[OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
From today's Good Morning Silicon Valley newsletter: Q U O T E D I'm not against the technology; it's fantastic. But we're in an evolving world and we have to change our course as it changes. I'm all for online mapping, but knowing where the air ducts are in an air shaft is not necessary for me to navigate in the city. Who wants to know that level of detail? Bad people do. ... The fact is that I would be remiss in my job if I didn't take this seriously. I'm not interested in censoring Google or the others, but now that we know there's a threat, how could we not address this? California Assemblyman Joel Anderson, sponsor of a bill that would require online mapping services using satellite imagery to blur the details of schools, places of worship, government buildings, and medical facilities to prevent terrorists from using them for planning purposes. Full story: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10787_3-10193237-60.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
On Friday 13 March 2009 13:53:05 Mike Collinson wrote: California Assemblyman Joel Anderson, sponsor of a bill that would require online mapping services using satellite imagery to blur the details of schools, places of worship, government buildings, and medical facilities to prevent terrorists from using them for planning purposes. the Mumbai attacks showed that the only people hampered by lack of accurate maps readily available were not the terrorists, but the security forces. In emergencies maps locked in safes where the guy with the key is at home and asleep are of no help to anyone. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Q U O T E D I'm not against the technology; it's fantastic. But we're in an evolving world and we have to change our course as it changes. I'm all for online mapping, but knowing where the air ducts are in an air shaft is not necessary for me to navigate in the city. Who wants to know that level of detail? Bad people do. ... The fact is that I would be remiss in my job if I didn't take this seriously. I'm not interested in censoring Google or the others, but now that we know there's a threat, how could we not address this? Now where did we hear this argument before? General Tagge: What of the Rebellion? If the Rebels have obtained a complete technical reading of this station, it is possible, however unlikely, they might find a weakness and exploit it. Darth Vader: The plans you refer to will soon be back in our hands. Admiral Motti: Any attack made by the Rebels against this station would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. This station is now the ultimate power in the universe. I suggest we use it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
All your ducts are belong to us. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:27 AM, OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Q U O T E D I'm not against the technology; it's fantastic. But we're in an evolving world and we have to change our course as it changes. I'm all for online mapping, but knowing where the air ducts are in an air shaft is not necessary for me to navigate in the city. Who wants to know that level of detail? Bad people do. ... The fact is that I would be remiss in my job if I didn't take this seriously. I'm not interested in censoring Google or the others, but now that we know there's a threat, how could we not address this? Now where did we hear this argument before? General Tagge: What of the Rebellion? If the Rebels have obtained a complete technical reading of this station, it is possible, however unlikely, they might find a weakness and exploit it. Darth Vader: The plans you refer to will soon be back in our hands. Admiral Motti: Any attack made by the Rebels against this station would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. This station is now the ultimate power in the universe. I suggest we use it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:27 AM, OJ W May I suggest a new tag: landuse=blur Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
California Assemblyman Joel Anderson, sponsor of a bill that would require online mapping services using satellite imagery to blur the details of schools, places of worship, government buildings, and medical facilities to prevent terrorists from using them for planning purposes. Well I've just managed to find the address of a random school in Lakewood, CA, without the need for any online mapping services. Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
On Mar 13, 2009, at 4:23 AM, Mike Collinson wrote: California Assemblyman Joel Anderson, sponsor of a bill that would require online mapping services using satellite imagery to blur the details of schools, places of worship, government buildings, and medical facilities to prevent terrorists from using them for planning purposes. I called his office and left a message that he had shit for brains. I think I used different wording, however. Californians -- particularly those in his district -- should ALL be calling him and registering their opposition to brainless stupidity. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
Pieren Pieren wrote: May I suggest a new tag: landuse=blur Superb. I've been wanting a tag like that for a while. I have now used it for the first time, in a location not that far from where I live: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=51.90063lon=-1.62397zoom=15way=32060656 (warning - very _cheesy_ joke that only some UK mappers will get) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/California-bill-to-limit-detail-on-online-mapping-tools-tp22492051p22496808.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
Not to worry. I've fixed his bill for him. http://bit.ly/CwdwO ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
And yet, the exact opposite is required, for certain locations in California. Megan's Law http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/ Specific home addresses are displayed on more than 33,500 offenders in the California communities; as to these persons, the site displays the last registered address reported by the offender. An additional 30,500 offenders are included on the site with listing by ZIP Code, city, and county ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Pieren Pieren wrote: May I suggest a new tag: landuse=blur Superb. I've been wanting a tag like that for a while. I have now used it for the first time, in a location not that far from where I live: Arf, no ! If you do that, I will have to write a taging proposal on the wiki and open a vote in the next few days ;-) Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:35:30 +0100, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Pieren Pieren wrote: May I suggest a new tag: landuse=blur Superb. I've been wanting a tag like that for a while. I have now used it for the first time, in a location not that far from where I live: Arf, no ! If you do that, I will have to write a taging proposal on the wiki and open a vote in the next few days ;-) I propose that amenity=bar implies a landuse=blur! All in favor raise their mouse! *g* Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
-Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:49 AM To: Pieren Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:35:30 +0100, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Pieren Pieren wrote: May I suggest a new tag: landuse=blur Superb. I've been wanting a tag like that for a while. I have now used it for the first time, in a location not that far from where I live: Arf, no ! If you do that, I will have to write a taging proposal on the wiki and open a vote in the next few days ;-) I propose that amenity=bar implies a landuse=blur! All in favor raise their mouse! *g* Marcus I'll drink to *hic* that proposal! -Jeremy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
2009/3/13 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Pieren Pieren wrote: May I suggest a new tag: landuse=blur Superb. I've been wanting a tag like that for a while. I have now used it for the first time, in a location not that far from where I live: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=51.90063lon=-1.62397zoom=15way=32060656 (warning - very _cheesy_ joke that only some UK mappers will get) I found an error in your tagging. I've corrected it for you. Dave ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
