Re: [OSM-talk-be] Meetup about rendering of maps

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello,

Two years ago I created a map with QGIS & OSM. You can find the QGIS style
there : https://github.com/Champs-Libres/QGIS-OSM-styles

I explained the method is a blog-post (
http://blog.champs-libres.coop/carto/2015/04/10/creer-une-carte-cycliste-avec-osm-et-qgis.html
). I took some inspiration from
https://anitagraser.com/2014/05/31/a-guide-to-googlemaps-like-maps-with-osm-in-qgis/
& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsf4OxUDS44

Have a nice evening.

Marc

On 10 October 2017 at 18:04, joost schouppe 
wrote:

> I set up a repo a couple of days ago. I've now added you, Jo.
>
> This is the URL:
> https://github.com/osmbe/qgis_rendering
>
> I use sqlite databases (which behave like files) in QGIS, and they behave
> just fine.
>
> 2017-10-09 14:45 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>
>> Yes, we can look into github on Wednesday evening. Joost, please set up a
>> repo for it.
>>
>> OK, so with a bit of luck we have Clem to show Maperitive and Pieter to
>> show QGIS for rendering.
>>
>> Yesterday I started watching this series:
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7HotvlLKHCs9nD1fFUjSOsZrsnctyV2R
>>
>> This explains it quite succinctly, but putting it into practice is still
>> a challenge with QGIS. Mine crashes a lot. Now I'm thinking it would be
>> better if I would involve PostGIS, instead of working with files, for a
>> larger region.
>>
>> Somehow Maperitive was able to cope with it, but there my problem is
>> automating the workflow to get consistent results.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2017-10-05 11:06 GMT+02:00 Pieter Brusselman <
>> pieter.brussel...@tragewegen.be>:
>>
>>> @Joost,
>>>
>>> OK, you can do that.  But I need a short intro in Github.  Maybe
>>> wendsday evening?
>>>
>>>
>>> Pieter Brusselman
>>> *Cartografie ~ Projectmedewerker*
>>>
>>> [image: (logo boompja)] 
>>>
>>> *A* Kasteellaan 349
>>>  A,
>>> 9000 Gent
>>> *T* 09 / 331 59 27
>>> *W *www.tragewegen.be
>>>
>>> [image: logo facebook] 
>>>
>>> ter info: ik werk niet op vrijdag
>>> Op 5/10/2017 om 10:48 schreef joost schouppe:
>>>
>>> Pieter,
>>>
>>> I could make a repository on our github page https://github.com/osmbe/
>>> for a QGIS project if you're interested.
>>>
>>> 2017-10-05 10:22 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>>>
 Hey, that is great news! I will also come to FOSS4G the day after our
 Meetup. Somebody who uses Maperitive to render maps for the GR guides will
 probably also join us on Wednesday evening.

 Jo

 2017-10-05 9:33 GMT+02:00 Pieter Brusselman <
 pieter.brussel...@tragewegen.be>:

> Hi,
>
> The last year we (trage wegen vzw) made a lot of maps based on
> OSM-data using QGIS.  On octobre 26th we give a talk about this on FOSS4G.
> But I like to come to the meeting to talk about this and sharing 
> experience
> (and stylsheets :-))
>
> Grtz,
> Pieter
>
> Pieter Brusselman
> *Cartografie ~ Projectmedewerker*
>
> [image: (logo boompja)] 
>
> *A* Kasteellaan 349
>  A,
> 9000 Gent
> *T* 09 / 331 59 27
> *W *www.tragewegen.be
>
> [image: logo facebook] 
>
> ter info: ik werk niet op vrijdag
> Op 5/10/2017 om 9:11 schreef joost schouppe:
>
> I like to use QGIS for basic stuff. E.g. use an open layers background
> map, and some data on top of that to highlight certain details. E.g. the
> maps in this diary were made with OSM data queried from overpass and some
> open layers map: http://www.openstreetmap.
> org/user/joost%20schouppe/diary/38103
>
> It's also relativly easy to use QGIS for rendering OSM data using a
> sqlite database (and that's easy to make within the package, based on a
> .pbf file). I don't have experience making a pretty map that way, but it
> can be quite useful to make maps highlighting specific kinds of data. E.g.
> maps like these are easy to make in QGIS: http://www.openstreetmap
> .org/user/joost%20schouppe/diary/40267
> (though here the data comes from the osm-history toolchain, not just
> from a pbf file)
>
> I think theoretically you could use QGIS and a stylesheet to make a
> pretty map from scratch, but haven't seen an example yet. And someone has
> been working for years on doing something similar in ArcGIS, and I don't
> think he released it yet.
>
> 2017-10-05 8:17 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> During the next Leuven Monthly OSM Meetup I would like to discuss
>> rendering. I was using Maperitive in the past to create this:
>>
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Pad_van_
>> Ad_op_OSM.png
>>
>> I know. I should update that map more regularly...

