Re: [OSM-talk] [english 94%] Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguishthem from incomplete ways
Hi Igor, the tags are great! If all renderers would show them (and in combination with the noexit-tag), we could improve quality and confidence in OSM. After my summer holiday in corfu with different paper maps, which proved to be very inaccurate (missing villages, missing junctions and roads, ...) I lost confidence when I left the big roads. OSM was far from complete, and the todo and noexit- tag would have helped me quite a bit (for my own mapping, and by others). Just think of counting junctions to your next turning off, or following a track which ends somewhere in the olive forests... Kai - Original Message - From: Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com To: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: [english 94%] Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguishthem from incomplete ways Hi, I suppose I'm the culprit for the todo=continue and todo=junction tags, since I've used them internally for some time and then added them to GroundTruth hiking rules once I developed GroundTruth. These tags are not primarily rendering-oriented, they are just pointers (for me and anyone else who cares) that certain ways were not explored (from the todo=continue point onwards) or that there is an unexplored junction on the footway. The area I'm mapping is full full full of these and I cannot cover them all in one go, so I need a way to mark them for future reference. Regards, Igor Dave F. wrote: You see, this is where I get /really /confused I see no reference to 'todo' or 'continue' in the general OSM wiki. In the Groundtruth wiki page they're highlighted red, saying there there no reference page. I'm repeatedly told don't tag for the renderers Yet it appears in this case the renderers are telling the mappers what to do. The previous post implies these tags will only work in Groundtruth renders. What am I not understanding? At the moment it looks like the left hand is deliberately not telling the right what is going on. I fully support the endeavours of OSM but the hierarchical stature of it leaves me baffled at the moment. Oh, Liz, if you're reading. please don't post to tell me some of the 'regulars' have anarchy symbols on the blog page as if that some how makes it all OK. I hope you can all show me the light. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://igorbrejc.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [english 94%] Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguishthem from incomplete ways
Heh, I lost myself on Corfu once, too... Way back in '97, using a paper map. Those were the good old student days... Igor k...@vielevisels wrote: Hi Igor, the tags are great! If all renderers would show them (and in combination with the noexit-tag), we could improve quality and confidence in OSM. After my summer holiday in corfu with different paper maps, which proved to be very inaccurate (missing villages, missing junctions and roads, ...) I lost confidence when I left the big roads. OSM was far from complete, and the todo and noexit- tag would have helped me quite a bit (for my own mapping, and by others). Just think of counting junctions to your next turning off, or following a track which ends somewhere in the olive forests... Kai - Original Message - From: Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com To: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: [english 94%] Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguishthem from incomplete ways Hi, I suppose I'm the culprit for the todo=continue and todo=junction tags, since I've used them internally for some time and then added them to GroundTruth hiking rules once I developed GroundTruth. These tags are not primarily rendering-oriented, they are just pointers (for me and anyone else who cares) that certain ways were not explored (from the todo=continue point onwards) or that there is an unexplored junction on the footway. The area I'm mapping is full full full of these and I cannot cover them all in one go, so I need a way to mark them for future reference. Regards, Igor Dave F. wrote: You see, this is where I get /really /confused I see no reference to 'todo' or 'continue' in the general OSM wiki. In the Groundtruth wiki page they're highlighted red, saying there there no reference page. I'm repeatedly told don't tag for the renderers Yet it appears in this case the renderers are telling the mappers what to do. The previous post implies these tags will only work in Groundtruth renders. What am I not understanding? At the moment it looks like the left hand is deliberately not telling the right what is going on. I fully support the endeavours of OSM but the hierarchical stature of it leaves me baffled at the moment. Oh, Liz, if you're reading. please don't post to tell me some of the 'regulars' have anarchy symbols on the blog page as if that some how makes it all OK. I hope you can all show me the light. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://igorbrejc.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://igorbrejc.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
