Re: [OSM-talk] Big Blue Button download

[Naveen Francis]

Hello Rory,

Can you please see if the video for Aug 8, 2020- 9-10 pm IST is there ?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Virtual_Mappy_Hours

We will move the videos to our youtube channel
 .


thanks,
naveenpf


On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:24 PM Rory McCann  wrote:

> Hi Martijn,
>
> Great to see people using the BBB server. We didn't ask to delete
> anything, the video is still there (I sent you the link off-list). When you
> view the Room in BBB, you should see “Room Recordings” underneath, which
> should have the recordings, do you see that? Then click on “Presentation”,
> and you should be able to watch the video in your browser.
>
> In Firefox I can right click on a video and “Save Video As…”, which should
> allow you to download the video. Does that work?
>
> Rory
>
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020, at 4:16 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I recorded a video on the OSMF big blue button server. I think OSMF
> > asked to download and delete as quickly as possible to save on storage
> > plan costs, but I may be misremembering. Regardless, I don't know how
> > to download my own video, can someone explain how that works please?
> > Many thanks!
> > --
> >   Martijn van Exel
> >   m...@rtijn.org
> >
> > ___
> > talk mailing list
> > talk@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
> >
>
> ___
> talk mailing list
> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] India:Kerala: State to launch crowd-sourced mapping project

[Naveen Francis]

Hello,

Kerala Govt has started mapping project in OpenStreetMap

OSM Kerala community had a technical consultation earlier in March 2019[1]

Our CM has urged everyone to map in OpenStreetMap.
He had a video conference with NSS volunteers as a part of
the inauguration [2]
News from national daily[3]
A video in Malayalam has been released to promote the MapathonKeralam. [4]

Website :- http://mapathonkeralam.in/

1.https://twitter.com/osm_in/status/1187531834571153408
2.https://twitter.com/naveenpf/status/1191030974538104832/photo/1
3.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/state-to-launch-crowd-sourced-mapping-project/article29759392.ece

4. https://twitter.com/osm_in/status/1187529544317595648

thanks,
naveenpf
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

[Naveen Francis]

Hello Nuno

I get your point
Try YOGA it will help you.

thanks,
naveenpf


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 5:18 PM Nuno Caldeira 
wrote:

>
> Às 11:02 de 29/07/2019, Naveen Francis escreveu:
> >
> > On the rhetoric question:-
> > We are using OSM maps life savings projects.
> > https://keralarescue.in/map/ . (2018 Kerala floods maps)
> > So both quantity and quality are equally important.
> >
> I don't see the attribution on that map, or that website has an
> exception like Facebook seems to have too?
>
> Oh it does attribute, but you have to scroll down to see it. must be a
> UX mistake...
>
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

[Naveen Francis]

Thanks Simon for the caution.

Taking the of help AI doesn't mean that we do comprise on the quality.

All the methods for initial road tracing, GPS tracing, Satellite image
tracing or AI-assisted human mapping (which I have tried) has limitations.

On Indian roads, we try to document as much as possible so that we don't
make errors.  <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Roads>

On the rhetoric question:-
We are using OSM maps life savings projects. https://keralarescue.in/map/ .
(2018 Kerala floods maps)
So both quantity and quality are equally important.

Another good thing is we have already implemented your suggestion -
sensible comparison would be completeness measures per road categories

Categories wise completeness
NH : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:National_Highways_(statewise)
SH:- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Roads#State_highways

All the best for fixing Tiger imports.

thanks,
naveenpf


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 4:15 PM Simon Poole  wrote:

>
> Am 26.07.2019 um 19:30 schrieb Naveen Francis:
>
> Including my ₹ 0.10 (Indian ten paisa)
>
> Echoes same thoughts of Brazilian Real.
>
> AI-assisted human mapping tools will be a good aid for the OSM community.
>
> "Map faster, Map better".
>
> 40,00,000 kms to be mapped in India.
> 15 years of OSM mapped 18,00,000 kms.
>
> The (rhetoric) question is, why is this the case?
>
> Because the community in India is still very small relative to the
> population size.
>
> So from where will the additional contributors come from that will turn
> the additional 4 million road geometries in to something really useful?
> There is a real danger of the desire for "completeness" instead of quality
> resulting in multiple TIGER 2.0s, and we are just now slowly working
> ourselves out of the hole we dug (full of good intentions) with the
> original.
>
> Note on the side: outside of raw total  road length, a much more sensible
> comparison would be completeness measures per road categories (which I
> suspect is likely to look far less dramatic) and which might give more
> realistic goals for the community.
>
> Simon
>
>
> thanks,
> naveenpf
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:42 AM Sérgio V.  wrote:
>
>> Just adding my R$0,02 (Brazilian Real).
>> I guess soon the AI assisted Human mapping will happen, it may be a very
>> good help.
>> But I can't evaluate what's been publicized July 23, 2019 by
>>
>> https://ai.facebook.com/blog/mapping-roads-through-deep-learning-and-weakly-supervised-training
>> "To browse our machine learning road predictions or start mapping with
>> RapiD, please visit mapwith.ai."
>> So at "Map faster, Map better" https://mapwith.ai/#14/6.13864/6.7698 ,
>> I actually can't evaluate any result for roads at max zoom level 14, to
>> see if it's really better. I can just believe it can be.
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>
>> Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/smaprs
>> ___
>> talk mailing list
>> talk@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>
>
> ___
> talk mailing 
> listtalk@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
> ___
> talk mailing list
> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