[OSM-talk-be] Event on OpenLayers3 - 18th april - Brussels - 19h-22h

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello,

OSGeo.be, the belgian local chapter of OSGeo, will organize its first
OSGeoDevEvening, an evening where developers/researchers can learn &
speak about a specific tech.

The subject is OpenLayers 3 (and also about webmapping), the speakers
are Thomas Gratier (http://webgeodatavore.com - Nantes) and Pierre
Marchand (http://atelier-cartographique.be - Bruxelles).

It will take place on monday 18 april from 19h to 22h at Bruxelles
Environnement (Avenue du Port, 1000 Bruxelles).

For more details & reservation :
https://www.eventbrite.fr/e/billets-osgeodevevening-openlayers3-24251072611

Marc

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[OSM-talk-be] Comparison between OSM buildings and Urbis buildings

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello,

Every 3 months, the layer UrbAdm of Urbis is updated and we do not
have an automatic way to know what to update in OSM. So I tried some
experiments and I write an article about it :
http://blog.champs-libres.coop/carto/2015/12/01/comparaison-urbis-osm.html

As the article is in French, here is a quick explanation in En :
- the OSM data & Urbis data are loaded in a PostGIS database
- for the moment only one type of polygons that are different in Urbis
& OSM are detected :
 - polygons such that :
  - there is an intersection between the osm polygon and the urbis polygon
  - the Hausdorff distance between the osm polygon and the urbis
polygon is greater than 0.0015 (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausdorff_distance )

Theses polygons are there :
https://cloud.champs-libres.coop/index.php/s/GpGVahe6wMCtPNn

The method can easily improved to detect polygons that are in urbis
and not is OSM (and vice-versa). But there is some work to perform to
detect more precisely the difference and also for dealing with
multi-polygons

Marc

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Robot pour CP manquants à Bruxelles - A bot for missing postal codes [FR-EN]

[Marc Ducobu]

On 7 December 2015 at 18:30, Glenn Plas  wrote:
> On 06-12-15 18:25, Bruno Veyckemans wrote:
>> OK, Thanks for your answers.
>>
>> I understand that some of you consider postal code as redundant
>> information in Belgium. Maybe it is... but I'm not 100% convinced ;-)
>
> I consider repeating addr:postcode on every bloody building (node or
> way) in OSM a severe waste of resources, not only in size of the databse
> but also in efforts by mappers... relations are exactly meant to make
> your live easier by not repeating the same information over an over
> again that can easily be derived from existing data itself.
>
> You really don't have to calculate it  http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/d8S
>
> The only reason I believe it is useful is when a bordercase goes wrong
> and you want to help geocoding/reverse geocoding a bit.
>
> You don't repeat addr:city or addr:country and on every node/building in
> Belgium either, we know where it is by using the coordinates.  It's the
> same for postal codes once you have the boundary borders, it's piece of
> cake in any programming language to figure out if a point is inside or
> outside a polygon.

I agree.

For the website ici.brussels how do you load the POI ?

If you do it in you php script you can load all the POI, then all the
postcodes then use a library like https://github.com/phayes/geoPHP to
compute the postal code of the POI.

>
>
>> When I use OSM as a database with Overpass Turbo, I like to receive
>> postal code as a variable and display it without having to calculate it
>> (maybe there's another way to do this ?).
>
> Again, that word calculate, makes me wonder where that idea comes from.
>  Could you elaborate ?
>
>> PS: I hope this answer will be associated with the correct thread...
>> This is my first answer in the mailing-list and I'm definitely not a geek :)
>
> I found it! So A-OK.  Welcome!
>
> Glenn
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] About what I think that we can write and not write on a mailing list

[Marc Ducobu]

I agree too.

Marc

On 1 June 2015 at 21:58, Matthieu Gaillet mgwebm...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I was about to send the same message but as newcomer (and being afraid of
 escalation) I refrained to do it. I sent a message to
 talk-be-ow...@openstreetmap.org but didn’t get an answer.

