Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

2018-08-03 Thread Steve Doerr

On 03/08/2018 09:22, oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch wrote:
I just tried to create the 3-words address for a building in Odessa, 
Ukraine. The system suggested "dressings.cookies.brothers". It would 
be close to impossible to transmit these three words over the 
telephone to a local taxi dispatcher.


Some people may just not know English words well enough. The same 
about 8 English letters. But 8 Cyrillic letters may work. If the UTF8 
encoding is used in a database then both Latin and Cyrillic letters 
could be used, and, perhaps, other scripts.


You can set the language to Russian. This, I believe, gives the address 
as лотерея.русый.замок


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Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

2018-08-03 Thread oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch
I understand what you mean and I share your view. I would like just to mention that the European civilization absorbed others' achievements massively.For example, corn ended for good famines in Europe. At the same time, it was the product of five thousand years selection effort by people of South America. Or Hindu-Arabic numerals, or coffee from Ethiopia, the list is very long.Perhaps, it is still possible to co-develop without interference. Perhaps, by creating the new open source address system, we get the feedback and improve our obsolete 18th century address system too.Best regards,OleksiySent from my Huawei Mobile___
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Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

2018-08-03 Thread _ dikkeknodel
To me this is just another way of colonisation, forcing (technical) systems 
upon other people who have no say in them. They are communicated as a means to 
help people, but are mainly to make a buck in the end.

Instead we at OSM should leave it up to the people themselves to choose how to 
describe their location in a way they feel like, and provide a means to do so 
based on that. Technology should be designed to support people in their 
preferred way of life, not to force them to a way of life because that’s what 
most easily is implemented in technology.

Cheers,
dikkeknodel
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[OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

2018-08-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Subject changed ;)

On 03.08.2018 08:41, Maarten Deen wrote:
> The extra penalty for What3words is that you also need an active
> internet connection (or a huge offline addressing database) to convert
> the three words to a location. 

...

> Is it easier and
> quicker for me to first open some app to try and find my 8 letter
> location or my 3 What3words, or is it easier and quicker to just read
> out my gps location?

I am certainly not a what3words fan (I hope this is obvious) but in the
service of truth I need to say two things for them: First, they claim
that their offline addressing database is actually not huge, but small
enough to use on most devices. The problem is not that the database is
huge, it's that the database is protected and they'll slap a takedown
notice on anyone using it without their agreement, e.g.
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2016/2016-07-05-what3words.md.

Second, they claim that saying three natural language words on a
potentially low-quality radio or mobile phone connection leaves less
room for misreadings than dictating a string of numbers. They claim that
the dictionary has been curated in a way as to not have similar-sounding
words, a claim that, I believe, has been often ridiculed with examples
but I don't have any at hand right now.

Bye
Frederik

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