Ed,
I also map eating places in reasonable detail as it will be very useful when
OSM search engines expand to local POI searches, as I am sure they will. We
are in a distinct minority at the moment so I suggest personal experimentation
and then make specialist proposal(s) if no one else does.
From experience, it is best to have as few general qualitative tag values as
possible so that they are memorable and do not require great thought in
choosing which one to use. For eating places that is amenity = restaurant,
cafe, fast_food. If they are used without any supporting tags, they still give
a reasonable though not precise indication of what the decor is going to be
like and what you might have to pay even though the distinction can be blurry
as you rightly point out - is the local bistro a cafe or restaurant? Any more
categories and it gets really difficult.
Then carefully add specialist tags which most folks can cheerfully ignore or
add later.
As far as I know, there has been no proposals covering takeaway, delivery,
drive_thru =yes/no. I think they'd make a good addition, I'll join you adding
them.
Do feel free to just go ahead and add new specialist tags to the database. I
am a great and active proponent of Map Features as a place to gradually evolve
a coherent set of globally useful tags but it is only part of the way forward.
I, for example, map gluten_free=yes because it is has a reasonably clear
meaning in context, is of great interest to me, may be useful to others but of
very minority interest.
Also have a look at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features amenity = restaurant,
cafe, fast_food
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:cuisine - I find this really useful.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:description - Useful for adding
anything that does not fit a specific tag
Mike
At 11:45 AM 9/09/2008, Ed Loach wrote:
Is it only me that finds these two classifications a bit limiting? How do
other people use them?
I'm thinking of say a restaurant where you could dine in the restaurant, order
takeaway at the counter, drive through and order at the window, or phone for a
delivery. Do I class that as a restaurant? Or does it depend on the type of
food they sell (that you can drive through suggests fast food in this example).
There are also takeaways where the service is anything but fast, especially if
they also have a busy eat-in restaurant section.
What I would have preferred is have takeaway as an option and then have say
for places where you can eat in:
amenity=restaurant
takeaway=yes/no
drive_thru=yes/no
delivery=yes/no
and where you can't eat in
amenity=takeaway
drive_thru=yes/no
delivery=yes/no
Which makes me consider that there may be places that only deliver, and
perhaps amenity=fast_food would be suitable for those? I don't think there are
any round here though; most of the delivery places also allow you to collect
if you wish.
So far I've been tagging some of the local takeaways as restaurant even if
they don't have an eat in area if I don't think of the type of food that they
sell as fast food - e.g. say Indian or Chinese takeaways where you get the
same standard of food as in the equivalent restaurant, wait as long for it to
be prepared, but take it away in cartons rather than eating it on the premises
- but feel that I should go back and revisit them. The reason is that there is
a KFC restaurant that I do think of as fast food, but has an eat in area (as
well as drive thru and takeaway options). It feels wrong tagging it as fast
food though when it is more of a restaurant than the takeaways that I've
tagged as restaurant.
Thanks for reading. If this has already been discussed I'm still fairly new;
if there is a similar proposal on the wiki then I find the wiki next to
impossible to find anything in and have taken to bookmarking any interesting
pages mentioned on this list so I can find them again easily.
Ed
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