 — +1, Julien.

 Matthieu

 On 01 Jun 2015, at 16:24, Julien Fastré jul...@fastre.info wrote:

 Hi,

 Le 29/05/15 11:53, André Pirard a écrit :

 Sauf que Polyglot dit que c'est dans dans les changesets que doivent se
 trouver ces informations et qu'il y a encore moins de chances que
 l'utilisateur ouvre l'history que le panneau de gauche, surtout quand
 Polyglot utilise l'history pour communiquer ses états d'âme.


 la meilleure manière de les voir est d'utiliser Waymarked Trails dans lequel
 on voit (cliquer sur Route et puis sur une route) que Polyglot n'a mis aucun
 © du tout.

 I am a bit tired of this kind or remarks which does not help to build a
 community based on cooperation, mutual learning, etc.

 This is one of the cause I read the mailing list more and more sparsely
 those times. I does worry that it might also afraid newcomers here.

 May I ask you, André, to write message shorter (please restraint to a couple
 of lines), with facts and not opinion, and which does not aim to convince
 other people (especially you) that some mappers does wrong job or that other
 people make mistakes ?

 I would appreciate.

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[OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month : eMerzh

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello OSM Belgium,

Proud to present you our new mapper of the month: eMerzh!

NL: http://osm.be/nl/content/mappers-van-de-maand-mei-brice-emerzh
FR: http://osm.be/fr/content/contributeur-du-mois-de-mai-brice-emerzh

Thanks a lot to the translation team. If you have some time, feel free
to join us!

Best greetings,

Marc

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Communiqué de presse carto-party

[Marc Ducobu]

J'ai mis à jour.

Marc

2015-04-21 22:12 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be:

 Le Mar 21 avril 2015 20:33, Jo a écrit :
 Marc Gemis et moi ont du improviser un petit peu ou plutôt assez
 fortement.
 Notre conclusion était que avec que 4 heures il nous manquera le temps
 pour
 envoyer les gens dans les rues et les guider pour ajouter le résultat de
 leurs découvrertes à la base de OSM. La proposition de Marc était donc
 d'expliquer aux gens comment ajouter QQ chose, puis de leur demander
 d'ajouter QQ chose près de chez eux. Vers 11-12h Peter peut expliquer
 Mapillary et a 13h on peut sortir pour aller faire des photos.

 Je pense que c'est comme ça que Marc et moi l'ont dans la tête, je pense,
 mais maintenant je lis que tu écris autre chose.

 merci beaucoup Jo. Vous avez l'expérience de ce qui fonctionne. Basons
 nous sur cela. Pourrais-tu modifier le pad dans le sens de la manière que
 tu vois ?

 Je crois que c'est important d'avoir une partie pratique pour que les
 personnes puissent manipuler et contribuer, et effectivement que les gens
 ajoutent qq chose qu'ils connaissent bien, près de chez eux est une bonne
 idée.

 Merci de ton input, et merci à Marc aussi. (vous pouvez écrire dans le pad
 en néerlandais ou en anglais, on pourra faire un communiqué trilingue)


 Nicolas

 Jo
 On Apr 21, 2015 7:08 PM, Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/carto-party-com-presse

 2015-04-21 17:55 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be:
 
  Le Mar 21 avril 2015 17:50, Marc Ducobu a écrit :
  Bonjour à tous,
 
  Finalement, y a t il un communiqué de presse pour la carto party de
  samedi ? Si oui ça m'intéresse de l'avoir.
 
  pas eu le temps de l'écrire. Si tu te lance dans un pad, je
 compléterai.
 
  Ce serait une bonne idée.
 
  Il y aura sans doute des articles dans Le Soir (Alain Jenotte) et La
 Libre
  (je ne sais pas qui) mais avec un communiqué de presse, nous pourrons
 un
  peu mieux guider les journalistes.
 
  Du matériel dans les liens ci-dessous :
 
  Le lendemain, à ESI (67 rue royale) filmer la cartopartie durant
 laquelle
  nous allons améliorer la carte libre openstreetmap pour les handicapés
  (voir http://wheelmap.org) et pour les cyclistes (voir
  http://opencyclemap.org). Adresse : rue royale 67 à 1000 Bruxelles
 entre
  9h et 10h puis entre 11h30 et 13h.
 
