message 1 of 20) licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
@Frdric : cest parce que je ne vois pas systmatiquement les infos comme ICAO/IATA sur les aroports que jai cherch une source. Si il y a eu un import il y a eu des rats ou des personnes ont cass aprs. @Pierre : pas mal de sources globales ne sont plus accessibles, cest la raison dtre de ourAirports, et la raison de pas mal de liens casss sur Wikipedia. Jai effectivement vu le genre dinfos que tu indiques, mais pas dans un format exploitable facilement. Pour lident : niet, enfin si mais comme tu le dis pas pour les hliports. Doit-on mettre leur rfrence dans OSM et comment du coup ? Jean-Yvon Gesendet:Mittwoch, 12. August 2015 um 16:07 Uhr Von:dHuy Pierre - dh...@yahoo.fr osm.sanspourriel.57243696c9.dhuyp#yahoo...@ob.0sg.net An:Discussions sur OSM en franais talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Betreff:Re: [OSM-talk-fr] (osm: message 1 of 20) licence et rapprochement de donnes (PSS, OpenFlights) @osmsanspourriel: le code ident correspond pour les aroports la rfrence ICAO: par exemple L reprsente lEurope de lOuest, le LF recouvre tous les aroports de France Mtropolitaine. LFP pour lle de France... Une autre norme internationnale est IATA. Les deux sont supports dans la doc sur osmwiki. Juste en passant avec mes 5 cents moi, il existe des bases compltes fournies par les aroports et libre daccs tous avec toutes les pistes, les hangars, les zones militaires... On appelle a le chart de laroport. Y figure: coordonnes prcises, couloir dapproche, service disponible, plan dtaill... etc Le Mercredi 12 aot 2015 10h00, Frdric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com a crit : OurAirports dj tait import. My 2 cents. Le 12/08/2015 00:06, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a crit : Bonjour, on va simplifier : alors que le titre semblait indiquer que ourairports tait amricano-amricain, il est en fait mondial et en donnes verses au domaine public. Jai fait un comparatif qui semble parler de lui-mme : OurAirports OpenFlights License *public domain* souhaitent mais nexigent pas dtre cits OBdL/commercial Entres *46 516* 8 107 Position lat, lon, ele lat, lon, ele (en pieds) latitude latitude_deg lat longitude longitude_deg lon altitude elevation_ft ele_ft *Type* ballonport heliport seaplane_base small_airport medium_airport large_airport closed - Dnomination name:en name localit couple ville principale/commune du site quelques vides city= ville principale name=commune locale ou lieu-dit continent oui - pays iso_country country tat/rgion iso_region - Rfrence 3 alpha (iata) iata_code iata 4 alpha (icao) gps_code icao 4-7 alpha ident code local/nationalde laroport local_code wikipedia:en *wikipedia_link* website *home_link* Divers scheduled_service indique si les vols sont prprogramms - fuseau horaire - oui, mais heure dt sujette caution dans certains tats Voici ce que a donne sur un degr carr : OpenFlightID Name City Country iata icao Lat Lon AltitudeFt Timezone DSTtype TimezoneName 1403 Guipavas Brest France BES LFRB 48,447911 -4,418539 325 1 E Europe/Paris 1411 Landivisiau Landivisiau France LFRJ 48,530258 -4,151642 348 1 E Europe/Paris 1413 Poulmic Lanvedoc France LFRL 48,281703 -4,445017 287 1 E Europe/Paris Aucun hliport, une erreur dans le nom dune ville (Lanvoc), localisation moins prcise que ci-dessous. ident type name latitude_deg longitude_deg elevation_ft continent iso_country iso_region municipality scheduled_service gps_code iata_code local_code home_link wikipedia_link keywords FR-0046 heliport Amiraut Heliport 48,3805542 -4,49166679 8 EU FR FR-E Brest no FR-0053 heliport La Cavale Blanche Centre Hospitalier Heliport 48,40353012 -4,52956676 121 EU FR FR-E Brest no *LFRB* *medium_airport* *Brest Bretagne Airport* *48,44789886* *-4,41854* *325* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Brest/Guipavas* *yes* *LFRB* *BES* * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest_Bretagne_Airport* *LFRJ* *medium_airport* *Landivisiau Air Base* *48,53030014* *-4,15163994* *348* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Landivisiau* *no* *LFRJ* *LDV* * * * * * * * * *LFRL* *medium_airport* *Lanvoc-Poulmic Air Base* *48,28170013* *-4,4450202* *287* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Lanvoc/Poulmic* *no* *LFRL* * * * * * * * * * * Sachant que OpenStreeMap trouve 6 hliports. Se pose la question de la meilleure faon de rapprocher les donnes. Est-ce que vous savez quoi ident correspondrait sur OpenStreeMap ? a ressemble une rfrence internationale. Jean-Yvon ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM
Hola Guillermo. ¡Bienvenido! ¿Podrías poner un ejemplo concreto que no puedas solucionar con la documentación que ya hay en [1]? Quizá lo más oficial que hay al etiquetar una carretera es el código de la misma, que en OSM se pone con ref=... como en ref=N-120. Por otro lado, si la carretera tiene un nombre oficial, debe estar publicado en algun sitio. En [2] tienes algunas referencias donde se publican nombres oficiales. Este sería el nombre a poner con la etiqueta name= De forma más general, en [3] tienes como indicar nombres alternativos y traducciones a otros idiomas, con etiquetas como name:fr=..., name_1, name_2, etc. o alt_name [4]. También está official_name, pero sospecho que esta etiqueta no está tan extendida como name. Yo, por ejemplo, usaría name para poner el nombre oficial, siempre que este nombre sea conocido y de uso común, y sólo usaría official_name para el nombre oficial y name para el nombre común en caso de que el nombre oficial sea totalmente desconocido y el común sea extremadamente común. Supongo que con estas etiquetas tienes bastantes opciones sin tener que inventar ninguna más. A estas alturas del proyecto OSM el problema no suele ser que falten etiquetas, sino que hay múltiples formas de hacer etiquetados válidos con las etiquetas existentes. En cualquier caso, algunas reglas básicas son: usa el sentido común (esta es tan bonita como inutil), etiqueta de forma uniforme con el entorno, lee mucha documentación. Un saludo. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Normalizaci%C3%B3n#V.C3.ADas_interurbanas [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Normalizaci%C3%B3n#Clasificaci.C3.B3n_seg.C3.BAn_la_Comunidad_Aut.C3.B3noma [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:alt_name El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:16, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez ludovic...@gmail.com escribió: Hola Lo que estoy viendo es que existen carreteras en las que la denominación oficial es diferente a la que te puedas encontrar en los carteles de las carreteras-señales de puntos kilométricos, y por eso me preguntaba si se podría crear un tag para poner la denominación oficial sin que esto supusiera un engorro para el resto de usuarios Un saludo El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:08, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando. Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También puede que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y de nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble. Un saludo El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez ludovic...@gmail.com escribió: Buenos días a todos Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta surgiendo una duda con los tags - Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es: carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria... - Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera. Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo, el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no requiere la aprobación de los mismos Un saludo ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Jorge Juan Telegram.me/JorgeJuan https://telegram.me/JorgeJuan ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH
Check out: http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD It's their open data portal which also includes the building address shapefile(not sure how accurate this is, I know Ottawa's has about 30% errors (overlapping duplicate nodes, misplaced nodes)) Address shape file(can be open in JOSM with opendata plugin): http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=91415f9cd70bb210VgnVCM103dd60f89RCRDvgnextchannel=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD But in the data portal there's all sort of information, paths, etc On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:34 AM, George Silva georger.si...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to improve the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded effort. I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a foreigner and not being on Toronto. The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area. More details, please contact Darren Jones, at dar...@crosspathsolutions.com Thanks -- George R. C. Silva Sigma Geosistemas LTDA http://www.sigmageosistemas.com.br/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- 外に遊びに行こう! ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015
Io conto di partecipare, a meno di impegni imprevisti e non prorogabili. Ho visto che è previsto anche un evento serale , riguardando il thread non mi sembra di aver visto nulla, di cosa si tratta? Per quanto riguarda gli argomenti da trattare ho visto che un argomento inserito nel programma era lo 'stato della mappa', siccome avevo notato la pagina wiki dell'Umbria praticamente vuota da dicembre scorso mi sono messo ad arricchirla, in particolar modo ho lavorato sullo stato della mappa (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Umbria_Stato), prendendo spunto dalle statistiche che erano sul sito GFOSS ma che non vengono più aggiornate da settembre 2013. Se non c'è di meglio e può interessare qualcuno posso dire qualcosa a proposito. Ciao Marcello Il 12/08/2015 09:44, Michele Mondelli ha scritto: Salve a tutti. Riporto agli onori della cronaca la discussione su OSMit 2015. Ho notato che su http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:OSMit2015 siamo ancora segnati in due per l'evento! Se ci sono persone che sanno di venire e soprattutto di poter contribuire con un talk o che hanno una proposta su cosa fare a livello pratico durante OSMit, segnatevi! Inutile che vi dica che riuscire a decidere il prima possibile il programma dell'evento ci permette di pubblicizzarlo al meglio. Vi dico intanto che all'università si sono resi disponibili ad organizzare iniziative con gli studenti, ed a partecipare attivamente all'iniziativa. Ovviamente adesso sono tutti in vacanza, ma subito a fine agosto li risento. Vorrei potergli dare maggiori informazioni su come sarà strutturato l'evento, di cosa si parlerà, cosa faremo, ecc. . . -- /Michele Mondelli/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and SOAP? (which I cannot get JOSM to accept). Just to comment on this one point: As a federal agency, the USDA is *required* to support the open standard option of the WMS service type, so it *should* be available. In looking at all the different state NAIP imagery sets listed in their directory here: http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP, every single other state lists the WMS option, so it's clearly an error that South Carolina is missing it. Hopefully the service maintainers will catch on and correct soon, but if you or others have a contact it is worth an email to make them aware, both of the mistake, and of the customer base for the open standard option. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 8/12/2015 5:15 PM, Jonah Adkins wrote: you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM using this link * http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x} http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D * That worked for me as a TMS service in JOSM. Thanks! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati
Il 12/ago/2015 19:46, dani rijeka danirijeka.l...@gmail.com ha scritto: (newbie alert) Buongiorno, Se le tracce GPS caricate su OSM discordano da una sorgente dati certa e georeferenziata come la Carta Tecnica Provinciale disponibile in CC-BY (seppur leggermente, soprattutto mancanza di dettagli fini come due tornanti di un sentiero trasformati in una linea retta, o una scorciatoia presa come traccia del sentiero ufficiale), è accettabile inserire dettagli che risultano dalla Carta ma non dalle tracce GPS? Grazie Io mapperei quello che c'è nella realtà e che chiunque altro può verificare. Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[talk-ph] PH imagery at openaerialmap.org
