[OSM-legal-talk] Software using open street map data and Licensing model / restrictions

2009-08-23 Thread Frank O'Dwyer
Frederik Ramm wrote:
Anything you produce from OSM data must be CC-BY-SA licensed (e.g. if
you compile OSM data into some special compressed map format for your
application then these special compressed files must by CC-BY-SA). If
you mix OSM data with someting else into an end product then that end
product must also be CC-BY-SA. If your application displays OSM data
loaded from file 1 and proprietary data loaded from file 2, then you can
keep the licenses separate.

I have a similar question to the OP. I want to mix in OSM POI data in my
(free) iphone app database, which also collects POI-like data from users
and (if I import the OSM data), users can add ratings / descriptions /
arbitrary tags based on the original OSM POI (so clearly 'derived').

My intention is for the data collected (entries, ratings, tags) to be
open and CC-BY-SA in the same spirit as OSM and to make DB dumps etc
available, minus identifying info for users. The question is does it
matter which version of CC-BY-SA I pick, and indeed if every entry in my
DB has to be under the same CC-BY-SA license, in order to be compatible
with OSM. The reason for asking is that osm currently uses an older CC
license and I'd prefer to use the latest version unless it causes problems.

Reading the CC license, it says derived works must be under the 'same or
similar' license, so the spirit certainly doesn't seem to be to tie to
the exact same version. I'm not trying to restrict the use of the data
in any commercial way, just want to use the latest CC license if I can.
At the same time, I want any data collected by the app to be usable by
OSM, so that it can be shared back in case it turns out to be useful
(e.g. I collect new fixes for existing POIs, and I may potentially get
new POIs that OSM hasn't got already). So I don't want to pick a license
version that prevents that.

The app is already out there, but initially I have been vague about the
exact CC-BY-SA license version used. In any case, I don't use any OSM
data yet, but would like to start importing it soon. For the collective
DB I am using the open database license as it looks well thought out to
me, and I also understand that is where OSM is headed - this also seems
to potentially allow for using slightly different licenses per
individual content.

A description of the app and the mention of the data being open is here
http://appshopper.com/travel/word-on-the-street
or here on itunes
http://itunes.com/apps/wordonthestreet

Regards,
Frank

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[OSM-talk] reusing OSM POI information

2009-08-17 Thread Frank O'Dwyer
Hi,

I've developed an iPhone app / web app for annotating/rating/tagging
locations.

I haven't formalised this yet but the intention is for the data the app
is collecting to be open data - I'm currently intending to use the
opendatacommons database license for the data collection and cc-by-sa
for the entries themselves. I'm not sure exactly which version of
cc-by-sa to use but since 3.0 is the latest I'm thinking of that.

I'm interested in reusing the OSM POI information and incorporating it
into the database. Conversely I'd like to be able to share back with
OSM the data that the app collects, as there is probably a lot of
overlap and perhaps new information for you (e.g. additional GPS fixes
per POI, etc). Other information like rating and tags and unstructured
descriptions you may or may not be interested in but of course that
would be available also.

I know that OSM has had a lot of discussion about switching licenses so
my question is if there is any problem with doing this and if my
proposed license choice would be compatible with yours? Also, if I do
this who should I attribute - the individual OSM contributors (how?) or
OSM or both? I have read the wiki FAQs on this but I thought it would be
better to check.

On the technical side I have got fields in my database per entry for
contributing user, data source (string), and data source identifier
(also a string). The first field references the record for a normal user
of the app and the other fields are intended to reference the original
source of an external POI (normally null as I don't use any external
sources yet). I was thinking of something like creating a user called
'osm' and then using the source and source id fields to reference the
osm username and node id. In this case the entries would be attributed
to OSM. Alternatively I could create dummy user records for external
contributors, which would attribute the entries to individuals. Having
the node ID should also make it easier to match up entries across the
two DBs. Also if necessary, adding to the schema is not too much of a
problem.

Cheers,
Frank



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