[talk-au] Southampton Pltn
It is indeed a sign pointing to the Forest Products Commission Southampton Plantation of Radiata Pine. https://catalogue.data.wa.gov.au/dataset/forest-products-commission-plantations-fpc-001/resource/2ab60ce7-8a9f-4c93-9246-fa75083a9cb6 Greg Dutkowski +61 0362238495/0408238495 1 Cascade Road, SOUTH HOBART. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Working with local government
Thanks, I'll check it out. Greg Dutkowski +61 0362238495/0408238495 1 Cascade Road, SOUTH HOBART. On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 12:48, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Richard Fairhurst posted something very relavent to this topic at this > https://twitter.com/richardf/status/1285590975511957504 in particular > http://theodi.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-05-Providing-data-to-OpenStreetMap.pdf > > On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 14:52, Greg Dutkowski > wrote: > >> Hi, >> Bicycle Network Tasmania are trying to improve the quality of cycling >> infrastructure information in OSM. >> Much has been done by volunteers in various jurisdictions, and we have >> done lots locally, but the tagging is quite complex for cycle paths and not >> always correct. >> Local councils are responsible for much of the infrastructure, but they >> usually have little interaction with OSM. >> It would be most efficient if the councils GIS data worked in tandem with >> OSM data so that they kept each other up to date, each storing the info >> that is most useful for them. For instance, for bike parking, there is >> little utility in OSM storing the asset numbers and other info that the >> councils use to maintain their assets (although the ref tag could be used >> as a foreign key to help keep the two in sych). >> The Hobart councils we work with are concerned with the quality of the >> data in OSM and the ability of anyone to change it. >> Does anyone know of any examples we could learn from of local government >> itself working to keep OSM data up to date? >> Thanks. >> >> Greg Dutkowski >> +61 0362238495/0408238495 >> 1 Cascade Road, SOUTH HOBART. >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Working with local government
Hi, I was thinking of using the ref tag to store the council ID for the object, and then the council could use the OSMID in their database. What I was looking for was tools or approaches for keeping the two in sync. The foreign keys in each system are part of that. The conflation tools Andew Harvey pointed to may be a way to go. OSM is so big and diverse it is hard to get your head around all of the possibilities, so contacts with people who are making conflation work would be ideal. Greg Dutkowski +61 0362238495/0408238495 1 Cascade Road, SOUTH HOBART. On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 12:33, David Wales wrote: > Is there any reason against using a custom tag as a linking key? > > e.g. some_import_object_id=123456 > > Then when you need to update the data, you can match the key in OSM with > the key in the source data. > > On 19 July 2020 11:21:04 pm AEST, Andrew Harvey > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 at 22:28, Greg Dutkowski >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Thanks for everyone's input. >>> Sebastien best understood what I am trying to do. >>> It seems inefficient for local government to make their data open and >>> then hope the OSM community translates it to OSM tagging. >>> >> Better for local government to put their data directly into OSM and >>> maintain a two way link to their data. >>> >> >> While that is certainly welcome, I would never have an expectation of it. >> I expectat that all public funded works are made open without restrictions >> on use (of course subject to privacy concerns or other special >> considerations) so at least the OSM community can use it if we like, >> anything above and beyond this is a welcome contribution. >> >> If a local government is thinking about this, I'd just say engage with us >> so we can all work together. >> >> >>> Examples and tools from anyone who is trying to keep external data in >>> sync with OSM will be most useful. >>> >> >> There are some conflation tools at >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Conflation but they appear >> to all need a lot of coding to get up and running. >> > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Working with local government
Hi, Thanks for everyone's input. Sebastien best understood what I am trying to do. It seems inefficient for local government to make their data open and then hope the OSM community translates it to OSM tagging. Better for local government to put their data directly into OSM and maintain a two way link to their data. Examples and tools from anyone who is trying to keep external data in sync with OSM will be most useful. I have had good chats with Transport NSW, but ther do not try and do it. Maybe they are right, it is too hard. Greg Dutkowski +61 0362238495/0408238495 1 Cascade Road, SOUTH HOBART. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Working with local government
Hi, Bicycle Network Tasmania are trying to improve the quality of cycling infrastructure information in OSM. Much has been done by volunteers in various jurisdictions, and we have done lots locally, but the tagging is quite complex for cycle paths and not always correct. Local councils are responsible for much of the infrastructure, but they usually have little interaction with OSM. It would be most efficient if the councils GIS data worked in tandem with OSM data so that they kept each other up to date, each storing the info that is most useful for them. For instance, for bike parking, there is little utility in OSM storing the asset numbers and other info that the councils use to maintain their assets (although the ref tag could be used as a foreign key to help keep the two in sych). The Hobart councils we work with are concerned with the quality of the data in OSM and the ability of anyone to change it. Does anyone know of any examples we could learn from of local government itself working to keep OSM data up to date? Thanks. Greg Dutkowski +61 0362238495/0408238495 1 Cascade Road, SOUTH HOBART. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