UAV imagery over tacloban and eastern samar now available at openaerialmap.org [0] Due to bandwidth limitations, we resorted to using the f2f sneakernet [1] ;) [0] https://developmentseed.org/blog/2015/08/12/post-disaster-imagery/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [Talk-at] Deklination
Nein, habe auch keinen besseren Wert. Am 11.08.2015 11:54 nachm. schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: On 11.08.2015 21:14, Andreas wrote: weiß nicht, ob ich dich richtig verstanden habe. Aber eine lange gerade Straße, die früher schon als Referenz verwendet wurde ist die Neunkirchner Allee zwischen Wr. Neustadt und Neunkirchen. An die habe ich schon ebenso gedacht wie an die Prater-Hauptallee, aber beide haben einen unrunden Azimut, z.B. die Neunkirchner Allee hat 52,1° (bzw. 232,1°) lt. NÖ-GIS, und da weiß ich nicht mal sicher, ob das stimmt. Hast du vielleicht einen genauen Wert? Der Verkehr ist ebenfalls störend, aber man kann sich natürlich auf einen der Parkplätze stellen und entlang des Banketts messen. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Graz+Innsbruck: »Schiene und Straße wurden getrennt«
Hallo, User Weltstaat hat gestern und heute in Graz+Innsbruck einen Teil des Straßenbahnnetzes vom Straßennetz separiert. Dabei wurden – soweit ich das gesehen habe und entgegen früheren vergleichbaren Aktionen in Innsbruck – die ÖPNV-Relationen angepasst. Allerdings liegen manche Schienenstränge direkt auf/unter den Straßen und nutzen die gleichen Nodes [1]. Dies erschwert einerseits die Bearbeitung, weil man nur mehr mühsam den richtigen der beiden Wege selektieren kann. Andererseits erscheint es mir konzeptuell falsch: wenn man diese Variante verfolgt, dann müssen Straße und Schiene völlig unabhängig voneinander gemappt werden und dürfen keine gemeinsame Nodes haben. Mit einem weinenden Auge blicke ich auf die zu Anfangszeiten schön abstrahierten Straßenzüge zurück, aber der Zahn der Zeit lässt sich wohl nicht aufhalten – oder doch? Grüße aus Tirol! Simon [1] z.B. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26187127 und https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/365330155 ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
From the USGS help, it appears that there is some delay. http://www.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9861/3655 I spot checked some places in SC, and it looks like it isn't using the latest NAIP yet. So I would find the ability to always use the latest NAIP to be useful. Hopefully it wouldn't be hard to set up as a new layer. On 8/12/2015 5:01 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Last I checked the latest and greatest NAIP is included in the USGS's large scale imagery layer, which is tiled and cached on the OSM US tile server. I don't have a layer specific to the latest NAIP-only imagery, though. Is that something you're interested in? On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net mailto:nice...@att.net wrote: Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed. Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and SOAP? (which I cannot get JOSM to accept). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH
Hey everyone, During the winter/spring I was updating the PATH when I was frequently taking it to/from home, but I've taken a break since it's nice outside (I hope that's understandable!). The PATH is a bit of a beast to update because it's invisible to imagery and GPS and, in many parts, poorly signed. Although the challenge of mapping from memory is part of the fun for me :) George Darren, what are the main things you're looking to have us add? Is the biggest priority for you the detailed footways, access points, and the proper connections between the two (elevators, steps, escalators)? I'm guessing shops are of secondary importance to the wayfinding/routing portion of the app? Thanks, -Kevin F (Kevo) On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM, James james2...@gmail.com wrote: Check out: http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD It's their open data portal which also includes the building address shapefile(not sure how accurate this is, I know Ottawa's has about 30% errors (overlapping duplicate nodes, misplaced nodes)) Address shape file(can be open in JOSM with opendata plugin): http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=91415f9cd70bb210VgnVCM103dd60f89RCRDvgnextchannel=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD But in the data portal there's all sort of information, paths, etc On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:34 AM, George Silva georger.si...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to improve the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded effort. I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a foreigner and not being on Toronto. The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area. More details, please contact Darren Jones, at dar...@crosspathsolutions.com Thanks -- George R. C. Silva Sigma Geosistemas LTDA http://www.sigmageosistemas.com.br/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- 外に遊びに行こう! ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH
Hello Kevin, The main thing is indeed the many entrances that the PATH has. We have some of that mapped (indicated) over some maps, that might help. Talk to Darren, so he and his associate can decide the best way to proceed. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, During the winter/spring I was updating the PATH when I was frequently taking it to/from home, but I've taken a break since it's nice outside (I hope that's understandable!). The PATH is a bit of a beast to update because it's invisible to imagery and GPS and, in many parts, poorly signed. Although the challenge of mapping from memory is part of the fun for me :) George Darren, what are the main things you're looking to have us add? Is the biggest priority for you the detailed footways, access points, and the proper connections between the two (elevators, steps, escalators)? I'm guessing shops are of secondary importance to the wayfinding/routing portion of the app? Thanks, -Kevin F (Kevo) On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM, James james2...@gmail.com wrote: Check out: http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD It's their open data portal which also includes the building address shapefile(not sure how accurate this is, I know Ottawa's has about 30% errors (overlapping duplicate nodes, misplaced nodes)) Address shape file(can be open in JOSM with opendata plugin): http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=91415f9cd70bb210VgnVCM103dd60f89RCRDvgnextchannel=1a66e03bb8d1e310VgnVCM1071d60f89RCRD But in the data portal there's all sort of information, paths, etc On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:34 AM, George Silva georger.si...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to improve the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded effort. I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a foreigner and not being on Toronto. The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area. More details, please contact Darren Jones, at dar...@crosspathsolutions.com Thanks -- George R. C. Silva Sigma Geosistemas LTDA http://www.sigmageosistemas.com.br/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- 外に遊びに行こう! ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- George R. C. Silva Sigma Geosistemas LTDA http://www.sigmageosistemas.com.br/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
I’ve used the NAIP imagery to confirm the existence/absence of something, since it’s often more recent than the BING imagery. I had used the WMS servers in JOSM, but having specific access to just that dataset would be handy. Darrell On Aug 12, 2015, at 14:01, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Last I checked the latest and greatest NAIP is included in the USGS's large scale imagery layer, which is tiled and cached on the OSM US tile server. I don't have a layer specific to the latest NAIP-only imagery, though. Is that something you're interested in? On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net mailto:nice...@att.net wrote: Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed. Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and SOAP? (which I cannot get JOSM to accept). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
On 8/12/2015 5:51 PM, TC Haddad wrote: Just to comment on this one point: As a federal agency, the USDA is *required* to support the open standard option of the WMS service type, so it *should* be available. In looking at all the different state NAIP imagery sets listed in their directory here: http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP, every single other state lists the WMS option, so it's clearly an error that South Carolina is missing it. Hopefully the service maintainers will catch on and correct soon, but if you or others have a contact it is worth an email to make them aware, both of the mistake, and of the customer base for the open standard option. It might be that it is still at some review or implementation stage and they haven't generated WMS yet. I'll keep an eye on it and contact them if it doesn't show up eventually. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
it creates a redirect with a correct tile scheme because most ArcGIS services don't follow normal tiling schemes when they are created - source code @ https://github.com/gisinc/arcgis-level-fixer On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Jonah, does this redirect to an /export URL or does it do any caching of the resulting image (so as to reduce load on the server)? On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jonah Adkins jonahadk...@gmail.com wrote: you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM using this link *http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x} http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D* On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed. Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and SOAP? (which I cannot get JOSM to accept). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Thanks, Jonah jonah adkins newport news, virginia ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Thanks, Jonah jonah adkins newport news, virginia ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM using this link *http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x} http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D* On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed. Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and SOAP? (which I cannot get JOSM to accept). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Thanks, Jonah jonah adkins newport news, virginia ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
Jonah, does this redirect to an /export URL or does it do any caching of the resulting image (so as to reduce load on the server)? On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jonah Adkins jonahadk...@gmail.com wrote: you can use the SC Image Service as a custom background in iD or JOSM using this link *http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/{z}/y/{y}/x/{x} http://arcgis-level-fixer.elasticbeanstalk.com/http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer/arcgis/z/%7Bz%7D/y/%7By%7D/x/%7Bx%7D* On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed. Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and SOAP? (which I cannot get JOSM to accept). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Thanks, Jonah jonah adkins newport news, virginia ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for Default Map style - pull requested is opened
Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at gmail.com writes: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736 - review of the code and comments are welcome. We have a great opportunity for a spot of promotion. Publish a post on our blog announcing the new style and explaining the reasoning behind it. Don’t forget to remind people that there’s a wide variety of map styles out there that you can even write your own style. -- Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-TW] 新人報到,遇到了有這樣觀念的家人....