  [1] http://opencyclemap.org/, une cartographie pour cyclistes ;
  [2] http://wheelmap.org/, une cartographie pour personnes à mobilité
 réduite
 
  Voir
 http://www.lasemainenumerique.be/Invitation-a-une-Cartopartie.html
  ou https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn pour l'inscription
  ou http://www.heb.be/esi/supports/cartopartie.htm
  ou
 
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Invitation_.C3.A0_une_Cartopartie_.5B1.5D_.C3.A0_Bruxelles_-_Samedi_25_Avril_2015.2C_9h_.C3.A0_13h
 
  Le créateur de Mapillary http://www.mapillary.com/how.html une
 application
  pour faire collectivement l'équivalent de street view sera présent.
 
  Comme dit, l'activité 2/ se passe en 3 temps :
 
  a) 1h pour savoir comment faire, recevoir des documents papiers à
  compléter ou installer une application sur son smartphone,
  b) 1h pour aller sur le terrain mesurer, photographier, noter ... et
  prendre des notes
  c) 1h pour ensemble, sur des ordinateurs, encoder les données dans
  openstreetmap.
 
  L'objectif est donc que les gens deviennent indépendants.
 
  Le public peut apporter si possible son ordinateur portable pour que
 tout
  le monde puisse dans la phase c) travailler et pratiquer.
 
  Merci ) toi,
 
  Nicolas
 
  (qui prépare une conférence sur creative commons pour ce soir)
  Belle journée.
 
  Marc
 
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[OSM-talk-be] Communiqué de presse carto-party

[Marc Ducobu]

Bonjour à tous,

Finalement, y a t il un communiqué de presse pour la carto party de
samedi ? Si oui ça m'intéresse de l'avoir.

Belle journée.

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[OSM-talk-be] How to create a map from OSM with QGIS - Comment créer une carte à partir d'OSM avec QGIS

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello,

I write a tutorial explaining how to create a map with QGIS and the
OSM data. For this work I create a QGIS style that highlight the
cyclist infrastructure. The idea is to invite cyclists at the map
party, show them the map at the beginning of the party and at the end
show them the improved map.

For the moment the tutorial is in french :
http://blog.champs-libres.coop/carto/2015/04/10/creer-une-carte-cycliste-avec-osm-et-qgis.html
and if I have the time I will translate it in english.

The QGIS is on github :
https://github.com/Champs-Libres/QGIS-OSM-styles. Feel free to use it
and improve it !

- - - - -

Salut,

J'ai écrit un tutorial expliquant comment créer une carte avec QGIS à
partir des données OSM (
http://blog.champs-libres.coop/carto/2015/04/10/creer-une-carte-cycliste-avec-osm-et-qgis.html
). La carte met en avant certaines infrastructures cyclistes. L'idée
est de l'utiliser lors de la mapping party de bxl : montrer l'état de
la carte avant l'événement, améliorer les données OSM et le voir sur
la carte.

Les styles QGIS se trouvent sur github
https://github.com/Champs-Libres/QGIS-OSM-styles, n'hésitez pas à
l'utiliser et pourquoi pas à l'améliorer !

Marc

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[OSM-talk-be] Find an open alternative for asana

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello,

# Test
I tested open alternatives for asana (found on http://alternativeto.net)

## Trac
Not tested as excluded by discussion in the mailing list.

## Taiga.io
It is a kanban app. The name of the lists are defined and can't be
change ( New, Ready, In Progress, Ready For Test, Done and Archived).

## Libreboard
It is a trello copy. We can create the lists that we want and add
tasks for each list (+ comments). There is an archived possibility,
but it is not possible to display the archived task for a given list
(it do not work for the moment).

## TaskBoard
Same remarks than Taiga.io

## Kanboard
Same remarks than Taiga.io

# Conclusion

I think than libreboard is what we need. Because it is very flexible
and we can organize the lists as we want.

The solution can be self-hosted and you can try here :
http://libreboard.com/boards/qTETgRLfKrGxrEFz8/openstreetmap-belgium
The self-hosted solution is the easier one but I don't really know how
to have back the data (maybe by email)... In the other hand these data
are not so important...

Also we can host the solution by ourself but it can be tricky : it is
an meteor app... They advise to use Docker ou sandstorm.

Marc

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group! (was: 'Mapper of the month')

[Marc Ducobu]

I think it is this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsf4OxUDS44

It seems very simple. Maybe I'll go in this direction. Thanks a lot.

