[OSM-talk] OSM used by James Gosling's presentation at OracleWorld
FYI http://blogs.sun.com/jag/entry/my_slides_from_oracle_openworld -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Species names
Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:42:25PM +0100, Jack Stringer wrote: My rule of thumb would of be label it in english rather that local name. But that's because I am english. Using latin would put some people off from tagging Zoos. But precise latin specie name is a universal identifier (rather than a „human readable” name), which can be easily translated to local names by automated means. For some species, I guess, there will be no English name, but there may be a local name. And Latin name will always be defined. As I'm presently working on a semantic application which includes bird catalogs, I can say that things aren't so easy (but aren't much harder). While the idea of using the latin name (a.k.a. binomial name) is a good idea (much better than localized names, that often are ambiguous), there isn't a universal catalog of names (my experience is limited to birds, but I expect my point is valid for other animals too). Instead there is a number of different taxonomies around, even though some are more commonly used than others (e.g. Clements for birds); probably the most complex point is that names don't stay the same in time, as taxonomies are constantly evolved and maintained; sometimes a single species name changes, sometimes the genus name changes, sometimes two different species are grouped into a single one, sometimes what is considered a single species with variants is split in multiple species. Thus, a good way to represent a species name would be a triple: taxonomy name, taxonomy year, binomial name. Eg. Clements, 2008, Larus canus would represent the Mew gull (not sure it's called Common gull throughout the whole world, BTW). This should be enough, and would make possible to specialized applications (such as mine) to find the semantic equivalence with other taxonomies, localized names and so on. While this might sound picky, in the Semantic Web perspective it is important to be picky. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Species names
Ed Avis wrote: Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giudici at tidalwave.it writes: Thus, a good way to represent a species name would be a triple: taxonomy name, taxonomy year, binomial name. Eg. Clements, 2008, Larus canus species:Clements:2008=Larus canus That also allows for other taxonomies to be added at the same time, and for more general 'species:Clements' and just plain 'species' in cases where the taxonomy is well-established, or the person doing the tagging isn't an expert. (I would just use the species name on display at the zoo, and tag it as 'species', unless I were enough of an expert to be more specific.) Sounds ok. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] best GPX collection tool for Palm Treo 650
On Monday 08 June 2009 02:24:40 Michael Kugelmann wrote: Joe Richards wrote: What's the best tool for collecting GPX trails and adding OSM waypoints for Palm OS? I I wrote and maintain windRose (http://windrose.tidalwave.it). It lets you enter geotagged notes, that could be interpreted as waypoints. It exports in GPX (but not with waypoints) and an internal format (WRX, XML based) with waypoints. The latter is going to be dropped in favour of the former. If you try it and give me a quick feedback about what you need, I could easily fill the gaps. It works with various type of maps including OSM, and you can preload them on a memory support. It works with any bluetooth GPS receiver. Let me know if you try it. Have a look at the quickstart for the description of the main features. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] best GPX collection tool for Palm Treo 650
Michael Kugelmann wrote: Hello, I wrote and maintain windRose (http://windrose.tidalwave.it). BTW: does anybody know where to get the IBM Java runtime which is required for windRose? It is no longer downloadable from the PALM homepage nor from IBM... :-( Unfortunately this is not possible by official channels, as the product has been discontinued. You could try to contact somebody that has got it already installed on his Palm :-) -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Why OpenStreetMap is not Wikipedia
On Jul 29, 2008, at 0:21 , Frederik Ramm wrote: I believe that some people are very quick to simply transfer lessons learned from Wikipedia onto OSM, sometimes without properly taking into account that while there are similarities, there are also lots of differences. There's another difference, which is quite important (to me at least). Wikipedia collects knowledge in general and a great deal of this knowledge (if not most of it) is partly subjective; in the end, the good faith of its contributors and the existence of a mechanism to verify it is important. Furthermore, there is stuff where the objective truth doesn't exist at all - all of this bring up the point of how much one trust in Wikipedia, if you prefer such an approach or the traditional one with an editor, a board of controllers, etc... On the contrary, OSM is documenting mostly factual data based on empirical observation (the GPS tracks). Yes, there are the boundary controversies etc, but fortunately they involve only a part of the world. Summing up, there are no strong problems of trust in OSM, while there are in Wikipedia, IMHO. -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps in 3D