公開的資訊你不畫自有人畫 在 2015年8月12日 下午5:33,clarkcabo clarkc...@yahoo.com.tw 寫道: 敝人開始接觸OSM約在1年多前,發現OSM上關於我住的鎮的資訊很少,像景點、店家、GOV或NGO機關單位...等等及新的道路,所以就有空就在OSM官網增修鎮上的圖資... 但是像因為我家是旅宿業,鎮上同業競爭激烈,其實那些同業的圖資位置在其的他電子地圖或導航軟硬體上大部份都有,在OSM上的資訊就很少,我還是盡量把鎮上那些大小新舊有在營業旅館/民宿標示在OSM上... 我媽知道了,很生氣說: 為什麼要幫別人(同業)打廣告?現在生意難做,你可以把那些同業資料都刪除嗎? 只留我們家開的就好了,讓使用你說的這個東西的外地遊客來鎮上要住宿時,只能找到我們家的民宿!... 我聽了真是無言..., 難道OSM曾經或可能發生故意(惡意)大量刪除競爭同業(如連鎖加盟業)的很多甚至全部的分店的圖資的情況,OSM有什麼方法處理這樣的狀況...? ___ Talk-TW mailing list Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw -- 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di | http://www.mcdlee.tw ___ Talk-TW mailing list Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
Re: [Talk-TW] 新人報到,遇到了有這樣觀念的家人....
先說我對目前OSM地圖狀況,以臺灣畫POI狀況來說,對一般人的參考價值不高 大多數人靠汽車導行或是Google地圖 對業者來說會用Google Map Maker還比較實用 回到原po的問題 如同昕迪講的,公開的東西都會有人畫 以我來說出去玩稍微畫去的景點,住的旅舍 如果有大量刪除的狀況,有工具能夠一次回復 不用擔心對OSM會怎樣 Dennis 2015-08-13 8:06 GMT+08:00 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di mcd...@gmail.com: 公開的資訊你不畫自有人畫 在 2015年8月12日 下午5:33,clarkcabo clarkc...@yahoo.com.tw 寫道: 敝人開始接觸OSM約在1年多前,發現OSM上關於我住的鎮的資訊很少,像景點、店家、GOV或NGO機關單位...等等及新的道路,所以就有空就在OSM官網增修鎮上的圖資... 但是像因為我家是旅宿業,鎮上同業競爭激烈,其實那些同業的圖資位置在其的他電子地圖或導航軟硬體上大部份都有,在OSM上的資訊就很少,我還是盡量把鎮上那些大小新舊有在營業旅館/民宿標示在OSM上... 我媽知道了,很生氣說: 為什麼要幫別人(同業)打廣告?現在生意難做,你可以把那些同業資料都刪除嗎? 只留我們家開的就好了,讓使用你說的這個東西的外地遊客來鎮上要住宿時,只能找到我們家的民宿!... 我聽了真是無言..., 難道OSM曾經或可能發生故意(惡意)大量刪除競爭同業(如連鎖加盟業)的很多甚至全部的分店的圖資的情況,OSM有什麼方法處理這樣的狀況...? ___ Talk-TW mailing list Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw -- 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di | http://www.mcdlee.tw ___ Talk-TW mailing list Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw ___ Talk-TW mailing list Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
[Talk-in] Mapping workshop at Kozhikode Collectorate on Aug 14
There is a OSM mapping workshop being organized by Gopinath from Blue Yonder with the help of Kozhikode district administration at the Collectorate tomorrow morning. The agenda is to train a volunteer mapping team of around 20 to be comfortable collecting data using various tools and mapping it on OpenStreetMap. I'll be in Kozhikode tomorrow whole day for this along with my team mate Pratik from Mapbox. For tomorrow we will map out the area around the Collectorate [1] in maximum detail using Mapillary and other mobile apps. This is part of a larger project to spread community mapping in Kerala. If there are any local mappers interested in attending and helping out, do get in touch with Gopi offthread asap. [1] https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox?compose=14f259b9b7bdf6b9 -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati
Ciao, On Thu, August 13, 2015 12:45 am, Francesco Pelullo wrote: Il 12/ago/2015 19:46, dani rijeka danirijeka.l...@gmail.com ha scritto: Se le tracce GPS caricate su OSM discordano da una sorgente dati certa e georeferenziata come la Carta Tecnica Provinciale disponibile in CC-BY (seppur leggermente, soprattutto mancanza di dettagli fini come due tornanti di un sentiero trasformati in una linea retta, o una scorciatoia presa come traccia del sentiero ufficiale), Nelle aree protette spesso è richiesto di seguire i sentieri ufficiali, perché tagliare le curve crea tracce che poi guidano lo scorrimento d'acqua con conseguente maggiore erosione e danni all'ecosistema, quindi andrei cauto prima di suggerire scorciatoie inserendole in una mappa. È accettabile inserire dettagli che risultano dalla Carta ma non dalle tracce GPS? Io mapperei quello che c'è nella realtà e che chiunque altro può verificare. Il concetto di realtà è totalmente astratto e in quanto tale inadatto a decidere cosa inserire in una mappa e cosa no. I toponimi, i confini amministrativi... sono reali? Se in mezzo alla strada c'è realmente un sasso, devo mapparlo? Se la traccia di una scorciatoia è realmente evidente e sempre più profonda perché sta diventando un ruscello, ma i gestori naturalistici della zona stanno tentando di arginare il danno e far ricrescere la vegetazione, chiedendo la collaborazione a tutti perché non la si calpesti, dobbiamo segnarla come sentiero? Il problema è che si dovrebbe conoscere quello che si inserisce, solo così si può sapere cosa è rilevante e cosa no, se il raddrizzamento di una curva dipende da una momentanea defaiance della registrazione GPS o dalla necessità di evitare una frana, se la scorciatoia rimasta sulle tracce GPS è stata presa per evitare un animale selvatico oppure il sentiero si è modificato per la crescita della vegetazione... Non potendo andare sul posto e volendo comunque mappare la zona... si è costretti a scegliere quale sia la fonte più affidabile. -- http://bodrato.it/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
Frederik Ramm writes: Hi, On 08/11/2015 07:09 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: If you have ever said delete things you don't see, then you need to shut the hell up, because you are making the map worse. Just stop! Delete things you don't see (with some notable exceptions, abandoned railways not being among them). Yep. You're one of the people who needs to shut the hell up. I wasn't going to name names -- thank you for fingering yourself as one of the guilty parties. Thanks for your cooperation in ceasing this practice, I really appreciate your help. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] Fwd: Position Vacant - On Line Cartogropher
If you fancy working with maps. Please share to those who might be interested. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Cupitt m...@thebrainhub.net Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:57 PM Subject: Position Vacant - On Line Cartogropher To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Hi Maning, long time no hear I have a position vacant in my Cebu Office (Ayala) for an on-line cartographer. Basically it is making proprietary on-line maps from a variety of sources Specific Software skills are not important, but what is important is a love of maps, attention to detail, ability to show up to work, team orientated and able to work independently with minimal supervision Its a 5 day per week position, 6 months probation, excellent benefits package after probation, including HMO, 15 days sick and 15 days vacation leaves. The position would suit a young person who was very keen on maps but did not have a lot of experience. We do use ER mapper, but will train the right person in the software, most of our apps proprietary written in house. Feel free to pass around, it is a good opportunity for a young person interested in mapping. Starting is September 1st or later if they need to give 30 days notice. This is an international company, Swiss based .. Resume can be sent to brain...@thebrainhub.net, pdf preferred. Best Regards Mark Cupitt Manager -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?