Marc

On 16 March 2015 at 23:41, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The only one I can think of is Maperitive.

 There is also this article on QGIS that I should still read:

 https://twitter.com/martinstabe/status/573893617909108737

 Jo

 2015-03-16 23:21 GMT+01:00 Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.com:

 Yes this is really nice to see the bicycle tags on a slippy map. We
 can present it during the mapping party. But ideally I'll want to have
 a tool for creating PNG / PDF image for OSM with a nice presentation
 of the bicycle tags. Do you know such a tool ?

 Marc

 On 8 March 2015 at 21:53, Marc Zoutendijk marczoutend...@mac.com wrote:
 
  Op 8 mrt. 2015, om 21:41 heeft Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.com het
  volgende geschreven:
 
  A french cyclist association create this map :
  http://bicyclette69.free.fr/carte/carte.html. This map is really nice.
  But I think they use maperitive which is proprietary.
 
 
  For me, that site is not working at all. It responds to no click
  whatsoever.
 
  This site does the job quiet well:
 
  http://mijndev.openstreetmap.nl/~ligfietser/fiets/?map=cyclewayszoom=14lat=45.75156lon=4.86038layers=B0TFF
 
  And it has a lot of useful options.
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group!

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Thanks but I want to use a custom style.

On 16 March 2015 at 23:47, Marc Coevoet ma...@dommel.be wrote:
 Op 16-03-15 om 23:21 schreef Marc Ducobu:

 Yes this is really nice to see the bicycle tags on a slippy map. We
 can present it during the mapping party. But ideally I'll want to have
 a tool for creating PNG / PDF image for OSM with a nice presentation
 of the bicycle tags. Do you know such a tool ?

 Marc


 These can help ...

 http://www.maposmatic.org/

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group! (was: 'Mapper of the month')

[Marc Ducobu]

Yes this is really nice to see the bicycle tags on a slippy map. We
can present it during the mapping party. But ideally I'll want to have
a tool for creating PNG / PDF image for OSM with a nice presentation
of the bicycle tags. Do you know such a tool ?

Marc

On 8 March 2015 at 21:53, Marc Zoutendijk marczoutend...@mac.com wrote:

 Op 8 mrt. 2015, om 21:41 heeft Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:

 A french cyclist association create this map :
 http://bicyclette69.free.fr/carte/carte.html. This map is really nice.
 But I think they use maperitive which is proprietary.


 For me, that site is not working at all. It responds to no click whatsoever.

 This site does the job quiet well:
 http://mijndev.openstreetmap.nl/~ligfietser/fiets/?map=cyclewayszoom=14lat=45.75156lon=4.86038layers=B0TFF

 And it has a lot of useful options.

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonia : new dataset : elevation data

[Marc Ducobu]

Very nice news.

I didn't get the meaning of your sentence : The SPW might us know
that we are allowed to use their data for osm , can we already use it
in OSM ?

On 13 March 2015 at 15:33, Julien Fastré jul...@fastre.info wrote:
 Hi,

 I have two news with SPW / Wallonia, I will separate those news into two
 threads.

 Wallonia has published this week a brand new digital elevation model :
 http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/render/live/en/sites/geoportail/home/geocatalogue.html?mdUUID=1365808b-36f9-4cd3-8ca7-c5aafbe93170

 This was calculated with lidar, with a vertical precision of 12 cm, and
 around 1 dot/meter sq.

 What about elevation ? Osm is in 2d, we do not gather elevation data !

 I know about that; but what might be very intersting is that there is
 also a [modèle numérique de surface / digital surface model.]

 This allow us to see buildings and trees very clearly. Example here, in
 Namur :
 http://geoportail.wallonie.be/WalOnMap/#BBOX=185392.55536360716,185807.6874438713,128187.20688341379,128421.09901786472#MSS=MNS2013,true,100,0:true|;#BMS=FDP|100;FDPANNO|100;#TOC=MNS2013

 Where shadows does not allow to see clearly where are the building
 border, the DSM might help us. It also hide unuseful details.

 Trees are also visible. And we might calculate the building height.

 The SPW might us know that we are allowed to use their data for osm :-)

 What do you think ?

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

[Marc Ducobu]

I think that State of the map belgium is a more wise choice. But
sometimes it is worthful to not being too wise...

I'm ok to help but I have also a lot of work...


