Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-04 Thread Maarten Deen

On 2018-03-05 06:23, Rodrigo Rodríguez wrote:

These are sort of the things I would appreciate I could be able to
map in OSM. Even with the subjective point of view that might
represent to tag a way as insecure or not, it is easily achievable to
determine a way or schema in wich you could identify wether a street
is safe to walk or pass through under determinated conditions.


I disagree. Nothing is more subjective than a sense of danger. There are 
a few roads in my home town that I hear from one or two people are "very 
dangerous" and "should be avoided by bicycle" where I have no problem 
with those roads at all and use them daily.
How can I determine that from a very subjective "dangerous" tag. I would 
have to see that road for myself to determine if I find it dangerous or 
not, making that tag useless.


If you want such a classification, you would need to tap into crime and 
accident statistics for that road.


Regards,
Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-04 Thread Rodrigo Rodríguez
These are sort of the things I would appreciate I could be able to map
in OSM. Even with the subjective point of view that might represent to
tag a way as insecure or not, it is easily achievable to determine a way
or schema in wich you could identify wether a street is safe to walk or
pass through under determinated conditions.

For example, I've been wondering if I could use class=bicycle to
properly identify bicycle friendly streets in my city, considering we
have no cycleways. In that process, I have found that some routing
engines send me by streets I can't pass through by night nor alone,
because they are very dangerous.

I know I could map if the streets are well iluminated or how is their
surface, but that's not enough to what happens on those streets (gangs
and violence, for example). I could also use the class=bicycle tag and
"hack" a routing service to properly identify these tags, but that's
doesn't give me the real reflect of reality: I can move around those
street by day, not on the night.

I guess this scenario is similar to the one you mention, so I would
propose two things: use a similar scheme tagging as class=bicycle for
pedestrian (that it may be developed), and to propose a time-based
tagging (hourly or night/day).

On the other hand, some weeks ago I read about these kind of projects
and tags within the map feaures, and how they could be misguided the OSM
project to other things that are not included in the initial mission of
the global project (to create a geo-database for scienteific and
academic purpose).

But I guess we can discuss how much would OSM as a service or OSM as a
databse for social science research might be excellent to the whole
global initiative and for incursioning in other research fields
involving OSM.

On 27/02/18 02:50, Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com wrote:
> I came across an interesting node while correcting map errors.
> Thoughts on something like this? Delete it? Modify it? Does OSM care
> to map this type of local information?
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=4602572938#map=20/21.01482/-101.25210
>
> The note; "Peligroso en la noche o para mujeres solas. No llevar a la
> vista cosas de valor", translates as, "Dangerous at night or for
> single women. Do not carry things of value in plain sight."
>
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[OSM-talk] Donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-03-04 Thread Daniel Koć

Hi,

You might remember news about big bitcoin donation from the Pineapple Fund:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/01/11/donation-from-pineapple-fund/

I wonder how OSMF plans to use it?

This is substantial amount of money, however I'm aware that it's just a 
one time shot and not a big change for the OSM in the long run - it's 
"only" about 2x more than yearly income:


"Our total income in 2016, without SOTM, was £124,000."

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Finances/Treasurer%27s_Report_for_the_December_2017_AGM


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"My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple]


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[OSM-talk] FOSSGIS routing server

2018-03-04 Thread michael spreng
Hi

I want to introduce the FOSSGIS routing server at
https://routing.openstreetmap.de/ to a wider audience.
It runs OSRM with a car, bike and foot profile almost worldwide. It
seems to be working quite stable now, so I hope to increase the traffic
a bit. The aim in the end is to get it on osm.org as one of the routing
options. Currently there are only the servers run by commercial
entities, this server should be more community run.

Currently the bike profile is limited to Eurasia, because the servers
are lacking a few GB of ram to run all three profiles world wide.

You can find a bit more information on the about page
https://routing.openstreetmap.de/about.html

Please provide feedback if something is not working as intended. Here or
on github. Also, I am looking for someone else to join me in
administrating these servers, such that they are not depending on a
single person :). If you have a bit of experience working in a shell and
would like to tinker with a big server, don't hesitate to contact me.

Michael

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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #397 2018-02-20-2018-02-26

2018-03-04 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 397,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10075/

Enjoy!

weeklyOSM? 
who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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