Ciao, curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway halt. Che differenza c'è? Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali. grazie L ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015
Mi spiace un sacco per mille motivi (il primo di quelli è per aver contribuito affinchè osmit venisse portato avanti in questi anni), ma nelel date scelte proprio non ci posso essere. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église
Le 12/08/2015 10:27, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : Encore mieux d'après moi, c'est de mentionner la date de démolition directement dans le tag, comme je l'ai fait par exemple pour le changement de référence de ce quai : http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/283586749 Dans ton cas, en lieu et place de *amenity=place_of_worship* je mettrai donc *demolished:-2015_08_20:amenity=place_of_worship* (si la date de fin de démolition est bien le 20 août comme mentionné dans l'article de presse).* Mettre une valeur (la date) comme tag, et non comme...valeur de tag, c'est bancal, et assez inexploitable, non ? Les tags devraient rester aussi génériques que possible, aux valeurs de donner le détail. Ici, un demolition_date=2015_08_20 ou quelque chose dans le même genre aurait ma préférence (euphémisme). vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-es] Mapas
El 12/08/15 a las 01:16, Hector Calvo escribió: Dias pasados baje partes de mapas de Italia y Francia en una mini SD al GPS garmin nuvi 1490 pero no los lee, pienso que tal vez algun archivo no lo bajo correctamente? Atentamente Hector desde Argentina ¿Qué tipo de archivo has bajado? Los Garmin solo leen mapas que estén hechos en su formato de archivo. Los datos de OSM hay que convertirlos al formato de Garmin para poder usarlos en el GPS. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015
Salve a tutti. Riporto agli onori della cronaca la discussione su OSMit 2015. Ho notato che su http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:OSMit2015 siamo ancora segnati in due per l'evento! Se ci sono persone che sanno di venire e soprattutto di poter contribuire con un talk o che hanno una proposta su cosa fare a livello pratico durante OSMit, segnatevi! Inutile che vi dica che riuscire a decidere il prima possibile il programma dell'evento ci permette di pubblicizzarlo al meglio. Vi dico intanto che all'università si sono resi disponibili ad organizzare iniziative con gli studenti, ed a partecipare attivamente all'iniziativa. Ovviamente adesso sono tutti in vacanza, ma subito a fine agosto li risento. Vorrei potergli dare maggiori informazioni su come sarà strutturato l'evento, di cosa si parlerà, cosa faremo, ecc. A presto, Il giorno 15 giugno 2015 09:59, Michele Mondelli mithenks...@gmail.com ha scritto: Buongiorno a tutti. Colpevolmente con un po' di ritardo, cerco di tirare le somme della riunione di giovedì scorso. *Resoconto* La maggior parte della discussione è stata incentrata sulla possibilità, proposta da noi di Siena, di aprire OSMit. Ovvero, di creare alcune sessioni e interventi paralleli che abbiano come oggetto l'importanza, la centralità e la necessità di OSM in vari argomenti direttamente correlati. Mi sembra che sia emersa forte la necessità di lasciare la linea principale dell'evento come dedicata alla comunità. In questo senso, per parlare (e soprattutto fare) tra addetti ai lavori, per discutere dello stato della mappa, per avere un'occasione durante l'anno nella quale vedersi e lavorare di persona tra chi tutto l'anno si sente solo via internet. È anche però importante, soprattutto per cercare di allargare la platea di coloro che collaborano con OSM, di dedicare degli spazi a chi di OSM sa poco o nulla, a chi è curioso e vuole capire come collaborare, e anche a chi lavora e vuole scoprire come utilizzare OSM a livello professionale. Cercando quindi di fare una sintesi, io proporrei: - una linea principale, il vero e proprio OSMit 2015, con interventi e laboratori dedicati alla comunità; - dei temi ed interventi di contorno, che analizzino le declinazioni di OSM in varie tematiche (come ad esempio il business, la ricerca, o semplicemente un introduzione per chi non sa cosa sia). Ovviamente le due linee, se così possiamo definirle, non sarebbero in competizione, in quanto dedicate a platee molto diverse. In questo modo io credo si possano raggiungere due scopi importanti: - avere un momento di incontro e confronto della comunità, nel quale discutere e lavorare insieme; - creare interesse intorno al mondo OSM, sottolineando l'importanza di chi partecipa come mappatore, e dei benefini alla comunità. Un'ottima idea proposta è stata quella di utilizzare, per questa seconda linea, delle sessioni poster. In questo modo si creano degli interventi molto snelli, non contemporanei a nessuna iniziativa OSMit, ma che hanno il pregio di rimanere visitabili per tutta la durata dell'evento. La data dell'OSMit si è detto potrebbe essere il 6-7-8 novembre. *Proposte* A questo punto, per cominciare anche ad avere un'idea degli interventi per OSMit, direi che si potrebbero cominciare a raccogliere i talk. Io ho già indicato il mio qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:OSMit2015 Lo stesso vale per le presenze. Segnatevi e fate segnare! Mercoledì ho una riunione con l'università, a valle della quale conto di darvi con maggiore preciso l'idea degli spazi e delle attrezzature che avremo a disposizione, oltre che delle proposte dell'università stessa per far partecipare studenti e docenti all'evento. ciao, Il giorno 11 giugno 2015 16:44, Michele Mondelli mithenks...@gmail.com ha scritto: Certo! Faccio un hangout e aggiungo tutti! Il giorno 11 giugno 2015 15:40, Leonardo Frassetto kinetocor...@gmail.com ha scritto: Basta accedere al tuo account gmail e c'è la sezione hangout. Se non hai il plugin installato per le chiamate te lo offre il browser automaticamente. Vorrei partecipare pure io se è possibile Il 11/giu/2015 14:18, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto: Scusate, mi sono perso questo piccolo dettaglio. :-( Mai utilizzato. Che devo fare? Ho Chrome su un portatile Windows con videocamera e un buon collegamento. Volker 2015-06-11 13:46 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: Il 11 giugno 2015 13:43, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto: Se serve sono disponibile alle 18 via Skype (volker.schmidt) Ciao Volker, Michele nella sua mail precedente diceva di usare Hangout, inoltre Skype funziona meno bene se ci sono numerosi partecipanti. C ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015
Io quasi certamente parteciperò, non mi sono ancora iscritto per scaramanzia. Ciao /niubii/ Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:34, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi spiace un sacco per mille motivi (il primo di quelli è per aver contribuito affinchè osmit venisse portato avanti in questi anni), ma nelel date scelte proprio non ci posso essere. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?
vedi: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dhalt (non sembra disponibile in italiano) Halts Are Not Stations Please note the difference between stations and halts. Stations are operating sites which have at least one switch, whereas halts do not have any switches. That's why even important stations like Hamburg-Dammtor and Jena-Paradies (both ICE stations) are halts, not stations. Volker 2015-08-12 9:16 GMT+02:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Ciao, curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway halt. Che differenza c'è? Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali. grazie L ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église
Tant que le bâtiment et les points de repères sont visibles dans des sources de données servant a cartographier, comme la cadastre et l'imagerie Bing, je trouve qu'il est utile de les conserver dans OSM, en remplaçant les tag principaux par la versions préfixée de demolished: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix Ça évite aussi qu'un contributeurs non local, depuis son canapé, redessine tout ce qu'il voit qu'il manque d'après Bing (expérience vecue) Le 12 août 2015 08:42:09 GMT+02:00, David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit? Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense que l’existant. Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
OurAirports à déjà était importé. My 2 cents. Le 12/08/2015 00:06, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Bonjour, on va simplifier : alors que le titre semblait indiquer que ourairports était américano-américain, il est en fait mondial et en données versées au domaine public. J'ai fait un comparatif qui semble parler de lui-même : OurAirports OpenFlights License *public domain* souhaitent mais n'exigent pas d'être cités OBdL/commercial Entrées *46 516*8 107 Positionlat, lon, ele lat, lon, ele (en pieds) latitudelatitude_deglat longitude longitude_deg lon altitudeelevation_ftele_ft *Type* ballonport heliport seaplane_base small_airport medium_airport large_airport closed - Dénomination name:en name localitécouple ville principale/commune du site quelques vides city= ville principale name=commune locale ou lieu-dit continent oui - paysiso_country country état/région iso_region - Référence 3 alpha (iata) iata_code iata 4 alpha (icao) gps_codeicao 4-7 alpha ident code local/nationalde l'aéroportlocal_code wikipedia:en*wikipedia_link* website *home_link* Divers scheduled_service indique si les vols sont préprogrammés - fuseau horaire - oui, mais heure d'été sujette à caution dans certains états Voici ce que ça donne sur un degré carré : OpenFlightIDNameCityCountry iataicaoLat Lon AltitudeFt TimezoneDSTtype TimezoneName 1403GuipavasBrest France BES LFRB48,447911 -4,418539 325 1 E Europe/Paris 1411Landivisiau Landivisiau France LFRJ48,530258 -4,151642 348 1 E Europe/Paris 1413Poulmic LanvedocFrance LFRL48,281703 -4,445017 287 1 E Europe/Paris Aucun héliport, une erreur dans le nom d'une ville (Lanvéoc), localisation moins précise que ci-dessous. ident typenamelatitude_deglongitude_deg elevation_ft continent iso_country iso_region municipality scheduled_service gps_codeiata_code local_code home_link wikipedia_link keywords FR-0046 heliportAmirauté Heliport 48,3805542 -4,49166679 8 EU FR FR-EBrest no FR-0053 heliportLa Cavale Blanche Centre Hospitalier Heliport 48,40353012 -4,52956676 121 EU FR FR-EBrest no *LFRB* *medium_airport**Brest Bretagne Airport**48,44789886* *-4,41854* *325* *EU**FR**FR-E* *Brest/Guipavas**yes* *LFRB* *BES* * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest_Bretagne_Airport* *LFRJ* *medium_airport**Landivisiau Air Base* *48,53030014* *-4,15163994* *348* *EU**FR**FR-E* *Landivisiau* *no**LFRJ* *LDV* * * * * * * * * *LFRL* *medium_airport**Lanvéoc-Poulmic Air Base* *48,28170013* *-4,4450202**287* *EU**FR**FR-E* *Lanvéoc/Poulmic* *no* *LFRL* * * * * * * * * * * Sachant que OpenStreeMap trouve 6 héliports. Se pose la question de la meilleure façon de rapprocher les données. Est-ce que vous savez à quoi ident correspondrait sur OpenStreeMap ? ça ressemble à une référence internationale. Jean-Yvon ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église
Personnellement, pour une église détruite dont on ne trouve plus aucune trace sur le terrain, je ne la supprimerai pas pour autant de la base : cette information a toujours de la valeur, même si de nouveaux bâtiments sont construits par dessus. Une solution est de changer *amenity=place_of_worship* en *demolished:amenity=place_of_worship* comme décrit sur la page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix en mentionnant dans note=* les dates de destruction. Encore mieux d'après moi, c'est de mentionner la date de démolition directement dans le tag, comme je l'ai fait par exemple pour le changement de référence de ce quai : http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/283586749 Dans ton cas, en lieu et place de *amenity=place_of_worship* je mettrai donc *demolished:-2015_08_20:amenity=place_of_worship* (si la date de fin de démolition est bien le 20 août comme mentionné dans l'article de presse). Le 12 août 2015 08:55, Vincent de Château-Thierry v...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour, Le 12/08/2015 08:42, David Crochet a écrit : Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit? Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense que l’existant. Mais à garder ici : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Rep%C3%A8res_G%C3%A9od%C3%A9siques#Modifications_des_donn.C3.A9es dans la section Supprimés. vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?
