Re: [OSM-talk] Final results lost mappers task force

2012-08-14 Thread Alex Barth
Simon + lost mappers task force:

Thank you so much for this important work.

(and for being patient when I came in late and asked all those questions ;)

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Simon Poole wrote:

 
 As some may remember from mid-February 2012 to essentially up to the
 redaction bot started running, the LWG undertook to get in contact with
 largest remaining non-responders that hadn't accepted the new
 contributor terms.
 
 We worked through two lists of roughly 1000 contributors each. The first
 list containing (nearly) all non-responders that had created at least
 100 highways, the smallest  being around place 20'000 in overall
 contributor ranking. The second list expanded the coverage down to the
 mark of 40 created highways (which corresponded roughly to rank 30'000).
 For both lists we had access to the e-mail address configured in the
 mappers profile, the data was made available under a confidentiality
 agreement and will now be destroyed.
 
 A further note: by February all of the accounts in the list had had at
 least two e-mails asking them to agree sent to the address configured in
 the account, the 2nd mail in their local language for the overwhelming
 majority of all mappers.
 
 From an original 1014 contributors in the first group a total of 495
 agreed, resulting in a nearly 50% success rate. Of the 2nd group of 959,
 362 agreed, giving a success rate of 38%. There was naturally some
 acceptances in both groups that weren't directly attributable to our
 efforts, but the residual acceptance rate before we started was very
 near zero and continued to be so after April the 1st up to a final
 effort just before the bot ran.
 
 I would like to thank everybody that helped in carrying this out, in
 some cases going to extremes to get hold of the contributors in question.
 
 Simon
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Final results lost mappers task force

2012-08-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
 From an original 1014 contributors in the first group a total of 495
 agreed, resulting in a nearly 50% success rate. Of the 2nd group of 959,
 362 agreed, giving a success rate of 38%. There was naturally some
 acceptances in both groups that weren't directly attributable to our
 efforts, but the residual acceptance rate before we started was very
 near zero and continued to be so after April the 1st up to a final
 effort just before the bot ran.

Out of curiosity, do you have any figures for what percentage of
contacted mappers chose to decline? (Obviously some proportion of
those that took no action probably did so intentionally, knowing the
consequences - but we won't know which).

Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] Final results lost mappers task force

2012-08-03 Thread Simon Poole
Non rigorous answer: less than a dozen I believe.

You naturally have to differentiate between genuine non-responders
which didn't respond because they didn't know (spam filter, invalid
e-mail address, e-mail account no longer in use and so on)  and
decliners that didn't accept the CTs for tactical or other reasons. As
far as possible we avoided wasting time going after the later group and
they are not included in my numbers (a couple slipped through the cracks
but in general they didn't change their position).

Simon 

Am 03.08.2012 10:26, schrieb Steve Bennett:
 On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
 From an original 1014 contributors in the first group a total of 495
 agreed, resulting in a nearly 50% success rate. Of the 2nd group of 959,
 362 agreed, giving a success rate of 38%. There was naturally some
 acceptances in both groups that weren't directly attributable to our
 efforts, but the residual acceptance rate before we started was very
 near zero and continued to be so after April the 1st up to a final
 effort just before the bot ran.
 Out of curiosity, do you have any figures for what percentage of
 contacted mappers chose to decline? (Obviously some proportion of
 those that took no action probably did so intentionally, knowing the
 consequences - but we won't know which).

 Steve



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[OSM-talk] Final results lost mappers task force

2012-08-02 Thread Simon Poole

As some may remember from mid-February 2012 to essentially up to the
redaction bot started running, the LWG undertook to get in contact with
largest remaining non-responders that hadn't accepted the new
contributor terms.

We worked through two lists of roughly 1000 contributors each. The first
list containing (nearly) all non-responders that had created at least
100 highways, the smallest  being around place 20'000 in overall
contributor ranking. The second list expanded the coverage down to the
mark of 40 created highways (which corresponded roughly to rank 30'000).
For both lists we had access to the e-mail address configured in the
mappers profile, the data was made available under a confidentiality
agreement and will now be destroyed.

A further note: by February all of the accounts in the list had had at
least two e-mails asking them to agree sent to the address configured in
the account, the 2nd mail in their local language for the overwhelming
majority of all mappers.

From an original 1014 contributors in the first group a total of 495
agreed, resulting in a nearly 50% success rate. Of the 2nd group of 959,
362 agreed, giving a success rate of 38%. There was naturally some
acceptances in both groups that weren't directly attributable to our
efforts, but the residual acceptance rate before we started was very
near zero and continued to be so after April the 1st up to a final
effort just before the bot ran.

I would like to thank everybody that helped in carrying this out, in
some cases going to extremes to get hold of the contributors in question.

Simon





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