[Naveen Francis]

Including my ₹ 0.10 (Indian ten paisa)

Echoes same thoughts of Brazilian Real.

AI-assisted human mapping tools will be a good aid for the OSM community.

"Map faster, Map better".

40,00,000 kms to be mapped in India.
15 years of OSM mapped 18,00,000 kms.

thanks,
naveenpf


On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:42 AM Sérgio V.  wrote:

> Just adding my R$0,02 (Brazilian Real).
> I guess soon the AI assisted Human mapping will happen, it may be a very
> good help.
> But I can't evaluate what's been publicized July 23, 2019 by
>
> https://ai.facebook.com/blog/mapping-roads-through-deep-learning-and-weakly-supervised-training
> "To browse our machine learning road predictions or start mapping with
> RapiD, please visit mapwith.ai."
> So at "Map faster, Map better" https://mapwith.ai/#14/6.13864/6.7698 ,
> I actually can't evaluate any result for roads at max zoom level 14, to
> see if it's really better. I can just believe it can be.
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/smaprs
> ___
> talk mailing list
> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Metrics @ Improveosm is down

[Naveen Francis]

Hello,

Metrics @ Improveosm is down
https://metrics.improveosm.org/

thanks,
naveenpf
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Language used in OSM forum/wiki/mailing list

[Naveen Francis]

Thank you Eugene for the link,

Saw this one in the Etiquette page.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Code_of_Conduct_(Draft)
I was looking for the same.

Better we try to make it a reality.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Code_of_Conduct_(Draft)#Moving_from_draft_to_reality

Thanks,
Naveen Francis

<http://wikibooks.in>


On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:18 PM Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:40 PM Naveen Francis 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any policy on the language used in OSM talk/forum/wiki ?
>> I was going through Thailand OSM forum
>> <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64430>.
>> For a raising a concern we need not use abusive language.
>> Users using abusive language should be warned, suspended or terminated
>> depending on the degree of the abuse.
>>
>
> Hi Naveen,
>
> There is no policy per se (as in something that is enforceable). But we do
> have the following pseudo-guidelines that apply across all communication
> channels hosted by the OSM Foundation:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette
>
> ~Eugene
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Language used in OSM forum/wiki/mailing list

[Naveen Francis]

Hello Frederik,

All the entities like forum/wiki/talk are global.
It would better to have common guidelines forum/wiki/talk.

Splitting the guidelines each forum say,  India forum, Germany forum would
not do any good.

I understand your point and can be part of the guideline for the forum.
First, raise in the forum.
Second, raise to Moderator.
Moderator can take the call ?

When Verdy was blocked in the Wiki , we didn't had any policy.  (still, we
don't have)
It was discussed on the random talk page.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Lyx#Verdy_p_2

Thanks,
Naveen Francis
<http://wikibooks.in>


On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:48 PM Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 21.12.2018 10:36, Naveen Francis wrote:
> > Is there any policy on the language used in OSM talk/forum/wiki ?
> > I was going through Thailand OSM forum
>
> Generally, you should only appeal to authorities if you cannot resolve
> the matter in the community. If you find that someone in the discussion
> is using an inappropriate tone, get involved, post a message yourself,
> tell them that you feel offended by something they said, and ask them to
> be more polite.
>
> If you cannot do that, or if it doesn't help, then the next step would
> be writing to the moderator(s). The Thailand forum is moderated by user
> stephankn. The moderator can edit posts or block people from
> contributing to the forum.
>
> What is or is not abusive will often depend on the usual tone of
> exchange in a region, therefore it is desirable to have rules
> interpreted by people familiar with the local customs.
>
> Discussing the tone on the Thailand forum on the international talk
> mailing list is probably much less helpful than the two suggestions I
> have made above.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
> --
> Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frede...@remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
>
> ___
> talk mailing list
> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Language used in OSM forum/wiki/mailing list

[Naveen Francis]

Hello,

Is there any policy on the language used in OSM talk/forum/wiki ?
I was going through Thailand OSM forum
<https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64430>.
For a raising a concern we need not use abusive language.
Users using abusive language should be warned, suspended or terminated
depending on the degree of the abuse.