On 2015-08-12 at 07:16:05 +, Luca Moiana wrote: curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway halt. Che differenza c'è? Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali. ferrovie locali? dici le nord? (ormai i treni che circolano lì e sulle linee regionali dello stato sono gli stessi) tra malnate e laveno le nord hanno un binario solo; se non ricordo male molte stazioni intermedie hanno anche loro un solo binario, e quindi la cosa corrisponderebbe con quanto scritto nell'altra mail (switch è lo scambio, vero?) non ricordo quali, oltre ovviamente a Varese dovrebbero esserci più binari a Gavirate, ma per le altre dovrei andare apposta a controllare. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église
Bonjour, Le 12/08/2015 08:42, David Crochet a écrit : Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit? Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense que l’existant. Mais à garder ici : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Rep%C3%A8res_G%C3%A9od%C3%A9siques#Modifications_des_donn.C3.A9es dans la section Supprimés. vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-be] DigAnt Café - meetup
http://www.meetup.com/DigAnt-Cafe/ This DigAnt Café meetup group aims to gather all those who want to co-create a future proof open source city platform that unlocks various apps and services. Peut-être que cet événement est suffisamment intéressant pour nous d'y aller... Misschien is dit wel interessant genoeg om te gaan voor ons. Might be interesting to go there, we are considering this professionally as well. Glenn ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks
Hi all I only got to speak briefly with the Head Ranger today. I request a further week delay in the decision on the tagging of Ant Trail. Thanks Tony ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église
Bonjour Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit? Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense que l’existant. Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM
Hola. Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando. Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También puede que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y de nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble. Un saludo El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez ludovic...@gmail.com escribió: Buenos días a todos Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta surgiendo una duda con los tags - Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es: carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria... - Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera. Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo, el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no requiere la aprobación de los mismos Un saludo ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 07:27:25PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 11. August 2015 um 18:11 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Defakto werden sie gelöscht - und leider durchsucht das wiki keine user pages sonst könnte man was dazu finden. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Flohoff#key:_dtag-vzk gerade wenn das wiki keine userpages durchsucht wäre es doch besser, das in den allgemeinen namespace zu verschieben oder kopieren, z.B. als proposal. ;-) Das proposal system habe ich noch nie so richtig verstanden. Wie soll ich über irgendwas diskutieren und abstimmen was noch niemand ausprobiert hat. Ist aber ein anderes Problem. Warum sind unbekannte Tags ein problem? Warum fordert osmose auf die zu überprüfen? Bei einer geringen hamming distanz zu bestandstags sehe ich das ja ein - Falsschreibung etc - Aber warum sollte nicht jeder tags selber setzen dürfen für einen spezialanwendungsfall? Ich extende die gerne auch um einen private/user specific namespace oder ähnliches. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de We need to self-defense - GnuPG/PGP enable your email today! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM
Buenos días a todos Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta surgiendo una duda con los tags - Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es: carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria... - Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera. Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo, el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no requiere la aprobación de los mismos Un saludo ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: If you were complaining that the trail isn't there then I'd understand, and you'd have my full support for adding it. But complaining instead that the abandoned railway isn't there...? They're often prominent features, especially in rural areas, as these can be *highly* visible decades after the land use changes, sometimes by something as subtle as how crops grow on them, due to the much higher soil compaction and use of herbicidal compounds to support and keep the line clear when it was an active railroad and can be readily used to orient yourself to if you have a map of the area that makes note of it. There's an inordinately large number of abandoned railroads in the panhandles of Texas and Oklahoma and adjacent parts of New Mexico, Colorado and Kansas (within my travels, what seems like about a 100+ mile wide swath from Gunnison, CO to Guymon, OK) that are north of 100 miles long that are sometimes not much more than a graded spot nothing grows on unless deliberately cultivated, and maybe not even then without some noticeable stunting. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-TW] 新人報到,遇到了有這樣觀念的家人....
敝人開始接觸OSM約在1年多前,發現OSM上關於我住的鎮的資訊很少,像景點、店家、GOV或NGO機關單位...等等及新的道路,所以就有空就在OSM官網增修鎮上的圖資... 但是像因為我家是旅宿業,鎮上同業競爭激烈,其實那些同業的圖資位置在其的他電子地圖或導航軟硬體上大部份都有,在OSM上的資訊就很少,我還是盡量把鎮上那些大小新舊有在營業旅館/民宿標示在OSM上... 我媽知道了,很生氣說:為什麼要幫別人(同業)打廣告?現在生意難做,你可以把那些同業資料都刪除嗎?只留我們家開的就好了,讓使用你說的這個東西的外地遊客來鎮上要住宿時,只能找到我們家的民宿!...我聽了真是無言..., 難道OSM曾經或可能發生故意(惡意)大量刪除競爭同業(如連鎖加盟業)的很多甚至全部的分店的圖資的情況,OSM有什麼方法處理這樣的狀況...? ___ Talk-TW mailing list Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
[Talk-GB] OpenData Camp Manchester, October 2015
The second tranche of OpenData Camp tickets become available at noon today: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/open-data-camp-2-tickets-17882025620 Earlier in the year, Nick Whitlegg, Gregory Marler and I attended the inaugural event at Hampshire County Council in Winchester. It's not strictly speaking a hack event, more an unconference. I found it a great opportunity to meet folk from central and local government, as well as from Ordnance Survey, and small firms and consultancies using OpenData. Although we may think of OSM in the context of government Open Data primarily as a user, its worth stressing the point that OSM is a major open data supplier to this community too. I'm not sure if I will be able to attend, but I think it would be good to have a clear OSM presence at the event. Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015
Pure io ho intenzione di partecipare ma devo aspettare la programmazione delle ferie autunnali/invernali a lavoro per poter confermare al 100% la mia presenza. Leonardo Il 12/08/2015 10:40, Francesco Pelullo ha scritto: Io quasi certamente parteciperò, non mi sono ancora iscritto per scaramanzia. Ciao /niubii/ Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:34, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com mailto:napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi spiace un sacco per mille motivi (il primo di quelli è per aver contribuito affinchè osmit venisse portato avanti in questi anni), ma nelel date scelte proprio non ci posso essere. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-ja] opening_hoursの書式
muramotoです。 ご意見ありがとうございます。 献血ルームでは、営業時間や開店時間といった表記はなく、受付時間しか明記されていないと思います。 (例:新宿東口献血ルーム https://www.tokyo.bc.jrc.or.jp/rooms/roomhp/room15.html) (1)この場合、opening_hoursには何の時間を指定すべきでしょうか。 (2)私は成分献血ばかりしているので、成分献血の受付時間を知りたいと思うのですが、それに適したタグはないと考えてよいでしょうか。(noteに記述する程度?) なお、opening_hoursのwikiページ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours)に *opening_hours*=06:00-23:00 open Dining in || 00:00-24:00 open Drive-through という例があったので、前記の書き方を思いつきました。 引き続きご意見のほどよろしくお願いいたします。 2015年8月11日 20:48 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 08:20:42PM +0900, tomoya muramoto wrote: muramotoです。 献血ルームタグから派生の質問です。 多くの献血ルームでは、成分献血と全血の受付時間が異なっていると思います。 そのため、opening_hoursの指定が少し複雑になるのですが、書式の中のテキスト部分に日本語を使って良いのか分かりません。 下記に案を3つ挙げますが、どれが適切と思われますでしょうか。個人的には、案2が良いのではないかと思っています。(案1, 3だとローカルユーザー(日本人)に不便なため) opening_hours は、その場所が開店している時間だと思います。 開店している時間と受付している時間がずれるとしても、受付時間に 合わせるのは変だと思います。 美術館とかで、開店時間が指定されているけれど、最終入場時刻も 指定されていて、閉店時間の30分前くらいになっているのと同じ ようなものではないかと思います。 案1:英語のみ opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open Whole 案2:日英併記 opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血(Plasma, Platelets) || 10:00-18:30 open 全血(Whole) 案3:日英分離 opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open Whole opening_hours:ja=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血 || 10:00-18:30 open 全血 ribbon ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch
sent from a phone Am 12.08.2015 um 12:12 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Das proposal system habe ich noch nie so richtig verstanden. Wie soll ich über irgendwas diskutieren und abstimmen was noch niemand ausprobiert hat. manche Probleme erkennt man schon, wenn man mit mehreren Leuten draufschaut, auch ohne dass man es ausprobiert, aber wie ich das sehe kann man mit einem Proposal auch schonmal nen tag dokumentieren (und über den Status, wie flexibel das noch ist) den man gerade ausprobiert. Warum sind unbekannte Tags ein problem? Warum fordert osmose auf die zu überprüfen? Bei einer geringen hamming distanz zu bestandstags sehe ich das ja ein - Falsschreibung etc - Aber warum sollte nicht jeder tags selber setzen dürfen für einen spezialanwendungsfall? darf er ja, aber warum sollte das geheim bleiben müssen? Wenn man es öffentlich macht helfen einem die anderen vielleicht bei der weltweiten Erfassung. Ich extende die gerne auch um einen private/user specific namespace oder ähnliches. wieso? Wenn das jeder machte hätten wir anstatt einer db für alle bald pro user eine sub-db, also so was wie 500.000 verschiedene private namespaces, und obwohl es da sicherlich reichlich Schnittmengen gäbe, würde man die kaum noch finden Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?