On 11 March 2015 at 12:07, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks Pieter-Jan for keeping an eye on things as always! ;-)

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Pieter-Jan Pauwels
 pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org wrote:

 One of the ideas for the next Open Belgium Conferences was even to have a
 specific main theme (eg. OSM) each year in stead of trying to cover every
 Open Knowledge aspect.


 The more I think about this, the more I think we can do this. We can even
 show we have experience organizing great events! ;-) We should try and
 meetup with the OSM-people willing to help and setup a roadmap to submit a
 proposal by the 16th of april. The fact that we are even considering this is
 already a win for me!

 Cheers,

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month

[Marc Ducobu]

I asked to someone from OSM France if they use such a tool. I'm
wainting the response.

But I'm ok to use trac that I never use.

How do we organise ourself ?


On 6 March 2015 at 21:50, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote:
 Hi Marc,

 Redmine is dreadful to setup in the first place, using nginx + passenger
 it is doable but once you need to apply updates to ruby it goes south.
 I professionally support redmine installs and I hate them, so I like the
 idea a lot but not the software you suggest.

 It's fine at first but with some plugins you start to hit the rails/ruby
 versioning issues that make it hell to support and keep it secure.

 On the other hand, maybe we can use trac like JOSM does.  The tool
 http://trac.edgewall.org/ might not be fancy, but all I ever need to do
 is run the standalone version behind an nginx webserver and it runs for
 years , written in python.  With the limited resources we have, we need
 some low mainteance thing.

 Trac is also nice since it doesn't 'force' a ticket flow, you can just
 invent one that suits you.  It's a project help tool more than a
 ticketing/helpdesk tool like redmine. (which is ok as long as you don't
 have to touch it after a sucessfull initial install)

 Greetings,

 Glenn

 PS: I also feel that all the sudden we have a boost in this community,
 it's awesome and contagious too!




 On 06-03-15 21:36, Marc Ducobu wrote:
 Hello every one !

 I have the impression that all of us wants to develop the community of
 OSM belgium and I'm happy about it! Moreover it is nice to see that we
 have a reflexion about it.

 I like a lot the idea of the 'todo' because some people wants to help
 but doesn't know what to do (sometimes too much emails to read, no
 occasion to talk in real life with others, ...). Redmine (
 http://www.redmine.org/ ) can be useful tool for that (maybe there is
 other tool more efficient, even a page on the drupal site is
 enough...). But I think that the must important step is to have a
 reflexion about the organisation of this todo list because it can be
 very messy and so useless. Maybe we can contact other local community
 to know if they use such a tool...

 Also I think that it will be interesting is to have a national meeting
 once a year (or twice). To build a community, it is important to meet
 each others in real. Also it can be a good occasion to motivate new
 people to help us...

 Have a nice we.

 Marc

 On 6 March 2015 at 09:29, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be wrote:
 Le jeu. 5 mars 2015 à 21:45, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 And to Nicolas, it would indeed be nice to have a direct link to all the
 mappers of the month. I'll have a look if I can add a keyword or
 something...

 thanks

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group! (was: 'Mapper of the month')

[Marc Ducobu]

A french cyclist association create this map :
http://bicyclette69.free.fr/carte/carte.html. This map is really nice.
But I think they use maperitive which is proprietary.

Why not create an XML mapnik style to have an equivalent map ? I think
about starting with osm bright ( https://github.com/mapbox/osm-bright/
) and adding cycling feature... I never do this but I think that we
can use Tilemill ( https://www.mapbox.com/tilemill/ ) to create the
carto css file that can be converted into the xml mapnik style.

Proposing to cyclists a way to create easily a cycling map can attract
a lot of persons. And the message is very simple : you like this map
? you want it for your city ? it is simple : encode (properly) the
cycling infrastructure in OSM and you'll have the map.

For the Gracq there exists a lot of local chapter (
http://www.gracq.be/GRACQ/006Contacts-002Locales ). I involve in the
Mons chapter and the people of the chapter are very interested to
discover OSM (and why not generate a map) and most of the people of
the Gracq will go to the 25 Avril event as it is a training on a
special subject.

Marc

On 7 March 2015 at 05:51, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be wrote:
 Hello,

 For April 25, we still need experienced mappers.

 For your information, a colleague of mine (Michel Willemse) who registered
 and will be present, is an active cyclist. He has already contacted Gracq,
 fietsersverbond ... GRACQ has reacted very positively ... but for the date :
 they already have a cyclist event in the very nearby parc de Bruxelles.