Thanks,
Naveen Francis
<http://wikibooks.in>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

[Naveen Francis]

Some discussion are happening in OSM Asia telegram group



@OpenStreetMapAsia


On Thu 20 Dec, 2018, 8:11 PM Imre Samu 
> Techcrunch: "Grab is messing up the world’s largest mapping community’s
> data in Southeast Asia
> Remote teams incorrectly overwrote data developed by volunteer mappers in
> Thailand"
> https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/19/grab-maps-osm-thailand-southeast-asia/
>
> Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18723138  ( Please
> somebody add our community view )
>
>
>
> Christoph Hormann  ezt írta (időpont: 2018. dec. 19.,
> Sze, 12:10):
>
>> On Wednesday 19 December 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> >
>> > bist Du nicht im advisory board? Hast Du mind 1 Eur bezahlt?
>> > Kommt mir unwahrscheinlich vor ;-) Oder bringe ich da was
>> > durcheinander?
>>
>> I am on the AB because the FOSSGIS sent me there (and neither i not the
>> FOSSGIS paid anything for that).  If i wanted to be there on my own
>> accord i would have to pay EUR 10k as well.
>>
>> And to my knowledge no one ever accused the FOSSGIS or any other OSMF
>> local chapter for insufficient attribution. :-)
>>
>> Glad to hear the LWG is working on clearer attribution guidelines -
>> please make sure to clearly condemn second rate attribution like on:
>>
>>
>> https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-07/china-hat-keinen-gebietsanspruch-auf-inseln-im-suedchinesischen-meer
>>
>> --
>> Christoph Hormann
>> http://www.imagico.de/
>>
>> ___
>> talk mailing list
>> talk@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>
> ___
> talk mailing list
> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikimedia Community Wishlist 2019

[Naveen Francis]

Hello Stefano,

Can you remove T156682 and add T158919 ?
Enable auto-positioned snapshot on Kartographer side

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Miscellaneous/Wikimedia_Maps_Improvements
The above proposal has been redrafted to have only two important tasks.
Main wishes are migration to vector tile structure and fix the
international borders.


We can campaign for two proposal with five tasks ? What you say ?

--
naveenpf


On Fri 9 Nov, 2018, 8:49 PM Stefano 
>
> Il giorno mar 30 ott 2018 alle ore 18:59 Yuri Astrakhan <
> yuriastrak...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Stefano, thanks!  One important aspect - it seems a single generic
>> request with guidance gets done much better than multiple smaller items. I
>> highly recommend uniting behind the general "improve maps" request to get
>> WMF to commit to maps full time, rather than "throwing us a bone" (creating
>> a small task-oriented team with a limited time duration).  The current
>> proposal that is already gaining a lot of discussion momentum is at
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Miscellaneous/Wikimedia_Maps_Improvements
>>
>
> Since there's a risk of dropping for that proposal (because WMF wouldn't
> want to do a specific fundraising to have a proper team?), I collected the
> two main issues in this proposal
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Miscellaneous/Improved_style_and_internationalized_labels_in_Wikimedia_Maps
>
> There are a couple more which could be supported to have more OSM appear
> in wikis.
>
> Stefano
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:25 AM Stefano  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> WMF has started the call for proposals for next year implementations.
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019
>>>
>>> Since the OSM community had some 'feature requests' for wiki* projects
>>> (example: the Map internationalization without using directly OSM), I
>>> suggest to contribute to these requests now (end of the call November 11th).
>>>
>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Maps/Status_of_map_styles
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stefano
>>> ___
>>> talk mailing list
>>> talk@openstreetmap.org
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>>
>> ___
> talk mailing list
> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] United Nations World Geospatial Information Congres (UN-GGIM)

[Naveen Francis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjMNeU3ewM0


On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 2:06 PM Naveen Francis 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Any participation from openstreetmap community ?
> UNWGIC in China to explore Geospatial for a better world
> https://youtu.be/DjMNeU3ewM
>
> Thanks,
> naveenpf
> <http://wikibooks.in>
>
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] United Nations World Geospatial Information Congres (UN-GGIM)

[Naveen Francis]

Hello,

Any participation from openstreetmap community ?
UNWGIC in China to explore Geospatial for a better world
https://youtu.be/DjMNeU3ewM

Thanks,
naveenpf

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk