Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-21 Thread Lester Caine
On 21/07/15 15:35, Tom Hughes wrote:

 The user is so angry because he/she didn't know that the bug reports
 are going to be public.
 
 See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/1012
 but the short version is that we have contacted Facebook and they are in
 the process of changing what they link to.

I would not hold any hope out for any changes on Facebook in the short
term. Many of the things which are answered as hopefully fix [it] in
the next week. are now entering the FIFTH YEAR!

http://www.jasonfriend.me/facebookplaces/w/editing:incorrectlyspelledcities:europe:uk#fixed
gives you an idea of the backlog just with the primary places
information for the UK and that is only the tip of the iceberg :( I've
been promised several time over the last years that Broadway will be
moved back to Worcestershire but with no actual change.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-21 Thread 李昕迪 Lee , Sin-di
2015-07-17 10:23 GMT+08:00 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com:
 On 7/16/2015 6:42 PM, Dongpo Deng wrote:

 Does anyone have ideas why Facebook uses OSM for their checkin service in
 some Asian countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China?

 Probably one of the typical reasons, better data in what they care about,
 different cost structure, or a different license model. It's good to see.

 I'm not surprised to see Facebook move in Asia first. The traditional
 international proprietary data vendors have weaker data in much of the
 region, and the national proprietary data sources are country by country,
 and may not suit them.

 In Taiwan, just some areas are patched OSM on Here Map, e.g. Taipei City.

 Do you mean there are parts that are using both OSM and Here at the same
 time? I didn't see any, but am not familiar enough with the area.

 What I saw looked like a regional cut - taking parts of Asia from OSM. This
 is like Flickr did in Bejing with OSM, or MapQuest does with North America
 from TomTom and the rest of the world from OSM.

 I did see some quite crude cuts between what looked like two different map
 styles, but those didn't seem to align with usage of Here vs usage of OSM.

 Because of that, we get more and more Notes for reporting errors.

 Are people reporting what is a bug with Here data on OSM?

Because Facebook links the bug report directly to OSM note, there are
some notes with misunderstanding.
Such as: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/392042 ,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/397873 and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/397603

The user is so angry because he/she didn't know that the bug reports
are going to be public.


 In North America we get some reports coming from Craigslist users who have
 had a bad result from their geocoder. But they're easy to close, and I think
 it's helped with more real notes. More error reports is a great thing.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-21 Thread Tom Hughes

On 21/07/15 15:06, 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di wrote:

2015-07-17 10:23 GMT+08:00 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com:


Are people reporting what is a bug with Here data on OSM?


Because Facebook links the bug report directly to OSM note, there are
some notes with misunderstanding.
Such as: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/392042 ,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/397873 and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/397603

The user is so angry because he/she didn't know that the bug reports
are going to be public.


See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/1012 
but the short version is that we have contacted Facebook and they are in 
the process of changing what they link to.


Tom

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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-19 Thread maning sambale
thanks for the info.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Still using HERE maps on PH

 Ervin M.
 Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
 motherland.
 http://www.s1expeditions.com

 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:37 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is it the same in the PH? (I dont use FB maps or any social media
 checkins)

 cheers,

 Maning Sambale (mobile)

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dongpo Deng dongpo.d...@gmail.com
 Date: Jul 17, 2015 9:46 AM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap
 To: OSM talk t...@openstreetmap.org
 Cc:

 Hi there

 Does anyone have ideas why Facebook uses OSM for their checkin service in
 some Asian countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China?

 In Taiwan, just some areas are patched OSM on Here Map, e.g. Taipei City.
 Because of that, we get more and more Notes for reporting errors.

 https://flic.kr/p/vPxQPs
 https://flic.kr/p/vPxVMm
 https://flic.kr/p/vaaMxU

 Cheers,
 Dongpo





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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-17 Thread Michael Cole
They use their own system really here a bing maps with overlay of buildings.

If you look at Makati city hall it is only Bing that has the small walking path 
shown 
the same as bing. Google is different and OSM has a extra road shown, that 
passes 
infront of the Makati City hall, but not the walking path.

Regards Michael Cole

On Friday, July 17, 2015 7:37:00 PM maning sambale wrote:
 Is it the same in the PH? (I dont use FB maps or any social media checkins)
 
 cheers,
 
 Maning Sambale (mobile)
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dongpo Deng dongpo.d...@gmail.com
 Date: Jul 17, 2015 9:46 AM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap
 To: OSM talk t...@openstreetmap.org
 Cc:
 
 Hi there
 
 Does anyone have ideas why Facebook uses OSM for their checkin service in
 some Asian countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China?
 
 In Taiwan, just some areas are patched OSM on Here Map, e.g. Taipei City.
 Because of that, we get more and more Notes for reporting errors.
 
 https://flic.kr/p/vPxQPs
 https://flic.kr/p/vPxVMm
 https://flic.kr/p/vaaMxU
 
 Cheers,
 Dongpo
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-17 Thread Ervin Malicdem
Still using HERE maps on PH

Ervin M.
*Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
motherland.
http://www.s1expeditions.com

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:37 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Is it the same in the PH? (I dont use FB maps or any social media checkins)

 cheers,

 Maning Sambale (mobile)
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dongpo Deng dongpo.d...@gmail.com
 Date: Jul 17, 2015 9:46 AM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap
 To: OSM talk t...@openstreetmap.org
 Cc:

 Hi there

 Does anyone have ideas why Facebook uses OSM for their checkin service in
 some Asian countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China?

 In Taiwan, just some areas are patched OSM on Here Map, e.g. Taipei City.
 Because of that, we get more and more Notes for reporting errors.

 https://flic.kr/p/vPxQPs
 https://flic.kr/p/vPxVMm
 https://flic.kr/p/vaaMxU

 Cheers,
 Dongpo





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Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-16 Thread Paul Norman

On 7/16/2015 6:42 PM, Dongpo Deng wrote:
Does anyone have ideas why Facebook uses OSM for their checkin service 
in some Asian countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China?
Probably one of the typical reasons, better data in what they care 
about, different cost structure, or a different license model. It's good 
to see.


I'm not surprised to see Facebook move in Asia first. The traditional 
international proprietary data vendors have weaker data in much of the 
region, and the national proprietary data sources are country by 
country, and may not suit them.



In Taiwan, just some areas are patched OSM on Here Map, e.g. Taipei City.
Do you mean there are parts that are using both OSM and Here at the same 
time? I didn't see any, but am not familiar enough with the area.


What I saw looked like a regional cut - taking parts of Asia from OSM. 
This is like Flickr did in Bejing with OSM, or MapQuest does with North 
America from TomTom and the rest of the world from OSM.


I did see some quite crude cuts between what looked like two different 
map styles, but those didn't seem to align with usage of Here vs usage 
of OSM.



Because of that, we get more and more Notes for reporting errors.

Are people reporting what is a bug with Here data on OSM?

In North America we get some reports coming from Craigslist users who 
have had a bad result from their geocoder. But they're easy to close, 
and I think it's helped with more real notes. More error reports is a 
great thing.


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[OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-16 Thread Dongpo Deng
Hi there

Does anyone have ideas why Facebook uses OSM for their checkin service in
some Asian countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China?

In Taiwan, just some areas are patched OSM on Here Map, e.g. Taipei City.
Because of that, we get more and more Notes for reporting errors.

https://flic.kr/p/vPxQPs
https://flic.kr/p/vPxVMm
https://flic.kr/p/vaaMxU

Cheers,
Dongpo
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