sent from a phone Am 12.08.2015 um 09:16 schrieb Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Che differenza c'è? Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali. in germania gli halt sono fermate con un unico binario, quindi senza deviatori si tratta di una gerarchia (halt è meno di station). ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM
Hola Lo que estoy viendo es que existen carreteras en las que la denominación oficial es diferente a la que te puedas encontrar en los carteles de las carreteras-señales de puntos kilométricos, y por eso me preguntaba si se podría crear un tag para poner la denominación oficial sin que esto supusiera un engorro para el resto de usuarios Un saludo El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:08, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando. Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También puede que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y de nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble. Un saludo El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez ludovic...@gmail.com escribió: Buenos días a todos Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta surgiendo una duda con los tags - Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es: carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria... - Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera. Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo, el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no requiere la aprobación de los mismos Un saludo ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery
Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed. Does this mean that NAIP will be removing WMS from future services and will only support JSON and SOAP? (which I cannot get JOSM to accept). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nettoyage en lot
D'après un plan devant l'enclos du port le jardin s'appelle les jardins Gabriel Bon festival à tous Erwan Le 8 août 2015 à 20:10, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Rions un peu : comme je voyais que notre tagueur name=arbre favori avait indique que le jardin devant l'Hôtel Gabriel s'appela jardin de l'hôtel gabriel j'ai demandé à un moteur de recherche s'il connaissait le jardin de l'Hôtel Gabriel. Si oui je ne voulais pas supprimer. Je suis tombé sur cette page, http://www.llegalemapas.com/information/fr/w290312480/jardin_de_l%27h%C3%B4tel_gabriel.html, regardez les lieux proches selon ce site ;-). Pendant le Festival Interceltique de Lorient allez constater qu'il y a beaucoup d'arbre à Lorient. Dépêchez vous, je fais le ménage. N. B. : le jardin est bien un lieu en tant que tel (comme le lien du FIL le montre). jardin de l'Hôtel Gabriel devant l'Hôtel Gabriel, ça fait un peu bizarre. Comme il y a l'attribut leisure=garden et que le jardin est proche de l'Hôtel, est-il nécessaire d'avoir le nom pour Nominatim ? Je suis pour garder le nom car il est à côté mais n'est pas contigu de l'Hôtel Gabriel. Actuellement il y a 4 polygones, j'ajoute une relation multi-polygone avec le nom dessus ? Jean-Yvon _ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dividing houses with returns as terrace (Brian Hollinshead)
Hi Brian, I was very happy to see your message as there doesn't seem to be a lot of love out there for careful drawing of building shapes. Understandably, it can be time consuming and I occasionally do some architectural drafting for a living so I'm definitely biased and in a better position than many to tackle this. It may help if I list general tips I've developed to overcome the very limited tools in JOSM for aiding with this task. Some of them involve improving results by not using the obvious way, such as using a tool not intended for a result to ultimately get that result while leaving clean geometry and tags. Install the following plugins for JOSM: alignways, building_tools, terracer, utilsplugin2. With all of these installed you now have these useful commands to help create good quality building shapes: Orthagonalize Shape [q] (core) Create Areas [x] (core) Join Overlapping Areas [shift+j] (core) (referred to as 'merging shapes') Draw Building [b] (building_tools) Split-Shape [alt+x] (utilsplugin2) Add nodes at intersection [shift+i] (utilsplugin2) Terrace a Building [shift+t] (terracer) Align Ways (alignways) I'll run through general techniques I use and I'll answer your question at the very end. You can skip straight to it but it might make less sense without the following. I'm basing all techniques from tracing Bing Maps: 1/ With some exceptions, building are nearly always orthogonal or have angles that mirror others. It's easiest to draw them as orthagonal and then create any other angles afterwards where confident. 2/ With the above in mind, I generally draw buildings using a series of independant rectangles which I then merge into a single shape at the end. This includes returns and any extrusions. While you can draw a perfectly perpendicular return from a building by adding two nodes to a rectangle and extruding the line between them using 'Create Areas', if you draw the return as a seperate rectangle and merge it to the main house at the end, you have slightly more flexibility with moving the return around as seperate rectangle than you do with nuding points and ways on the same shape if it was extruded. 3/ Get familiar with using the 'Draw Building' too for blocking out the shape of an entire building using rectangles that overlap. If you have a rectangle selected and begin drawing a new rectanlge using 'Draw Building' it will keep the new rectangle's angles lined up with the selected one. This is a huge time-saver and helps with accuracy. Where a more complex building is not perfectly orthagonal I find I'm often drawing a group of rectangles that are based on two different rotations. The 'Draw Building' tool helps me keep to these two different rotations throughout. The original architects usually followed patterns with angles and you can spot these pretty quickly. 4/ Don't forget you can quickly orthagonalise a shape by selecting it and hitting 'Q'. If you select a shape and then select any two nodes on this shape or another before hitting 'Q' the shape will be orthagonalised and aligned to the same angle between these two nodes. Very useful with terraces or quickly using other shapes as angle guides. If you don't select two other nodes the shape will be orthaganalised to the average of all the angles in the shape. It's worth knowing that architects often based the angles of a building on neighbouring buildings so try using these as guides and see if they help. 5/ I predomiinantly use 'Create Areas' to nudge entire lines parallel to their origin rather than using them to extrude lines from others. So If I've drawn one rectangle as a house and another rectangle as a return. I'll drag the return into place and resize it by nuding its boundaries using 'Create Areas' on its lines. 6/ To expand on this tip, if you hold down 'alt' while using 'Create Areas' to either nudge a line or extrude from between two points it will create an entirely new shape that's glued to the old. This is immensely valuable. I use it for creating terraces (I'll elaborate on this) or for creating guides which I'll later delete (ditto). 7/ One area I do use 'Create Areas' for is extruding a return rather than drawing a seperate rectangle then merging is at the edge of a building. It's quite quick to align one rectangle with another if you zoom in to the full extents and make sure the way of one rectangle lines up with the way or node of another. If I attempt any merging of shapes after this JOSM treats this level of alignment as being the same coordinates on both. However, at the edge of a building it can be quicker to just extrude a return rather than zoom in and align a seperate rectangle. My exception to this is if two returns meet on a terrace (I'll elaborate on this). 8/ I always draw to match the roof-top outline of a building and then drag the finished outline to match corner where the building meets the ground. Be careful that
[Talk-it] Navit RC1
Per gli appassionati...è uscito Navit-rc1 con routing migliorato http://sourceforge.net/projects/navit/files/v0.5.0-rc.1/ This is the long awaited 0.5.0 RC1 release. This release includes way too many changes for them to be listed here, but one of the key feature is the rewrite of the navigation engine. Some translations might not be completed at the time of this release. If you spot a mistake or a missing translation, please let us know : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Translations If you are using Android, you can become a beta tester : https://play.google.com/apps/testing/org.navitproject.navit Feedback is welcome! ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-es] Consulta sobre etiquetado en OSM
Ejemplo? El mié., 12 ago. 2015 a las 12:17, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez ( ludovic...@gmail.com) escribió: Hola Lo que estoy viendo es que existen carreteras en las que la denominación oficial es diferente a la que te puedas encontrar en los carteles de las carreteras-señales de puntos kilométricos, y por eso me preguntaba si se podría crear un tag para poner la denominación oficial sin que esto supusiera un engorro para el resto de usuarios Un saludo El 12 de agosto de 2015, 12:08, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. Aprobación aprobación tampoco se necesita expresamente pero si que debes comentarlo. En la wiki hay muchas etiquetas que están pendiente de aprobación o que se están votando, pero que ya se están usando. Si un tag solo la usas tu y no la conoce nadie de poco vale. También puede que vayas a crear un tag que ya existe pero se pone de otra manera y de nuevo todo tu trabajo sería inútil. Hay que intentar estandarizar porque sino es un descontrol que sería imposible de utilizar los datos introducidos. Además si pones tag diferentes al que se debe poner luego tendrá que ir otro detrás arreglándolo por lo que sería trabajo doble. Un saludo El El mié, 12 ago 2015 a las 11:41, Guillermo Marqués Rodríguez ludovic...@gmail.com escribió: Buenos días a todos Soy nuevo en el mundo OSM y me encuentro con muchas dudas-preguntas, más o menos a través de la wiki me voy encontrando en este mundo, pero me esta surgiendo una duda con los tags - Entiendo que existen tags para definir el tipo de elemento que es: carreteras autovía, carretera primaria, carretera secundaria... - Y que dentro de cada tag, vuelven a existir tags para definir las características como es el sentido, el nombre de la carretera. Mi pregunta es, si quisiera añadir un nuevo tag dentro del segundo grupo, el que define las características de la carretera, necesitaría comunicarlo al resto de usuarios para su aprobación o al ser de segundo nivel ya no requiere la aprobación de los mismos Un saludo ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Mapas
