Re: [Talk-transit] Importing GTFS feed stops in Belo Horizonte, Brazil
Hi Alexandre, On 3/18/20 2:44 PM, Alexandre Oliveira wrote: > I remember reading it a few months ago that there was no restriction of > use for GTFS feeds, but I couldn't find it right now. I guess I'll need > to send an email asking for permission to use the data. As forming part of the steering organization around GTFS, I can clearly say, that the format doesn't imply at all any definition of the usage right or permission (to use it openly). There are a lot of people within the GTFS ecosystem that promote Open Data. But you definitively have to make sure you have the proper permission before including it on OpenStreetMap! A pure import should also follow OSM's import guidelines. But if you have the permission to use the data, you can definitively use it for manual mapping and check the stop one by one. This is already a good helper to get this valuable data in, if possible and legally allowed. Best, Felix > On 3/18/20, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-transit > wrote: >> >> >> Mar 17, 2020, 23:51 by rockyt...@gmail.com: >> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I've retrieved the GTFS feed for Belo Horizonte, a city in Brazil, and >>> would like to import its bus stops to OSM. >>> >> What is the license of this data? >> > ___ > Talk-transit mailing list > Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
[talk-latam] Canal de XMPP: OSM en Español
Hola todes: Quisiera invitarles para unirse al chat de XMPP/Jabber para OpenStreetMap: xmpp:openstreet...@salas.suchat.org?join Es la mejor alternativa para las personas quienes quisieran salir de servicios de comunidades enjauladas, cómo Telegram, etc. Nos vemos por allá. Saludos, Felix ___ talk-latam mailing list talk-latam@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-latam
Re: [OSM-talk] New mailing list about machine learning and OSM
Hi Christoph, On 6/27/19 12:28 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Thursday 27 June 2019, Felix Delattre via talk wrote: >> Until this moment the conversation has been pretty much polemic from >> people either hyping or hating these new techniques of programming >> with automated statistics. > No problem with creating a new thematic mailing list here but the above > is somewhat insulting to those who have in the past discussed bot > mapping in OSM on a serious level. I don't think that ML = bot mapping. At least this is not what I would like to use ML techniques for. And I also don't think this is in any close to the spirit of OSM. Please let me clarify, that I definitively don't want to insult anybody! This is a respectful and humble request to bring us together in an open and argumentative conversation. > Could you by the way explain the term "automated statistics" - i had not > heard this before and a quick search returns a lot of uses of this term > in the context of database systems, which i however have the impression > is not what you are talking about. Most terms in this field are > politically connotated - "artificial intelligence" implying a > similarity to human intelligence, "machine learning" implying a > similarity to human learning processes. For me "automated statistics" for most cases seems to be a good way to refer to what others call nowadays AI. Because it describes closer to what is happening there. I'm really not a big fan of hyped buzzwords. An Artificial Intelligence - which deserves the term - in my opinion has not been achieved at all. I'm looking forward to interesting conversations. Best, Felix ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New mailing list about machine learning and OSM
Hello everybody, Neural network based deep learning methods for feature extraction using computer vision are giving concrete results and these are also more and more getting used in the context of maps and OpenStreetMap. Until this moment the conversation has been pretty much polemic from people either hyping or hating these new techniques of programming with automated statistics. My guess: as OSM we will not be able to completely reject these new developments, and personally, I'm convinced it will also not fundamentally change how OSM works. There are many aspects that we are missing to address in an open, concise and argumentative way. Questions like: Where is the red line of applying machine learning? What are beneficial applications of machine learning for OSM? What ethical implications are having these steps? And for sure, there are open questions on licensing in the context of machine learning. Furthermore, I think it is good to have a place to have technical discussions on how to implement certain tools and talk about engineering and technical details. So far, most conversation has happened in private blog posts, and separated/closed groups. Our communication bubbles are growing, which is not good for OSM, and I would like to see a less segregated and constructive conversation to develop together the OSM way of using machine learning. Therefore I want to invite everybody interested to join this new mailing list, where we can share opinions, insights, experiences and concerns. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/machine-learning Thanks, Felix ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