On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:25 , Simon Ward wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 08:27:56AM +0100, elvin ibbotson wrote: Why not use Java instead of Microsoft stuff then it would run on anything. Java doesn’t really run on anything, Well, this is just nonsense :-) NASA World Wind for Java is made in Java, runs on everything (probably soon even on mobile phones), it's OpenGL based and fast, and takes advantage of hardware acceleration. I think that people should be able to defend their own legitimate technology choices without the need of saying nonsense about other technologies. :-) -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Using OSM maps in a mobile navigator
Hi there. I've recently added support for OSM maps (BTW, it's the default provider) in an open source mobile navigator that I've developed. I'm guessing which is the best way to give credits to OSM in my application - what about writing OSM (or maybe a logo - is it the magnifying glass at the left top corner in the home page the official logo of OSM?) over the rendered maps? Thanks for any feedback. -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM maps in a mobile navigator
Ok, thanks. I've added a quick-and-dirty about box with all the info (the icon overlay on the map requires more work, since shrinking the icon to a reasonable size turns it into a random cluster of pixels). May I just suggest to add a URL redirector at http://openstreetmap.org/Attrib that points to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution? The latter is really long for a mobile device, it needs wrapping for rendering and wrapping is not aesthetically pleasing. Thanks. On Jul 17, 2008, at 15:14 , Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Jueves, 17 de Julio de 2008, Fabrizio Giudici escribió: I've recently added support for OSM maps (BTW, it's the default provider) in an open source mobile navigator that I've developed. I'm guessing which is the best way to give credits to OSM in my application Well, the current CC license specifies that the attribution notice has to be reasonable to the medium. In other words, if your mobile navigator has limited screen real state, you may choose to display or not to display an OSM logo or copyright notice in the main screen. A simple splash screen with the logo and URL is fine. A notice on the about section of your program (if you have it) is fine. However, please do link to www.openstreetmap.org *and* either the license page on the wiki[1] or the CC-by-sa license[2]. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution [2] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ As we have seen in The State of the Map last weekend, displaying the names of all contributors can be a daunting task. Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian Linux with 2.6.24-1-amd64 kernel, KDE 3.5.9, and PHP 5.2.6-1 generating this signature. Uptime: 15:04:35 up 38 days, 22:52, 4 users, load average: 1.69, 1.09, 0.98 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OT] OSM based photo catalogue
On Jun 11, 2008, at 14:41 , Steve Hill wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, John McKerrell wrote: Indeed, flickr's great and can do most of this stuff well. I like to use this site[1] to geotag my photos on flickr just because it's really nice and easy but there's lots of other ways to do it. I use DigiKam to geotag my photos - it is about the only photo manager I've found which is actually any good. I set up my website to embed a slippymap with markers for each photo. e.g. http://www.nexusuk.org/photos/skiing/switzerland/verbier/2008/02/23/ On Jun 11, 2008, at 14:41 , Steve Hill wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, John McKerrell wrote: Indeed, flickr's great and can do most of this stuff well. I like to use this site[1] to geotag my photos on flickr just because it's really nice and easy but there's lots of other ways to do it. I use DigiKam to geotag my photos - it is about the only photo manager I've found which is actually any good. I set up my website to embed a slippymap with markers for each photo. e.g. http://www.nexusuk.org/photos/skiing/switzerland/verbier/2008/02/23/ blueMarine (bluemarine.tidalwave.it) also allows geotagging both manually and matching timestaps with a recorder track. It uses many geodata sources including OSM. But it's not yet ready for production use. -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Enabling communities to use OSM as a planning tool
On Jun 4, 2008, at 20:39 , spaetz wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 11:09:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thought that occurs to me is that there will be many, disparate groups wishing to use OSM to plan stuff, only a very small proportion of which would eventually become reality. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to add these features to the main OSM database. I would also agree that it is probably not appropriate to add addition (non-real) data to the main database, as it will make the editor view significantly more cluttered and confused. At present they can achieve the same effect using off line file and merging layers before rendering. OpenLayers is capable of rendering local .osm data, so it's possible to have a local planning layer overlaid on the plain map. I don't know what Simon had in mind, in any case I'm developing an application where there will be travel planning, and it will also use OSM. I think that this should be done locally, as others have suggested (in my case I have a full fledged desktop application, so there are no problems at all). -- Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