 Michel's idea is that, if the weather permit, instead or on top of doing
 some activities to start with and describe OSM, what can be done during the
 morning ... we (or at least some of us) do something similar at the Parc for
 the cyclist, leveraging the large number of cyclists who will be present for
 Gracsq's event. We could do so simply by preparing paper maps to fill and
 some printed papers to distribute stating where to download mapilliary /
 osmand (or the best OSM mapping tool), what to do ... I am thinking to a 1
 page, simple to read, instructions.

 Yes, as Marc proposes, next time, we'll contact the walkers groups and maybe
 the people responsible for tourism in Brussels. We could also leverage them
 to better describe Brussels as a touristic place and map everything that
 could be touristically interessant and make links to descriptions (if
 possible text + sounds + videos)

 But this will be for another time.

 I am even considering that one activity that could become repetitive, with a
 short repeat time (if handled by the tourist authorities who pay a leader)
 would be guided tours of Brussels with mapping purposes. I am dreaming of
 tours every saturday morning for example, where walkers in the city would
 discover a new location in the city and at the same time map everything they
 encounter during the visit. Can you imagine what a good map we would hava
 after one year only ?

 With many information and on top, 52 guided tours on OSM.

 Have a good week end,

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello every one !

I have the impression that all of us wants to develop the community of
OSM belgium and I'm happy about it! Moreover it is nice to see that we
have a reflexion about it.

I like a lot the idea of the 'todo' because some people wants to help
but doesn't know what to do (sometimes too much emails to read, no
occasion to talk in real life with others, ...). Redmine (
http://www.redmine.org/ ) can be useful tool for that (maybe there is
other tool more efficient, even a page on the drupal site is
enough...). But I think that the must important step is to have a
reflexion about the organisation of this todo list because it can be
very messy and so useless. Maybe we can contact other local community
to know if they use such a tool...

Also I think that it will be interesting is to have a national meeting
once a year (or twice). To build a community, it is important to meet
each others in real. Also it can be a good occasion to motivate new
people to help us...

Have a nice we.

Marc

On 6 March 2015 at 09:29, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be wrote:
 Le jeu. 5 mars 2015 à 21:45, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 And to Nicolas, it would indeed be nice to have a direct link to all the
 mappers of the month. I'll have a look if I can add a keyword or
 something...

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group! (was: 'Mapper of the month')

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello everyone.

Here is my reflexion about this conversation.

#Todo list

Thanks Ben for the todo list. But we have to detail it like
- what are the problems of the drupal website (blog language ? ).

Also it is good to have a tool that permit to the list to progress,
create new category (one of this category can be the 25 avril event...
).

I can try to help for the website improvement, sometimes for the
french communication,...

#Mapping party

It is nice to have some mapping party but I think that a Belgium
meeting (not only a mapping party is also interresing). The idea about
this meeting is to develop the community : meeting each other, talk
about how to develop the community, invite poeple for other community,


Also it is nice to have some mapping party but we have to be careful
trying to do 6 mapping party this year is maybe too ambitious. I
prefer to have 3 good mapping parties in Belgium during 5 years than 6
during one year and nothing after. I don't want to refrain someone to
organise mapping party, but we have to have attainable goals and there
is a lot of work.

A way to attract beginners in OSM is to contact ASBL / VZW  or local
organisation that can be interesting in OSM. For the 25 april we can
contact the Gracq ( also the local chapter of the Gracq ) and the
fietsersbond (I don't know if there exist local chapter). Another time
we can contact walker group (and explain how to put osm on a gps
device), tourism association, ...).

Marc


On 6 March 2015 at 09:36, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 So what I'm saying is: we need more and better source material. It's not
 difficult for people to help out with gathering / surveying this.

 Then during a mapping party, we can focus on using these pictures to add
 details to the map.

 The mapping party would serve to bring people with specific interests into
 contact with people who know how to add /integrate them into the OSM data.


 That's indeed a very good starting point. This is something that can be done
 during a mapping party.

 As a side note, pictures taking from cars do not always have the quality
 that is needed to use for mapping.
 I followed a track of pictures on Mapillary the other day, but the
 destination signs (in which I was interested were barely readable.)
 Typically to far away and the next one was past the sign. The problem to
 read the name of a pub. Lot's of work to get the sharp picture in the right
 spot.
 But after reading the thread on the Dutch forum on Mapillary, I wonder
 whether the company is interested in high-res pictures.

 regards

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [42] Hackathon eTourisme 2015

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello,

I will probably take part on Friday. I think that Julien Minet will also go
there.