Hola Hector, En la SD tienes que tener una carpeta llamada Garmin y dentro de esa carpeta debes meter un mapa llamado gmapsupp.img que es el que te bajaste. Si lo que quieres es actualizarlo dentro del GPS (no en la tarjeta), puedes meter varios mapas, uno con el nombre gmapprom, otro con gmapsupp (aunque tengas otro en la SD que se llame asi no importa) y creo que un tercero puede llamarse gmapsupp2 Si lo que te ocurre es que bajaste mal los mapas, ponme un email y te mando el enlace de donde yo me los bajos, que si funcionan. Yo me acabo de bajar los de varios paises de Europa y funcionan bien (aunque como sabes la informacion de OSM es incompleta y con algunos errores) Aprovecho para preguntar al grupo si alguien sabe en que etiqueta se basan los GPS para hacer las busquedas de las calles en el propio GPS, porque a pesar de ver en el mapa el nombre de la calle, si lo metes en el buscador del GPS no te la encuentra. Además yo he hecho algunas modificaciones en OSM que ya aparecen reflejados en mi GPS, pero a pesar que les puse la etiqueta name a las calles que creé si que sale el nombre en el mapa del GPS pero no las busca. No se si es cuestión de etiquetas en el OSM o es que el GPS utiliza algun otro archivo distinto para buscar. Cualquier información será bienvenida. Saludos Jose Luis - AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD Tanto este mensaje como todos los posibles documentos adjuntos al mismo son confidenciales y están dirigidos exclusivamente a los destinatarios de los mismos. Por favor, si Ud no es uno de dichos destinatarios, notifíquenos este hecho y elimine el mensaje de su sistema. Queda prohibida la copia, difusión o revelación de su contenido a terceros sin el previo consentimiento por escrito de Crisfer Musical, S.L. En caso contrario, vulnerará la legislación vigente. - Original Message - From: Hector Calvo To: talk-es@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:16 AM Subject: [Talk-es] Mapas Dias pasados baje partes de mapas de Italia y Francia en una mini SD al GPS garmin nuvi 1490 pero no los lee, pienso que tal vez algun archivo no lo bajo correctamente? Atentamente Hector desde Argentina -- ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-is] Tillaga að nýjum götulitum
Þetta lítur vel út. Þetta er fyrir Mapnik renderinguna á osm.is er það ekki? Ef þið eru að gera breytingar á því væri gaman að sjá renderingu á aeroway=marking líka. Ég er búinn að vera að gera smá tilrauna verkefni með að nýta OpenStreetmap í vinnunni (hjá Tern Systems - tern.is) og til prufu bætti ég inn taginu aeroway=marking til að geta kortlagt merkingar á flug- og akbrautum á flugvöllum. Ég notaði Reykjavíkur flugvöll til að prófa þetta og það væri gaman að sjá hvernig þetta kæmi út í Mapnik renderingu. Ég hef notað eftirfarandi samsetnignar: aeroway=marking með area=yes, þetta eru t.d. brautarnúmer, zebra merkingar og miðlínur flugbrauta (með viðbótar marking=runway_centreline) og eru hvítir fletir á nærri öllum flugbrautum. aeroway=marking með marking=taxiline, þetta eru aksturslínur fyrir flugvélar á akbrautum og inn á flugbrautir, þær eru yfirleitt gular á litinn. Jafnframt bætti ég við aeroway=stopbar, en þetta eru stöðvunarlínur sem öll farartæki verða að stöðva við og fá sérstakt leifi hjá flugumferðarstjóra til að aka yfir. Þær eru heil gul lína með samsíða gulri brotalínu. Ég teiknaði þær allar þannig að brotalínan ætti að koma hægra megin við línuna. Bestu kveðjur, Þórir Már 2015-08-11 21:16 GMT+00:00 Karl Palsson ka...@tweak.net.au: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I like it. Jóhannes Birgir Jensson j...@betra.is wrote: Fyrir liggur tillaga frá Mateusz Konieczny um breytta liti á vegum. Dæmi um höfuðborgarsvæðið: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/899988/9209076/163e17f2-4075-11e5-8024-ee02e5e1e427.png Stærstu breytingarnar eru að tertiary verður hvítur en aðeins breiðari heldur en residential og unclassified, secondary tekur gula litinn sem tertiary hafði, primary tekur appelsínugula frá secondary og trunk (hringvegurinn) verður rauður en var áður grænn. Hægt er að skoða fleiri dæmi og senda inn athugasemdir á github síðunni: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736 ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is - -- Sent using Mailpile, Free Software from www.mailpile.is -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVymYZAAoJEBmotQ/U1cr2jWMP/iDnuhiOFWMRZA0ggTDjyewP sodYzAzUv/pnoQ9ZqzFN6O57Q4jzpYYuVeb6W/3o1BbaypPTJP24s0/Hoi01/qHe 3hBvxKlpHmaX6moYnbb+HyYjkzFNOzfL9+RofDL9h5AOd3iC/36F56z0ygvHV0Mn mkpBPPdUEGNHWAHaLTOA1JduuvqApovvWZQcmH5OU47+nViGkLxyNvvakGYHoud1 3freWN6W77d+Gjrof/KZf4k/S6B0jRVnsodHcwsCT0d/jmA90mrPKoi60Vu42x8g tAaKM0+moe3IVsBwlJqr1MXe7+a5OCVmbqC4bdxc87QmFWM4Sd3mOWx8y7thP9sX u32PEDJn4uLfSzZhNkQQerZqyRUS7E1bwtiqAdHs18z+VnatFJ+OLjwuTdGHI6BU Up4Qqs80sl7OQNI7Os+fVxpMzUi2I597cbn8APjvS9Iwk3f5Sd4/iLiT/kj6cG3+ PSM0TipOboc+p6RDaLJ+i/Q/sLtnuLJJvACCyhsOw9q07ewMDE5tzIqTToZJjExX +GJakVYQ8oqQeqRt5KbNQBpKehftJDcJiC1hNvKCRCm+o9eEIaNDNmykbW4+QGWk fLmJgpLMMeuygn13qkGjMDctOb9HekE6ln1Rot0/piVEZhoEIcemO3ZSBpjTexwA g7LVqmscNxBsCk4ikpLI =rMCm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dividing houses with returns as terrace (Brian Hollinshead)
Hi again Brian, On re-reading your question I see it wasn't so much a question on how to divide terraces for interest of including returns, so much as how to deal with dividing terraces where somebody else has already included extra returns. So my guide may not have much use for this question, apologies. Hopefully the tips are useful to anyone else who wants to improve building accuracy. To re-answer your question, perhaps emphasising that those including returns etc. take the time to correctly divide buildings at the time as it's easier to do so then than after. I know this isn't the most practical of answers but would be a good approach to follow in the future. Also apologies this isn't following the original thread on the archive. I've only got the digest version and can't see an option to reply to the original message other than manually placing it in the subject line (which didn't work for the archive it seems) Conor ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église
2015-08-12 8:42 GMT+02:00 David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr: Le 12/08/2015 00:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit? Si le point géodésique disparaît, il disparaît puisque OSM ne recense que l’existant. On peut mettre ça dans http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/ m ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-br] Ajuda para georreferenciar imagem
Ola Vitor, Pode usar esse serviço para criar facilmente um tms com o mapa que obteu : http://mapwarper.net/ Abraço, Severin Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:07:13 -0300 From: Vítor Rodrigo Dias vitor.d...@gmail.com To: LD OpenStreetMap Brasil - talk-br talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-br] Ajuda para georreferenciar imagem Message-ID: CAJvKQR0yid=pkehyZ0sePQUEix3g6kKYRh9= l3cqno39vsn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Prezados, Consegui junto à Prefeitura de Contagem um mapa em PDF com os limites de bairros da cidade e suas regiões administrativas, com permissão para uso dos dados no OSM. Gostaria de pedir a ajuda do pessoal aqui no georreferenciamento do mapa, pois o arquivo contém coordenadas de referência. Seguem em anexo os mapas em PDF e JPG. O link da imagem está em https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7kc_JOieZNvRHU5N0RmXzRjaTdJZHFJdEtPUHItVTI0bzlv/view?usp=docslist_api . Abraços! -- Próxima Parte -- Um anexo em HTML foi limpo... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-br/attachments/20150812/0ad98a4d/attachment.html -- Próxima Parte -- Um anexo não-texto foi limpo... Nome: Mapa Contagem Formato A0 bairros.pdf Tipo: application/pdf Tamanho: 1301990 bytes Descrição: não disponível URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-br/attachments/20150812/0ad98a4d/attachment.pdf -- Subject: Legenda do Digest ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fim da Digest Talk-br, volume 83, assunto 16 ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ajuda para georreferenciar imagem
Oi Vitor Rodrigo, posso aproveitar a sua iniciativa para engatar outra que ficou pendente, de explicitar as permissões aqui para o OSM? Aquela coisa das licenças de uso por um lado, e da *confiabilidade* de *certificação de origem* do outro. ... Acabo de preparar um github com o seu material, https://github.com/ppKrauss/osmPreparoOriginais Já usou o git? Pode criar o seu, que seria até mais interessante, ficando toda a sua contribuição no seu nome. PS: vejamos se alguém por aqui dá mais alguma dica antes de continuarmos. Em 12 de agosto de 2015 10:07, Vítor Rodrigo Dias vitor.d...@gmail.com escreveu: Prezados, Consegui junto à Prefeitura de Contagem um mapa em PDF com os limites de bairros da cidade e suas regiões administrativas, com permissão para uso dos dados no OSM. Gostaria de pedir a ajuda do pessoal aqui no georreferenciamento do mapa, pois o arquivo contém coordenadas de referência. Seguem em anexo os mapas em PDF e JPG. O link da imagem está em https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7kc_JOieZNvRHU5N0RmXzRjaTdJZHFJdEtPUHItVTI0bzlv/view?usp=docslist_api. Abraços! ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
