Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/02/10 21:16, Mike Collinson wrote:
> - British spelling "licence" noun used. (can anyone confirm that I am
> right in leaving verb license, sublicense as is, I am too long abroad).

That is correct. In standard (British :-) English, licence is the noun
and license is the verb.

> - defining active contributor as a "natural person". This serves the
> purpose of "no bots". OPEN QUESTION: We are not sure about this one as
> this it excludes corporations or other legally organised entities. If
> they have multiple accounts for individual staff, it has the reverse
> effect. Perhaps not a good idea? Comments welcome.

I think that if a corporation has multiple people actively working on
the map, that's fair enough - multiple votes. I don't think you'd have
more scope for sockpuppetry than you might with normal users. ("Hey, I
can get 12 votes instead of 1 by editing with a different account every
month...") Well, perhaps it would be harder to detect because you'd
_expect_ them all to have the same IP...

Gerv


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
Thanks Oliver. 

We have a separate project to look at general terms of use of OSM and OSMF 
websites where this certainly is an issue. These Contributor Terms are strictly 
for the addition of geodata. We have not been advised it has been an issue but 
it will do no harm to check explicitly if not already done.

Mike

At 10:40 PM 23/02/2010, Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) wrote:

>"Apart from that, this is the version we would like to finalise on and which
>has had legal review.  Please shout if you see any holes."
>
>Hi Michael,
>
>I wonder if there should not be a clarification that any content provided
>should (a) NOT contain material that is false, intentionally misleading, or
>defamatory; contains material that is unlawful, including illegal hate
>speech or pornography; exploits or otherwise harms minors; or violates or
>advocates the violation of any law or regulation and (b) be in line with
>some generic principles of content that is welcome?
>
>I have not seen any other terms that consider these points.
>
>Regards,
>Oliver


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[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_48c4sgs3d4
 shows where we are at.

We've one open question about "natural person" below that we would appreciate 
input on.

Apart from that, this is the version we would like to finalise on and which has 
had legal review.  Please shout if you see any holes. We'll be proceeding to 
make French and Italian translations as soon as we can.

Thanks to Francis Davey for a number of specific suggestions.

Changes:

- British spelling "licence" noun used. (can anyone confirm that I am right in 
leaving verb license, sublicense as is, I am too long abroad).

- Edit period for active contributors extended from last 6 to last 12 months to 
enfranchise more contributors and to take into account folks who edit 
seasonally.

- We'd rather not insert an explicit phrase about suing. It is our 
understanding from legal review that OSMF clearly has the right to sue for 
copyright violations from its database right and copyright in the collective. 
On a practical level, we'd also be wanting to pursue effective methods within 
our means such as name-and-shaming. We therefore still feel this is better 
dealt with by creating explicit community guidelines. 

- an ambiguity in clause 3 removed by the insertion of the word "and".

- defining active contributor as a "natural person". This serves the purpose of 
"no bots". OPEN QUESTION: We are not sure about this one as this it excludes 
corporations or other legally organised entities. If they have multiple 
accounts for individual staff, it has the reverse effect. Perhaps not a good 
idea? Comments welcome.


Mike
License Working Group
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