A question is how can OSM be used to create a usefull tool/app/... on this
topic ?

Also, the data will be open during the event but it is not gain that the
data will be open after the event. A goal of the event is to convince the
owner to open their data.

Marc

On 5 February 2015 at 10:55, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 This seems interesting. I won't be able to go as I don't have a credit
 card to pay the €20, but maybe somebody else wants to go and hack on some
 open data.

 Jo

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 From: Hugues Ligot hugues.li...@gmail.com
 Date: 2015-02-05 10:12 GMT+01:00
 Subject: [42] Hackathon eTourisme 2015
 To: 4...@discuss.hackerspaces.be


 Hey hackers,

 We organise in march the first eTourisme hackathon in Belgium. It will
 take place in Libramont from March 20 to 21.
 Many public data files will be open for the event.

 I heard from Hugo Herter, you might have some interest in it, so here is
 the info !

 Feel free to contact me or check our website (hackalux.be
 http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XZs3MhNz6W3MhG_41qwqm4W3Mqkws56dVd2f6jRgQq02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fhackalux.be%2Fsi=5615661674397696pi=8f783747-fc4e-4658-d4b5-703e512d1b69
  FR)
 for more informations.


 Happy hacking,

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Extraction de communes / halen gemeenten

[Marc Ducobu]

2013/11/28 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com

  On 2013-11-28 11:55, Jean-Louis Stanus wrote :


  *FR*
  Bonjour,

  Comment puis-je extraire les communes de belgique en .osm ou où obtenir
 un .shp?

 C'est-à dire? Leurs noms, leurs étiquettes, leurs frontières?
 Manière visuelle: utiliser JOSM et ne charger que les frontières de proche
 en proche.
 On choisit ce qu'on veut.
 On peut enregistrer un fichier OSM ou GPX.
 C'est ce qui est fait 
 ici.http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/Belgium/Belgium.html

   Comment expliquer que certaines communes sont bien délimitées et
 d'autres non?

 C'est à dire? Peut-être un exemple?

Pour un site internet de signalement de problème vélo nous avons
travaillé avec les données OSM et pour certains signalements étant proches
des limites d'une commune nous avons constaté que certaines limites
communales n'étaient pas totalement justes (nous avons comparé les données
avec celle de l'IGN).




 Cheers,

   André.



  *NL*
  Hallo,

  Hoe kan ik halen de gemeenten in België in .osm file of waar .shp
 krijgen.?
 Hoe komt het dat sommige gemeenten goed worden gedefinieerd en anderen
 niet?

  Merci
 Dank u

  Cordialement,

  JL



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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ter herinnering / A reminder -- Google Hangout

[Marc Ducobu]

Hello,

I have already some plans on friday evening so it will not be possible for
me to join the hangout. I think it is possible to record an hangout on
youtube. Will you do that (for the presentations)?

Regards

Marc


On 6 November 2013 12:14, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ter herinnering: Er gaat een Google Hangout door deze vrijdag vanaf 20u.
 Voor een mogelijke agenda: zie
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities

 Iedereen welkom.

 A reminder: We'll have a google hangout on Friday at 8pm
 for a possible agenda, see
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities

 Feel free to join

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ter herinnering / A reminder -- Google Hangout

[Marc Ducobu]

According to www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts/onair.html it seems to be
possible but I never use this.


On 6 November 2013 12:46, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have discussed recording hangouts during the last hangout.
 Unfortunately, it was not possible (as far as the participants knew). There
 is a new way, just introduced this week by Google, for giving
 presentations. Unfortunately it's only 1 way communication as I understood.
 If you happen to know how to record a hangout it, let us know. If
 participant agrees, we can record it.

 regards

 m


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 Hello,

 I have already some plans on friday evening so it will not be possible
 for me to join the hangout. I think it is possible to record an hangout on
 youtube. Will you do that (for the presentations)?

 Regards

 Marc


 On 6 November 2013 12:14, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ter herinnering: Er gaat een Google Hangout door deze vrijdag vanaf 20u.
 Voor een mogelijke agenda: zie
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities

 Iedereen welkom.

 A reminder: We'll have a google hangout on Friday at 8pm
 for a possible agenda, see
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities

 Feel free to join

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