@osmsanspourriel: le code ident correspond pour les aéroports à la référence ICAO: par exemple L représente l'Europe de l'Ouest, le LF recouvre tous les aéroports de France Métropolitaine. LFP pour l'île de France...Une autre norme internationnale est IATA. Les deux sont supportés dans la doc sur osmwiki.Juste en passant avec mes 5 cents à moi, il existe des bases complètes fournies par les aéroports et libre d'accès à tous avec toutes les pistes, les hangars, les zones militaires... On appelle ça le chart de l'aéroport. Y figure: coordonnées précises, couloir d'approche, service disponible, plan détaillé... etc Le Mercredi 12 août 2015 10h00, Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com a écrit : OurAirports à déjà était importé. My 2 cents. Le 12/08/2015 00:06, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Bonjour, on va simplifier : alors que le titre semblait indiquer que ourairports était américano-américain, il est en fait mondial et en données versées au domaine public. J'ai fait un comparatif qui semble parler de lui-même : OurAirports OpenFlights License *public domain* souhaitent mais n'exigent pas d'être cités OBdL/commercial Entrées *46 516* 8 107 Position lat, lon, ele lat, lon, ele (en pieds) latitude latitude_deg lat longitude longitude_deg lon altitude elevation_ft ele_ft *Type* ballonport heliport seaplane_base small_airport medium_airport large_airport closed - Dénomination name:en name localité couple ville principale/commune du site quelques vides city= ville principale name=commune locale ou lieu-dit continent oui - pays iso_country country état/région iso_region - Référence 3 alpha (iata) iata_code iata 4 alpha (icao) gps_code icao 4-7 alpha ident code local/nationalde l'aéroport local_code wikipedia:en *wikipedia_link* website *home_link* Divers scheduled_service indique si les vols sont préprogrammés - fuseau horaire - oui, mais heure d'été sujette à caution dans certains états Voici ce que ça donne sur un degré carré : OpenFlightID Name City Country iata icao Lat Lon AltitudeFt Timezone DSTtype TimezoneName 1403 Guipavas Brest France BES LFRB 48,447911 -4,418539 325 1 E Europe/Paris 1411 Landivisiau Landivisiau France LFRJ 48,530258 -4,151642 348 1 E Europe/Paris 1413 Poulmic Lanvedoc France LFRL 48,281703 -4,445017 287 1 E Europe/Paris Aucun héliport, une erreur dans le nom d'une ville (Lanvéoc), localisation moins précise que ci-dessous. ident type name latitude_deg longitude_deg elevation_ft continent iso_country iso_region municipality scheduled_service gps_code iata_code local_code home_link wikipedia_link keywords FR-0046 heliport Amirauté Heliport 48,3805542 -4,49166679 8 EU FR FR-E Brest no FR-0053 heliport La Cavale Blanche Centre Hospitalier Heliport 48,40353012 -4,52956676 121 EU FR FR-E Brest no *LFRB* *medium_airport* *Brest Bretagne Airport* *48,44789886* *-4,41854* *325* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Brest/Guipavas* *yes* *LFRB* *BES* * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest_Bretagne_Airport* *LFRJ* *medium_airport* *Landivisiau Air Base* *48,53030014* *-4,15163994* *348* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Landivisiau* *no* *LFRJ* *LDV* * * * * * * * * *LFRL* *medium_airport* *Lanvéoc-Poulmic Air Base* *48,28170013* *-4,4450202* *287* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Lanvéoc/Poulmic* *no* *LFRL* * * * * * * * * * * Sachant que OpenStreeMap trouve 6 héliports. Se pose la question de la meilleure façon de rapprocher les données. Est-ce que vous savez à quoi ident correspondrait sur OpenStreeMap ? ça ressemble à une référence internationale. Jean-Yvon ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-is] Tillaga að nýjum götulitum
Þann 12.08.2015 12:43, Thorir Jonsson reit: Þetta lítur vel út. Þetta er fyrir Mapnik renderinguna á osm.is [5] er það ekki? Þetta er ekki að okkar undirlagi en er fyrir Mapnik (nú CartoCSS) renderingu á OpenStreetMap.org sem osm.is notar beint. Ef þið eru að gera breytingar á því væri gaman að sjá renderingu á aeroway=marking líka. Ég er búinn að vera að gera smá tilrauna verkefni með að nýta OpenStreetmap í vinnunni (hjá Tern Systems - tern.is [6]) og til prufu bætti ég inn taginu aeroway=marking til að geta kortlagt merkingar á flug- og akbrautum á flugvöllum. Ég notaði Reykjavíkur flugvöll til að prófa þetta og það væri gaman að sjá hvernig þetta kæmi út í Mapnik renderingu. Frábært að fá þetta sjónarhorn, það liggur fyrir tillaga um að sýna minni flugvelli ekki jafn snemma og nú er gert (grasbalar birtast jafn stórir og alþjóðaflugvellir) samkvæmt þessu: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1734 Varðandi það að sýna merkingar þá er það eitthvað sem mætti senda inn sem pull request, einhverjir CSS snillingar sem vilja kíkja á CartoCSS. Ég sjálfur var að prófa að nota OSM tengt vinnunni, og því er nú hægt að skoða klósettlosunarstaði á landinu http://www.ust.is/library/Skrar/Kort/kort-seyrulosun.html --Jói ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
[Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH
Hello everyone, I have a few employers who are dedicating part of their funding to improve the map on Toronto and Toronto PATH, specially. This is a funded effort. I've tried to make some edits, but it's too hard for me, being a foreigner and not being on Toronto. The main thing here is to improve entrances and footways in that area. More details, please contact Darren Jones, at dar...@crosspathsolutions.com Thanks -- George R. C. Silva Sigma Geosistemas LTDA http://www.sigmageosistemas.com.br/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-ja] opening_hoursの書式
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 07:18:13PM +0900, tomoya muramoto wrote: muramotoです。 ご意見ありがとうございます。 献血ルームでは、営業時間や開店時間といった表記はなく、受付時間しか明記されていないと思います。 (例:新宿東口献血ルーム https://www.tokyo.bc.jrc.or.jp/rooms/roomhp/room15.html) そのようですね。 (1)この場合、opening_hoursには何の時間を指定すべきでしょうか。 受け付けたあと、最終的にいつ終わるかはその時の状況次第なので、 終了時間は書いてないのかな。まあ終了時間に来ても対応出来ない から、と言う気はします。 1つの考え方ですが、opening_hoursはやはり受付時間(新宿東口 だったら10:00-18:30)にしておくのが良いのではないかと思います。 たとえば、多くの銀行だと、15:00にカウンタ部分のシャッターが閉まりますよね。 でも、15:00直前に来た人は、シャッターが閉まったあとでも中にいて、 手続きを待っていたりしています。中は15:00きっかりに終わるわけではないです。 ですので、献血ルームも、18:30(上記の例)で受け付け終了=閉店と考え、 その直前に来た人は、閉店後、献血が終わるまで対応してもらっている、 と考えるというのはどうでしょうか。 (2)私は成分献血ばかりしているので、成分献血の受付時間を知りたいと思うのですが、それに適したタグはないと考えてよいでしょうか。(noteに記述する程度?) たぶん、専用のタグは無いのではないかと思います。 なお、opening_hoursのwikiページ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours)に *opening_hours*=06:00-23:00 open Dining in || 00:00-24:00 open Drive-through という例があったので、前記の書き方を思いつきました。 なるほど。いろいろ書けるんですね。 ribbon ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[Talk-es] Para Óscar Mapas
HOLA Muchas gracias por tu pronta respuesta. Baje los mapas de Francia pero cuando quiero abrir los ZIP una ventana que se abre dice , El archivo tiene un formato desconocido o esta dañado. Hector Horacio Calvo El ago. 11, 2015 8:26 PM, Óscar Zorrilla Alonso oscar_zorri...@hotmail.com escribió: Hola; Prueba a bajarlos de aquí: http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/descargas.php Una vez bajados y copiados a la SD, le tienes que decir al GPS que mapas vas a usar. http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/use_es.php#use_gps un saludo Óscar De: Hector Calvo Enviado: miércoles, 12 de agosto de 2015 1:17 Para: talk-es@openstreetmap.org Asunto: [Talk-es] Mapas Dias pasados baje partes de mapas de Italia y Francia en una mini SD al GPS garmin nuvi 1490 pero no los lee, pienso que tal vez algun archivo no lo bajo correctamente? Atentamente Hector desde Argentina _ Estoy utilizando la versión gratuita de SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/les para usuarios privados. Hasta ahora ha bloqueado 5866 spam y me ha ahorrado mucho tiempo. ¿Cansado de un PC lento? SLOW-PCfighter acelera su PC http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter/Lang_ES/?cid=siges . ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?
Grazie, la differenza ora è chiara, nel mio paese, Cislago, i binari sono 2 con un terzo di manovra, perciò è Station? Per quelle successive Turate, Mozzate non so. L On 12/ago/2015, at 16:48, Alessandro Chiostri alech.b...@gmail.com wrote: Una linea ferroviaria può avere anche un solo binario (p.e. la Porrettana oppure la Fortezza-Dobbiaco) Ma non è solo questo a determinare la differenza tra stazione e fermata. Se ci sono scambi in stazione (binario morto o )immediatamente prima e dopo (precedenze) questi devono essere mantenuti (costi) , segnalati (costi) e operati dal personale di stazione (costi ) . In una politica di risparmio, tutto viene tagliato semplificando al massimo: il binario diventa singolo (impossibili le precedenze tra treni opposti) per km prima e dopo il marciapiede, il convoglio debe solo arrivare, fermarsi, ripartire come un tram. La stazione viene degradata a fermata. Prendete ad esempio tutte le intermedie tra Pistoia e Pracchia, dove gli altri binari esistono ancora ma non solo collegati alla linea da scambi, il fabbricato viaggiatori è vuoto, niente biglietteria, niente posto di manovra. Anche su linee a doppio binario si può parlare di fermata: ad esempio Castiglioncello sulla tirrenica non è presidiata, non si sono scambi per chilometri prima e dopo, anichè doppio binario diventano due binari singoli a senso unico. Il giorno 12 agosto 2015 10:30, Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 2015-08-12 at 07:16:05 +, Luca Moiana wrote: curiosando tra i dati della mia zona, provincia di Varese, ho notato che alcune stazioni ferroviarie hanno tag railway station, mentre altre railway halt. Che differenza c'è? Mi sembra di capire che le station sono quelle delle ferrovie dello stato, mentre halt siano quelle di ferrovie locali. ferrovie locali? dici le nord? (ormai i treni che circolano lì e sulle linee regionali dello stato sono gli stessi) tra malnate e laveno le nord hanno un binario solo; se non ricordo male molte stazioni intermedie hanno anche loro un solo binario, e quindi la cosa corrisponderebbe con quanto scritto nell'altra mail (switch è lo scambio, vero?) non ricordo quali, oltre ovviamente a Varese dovrebbero esserci più binari a Gavirate, ma per le altre dovrei andare apposta a controllare. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati
(newbie alert) Buongiorno, Se le tracce GPS caricate su OSM discordano da una sorgente dati certa e georeferenziata come la Carta Tecnica Provinciale disponibile in CC-BY (seppur leggermente, soprattutto mancanza di dettagli fini come due tornanti di un sentiero trasformati in una linea retta, o una scorciatoia presa come traccia del sentiero ufficiale), è accettabile inserire dettagli che risultano dalla Carta ma non dalle tracce GPS? Grazie (la licenza della CTP di Trento è verificabile qui: http://www.territorio.provincia.tn.it/portal/server.pt/community/carta_tecnica_provinciale/920/carta_tecnica_provinciale/40052) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Discordanza tracce GPS e dati
le tracce non contengono altro che coordinate e tempi (timestamps), non contengono dettagli ecc. ma sono registrazioni dove qualcuno si ha mosso con un gps in mano. Per trarre maggior senso dalle tracce devono essere le tue ;-) invece le CTR sono generalizzazioni in scala 5000/1, fatte secondo delle normative (contengono certe cose ed altre no), ecc ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Railway Halt and Railway station?
sent from a phone Am 12.08.2015 um 21:13 schrieb Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: i binari sono 2 con un terzo di manovra, perciò è Station? si. manovra=station ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it