Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Nop

Hi!

Am 30.12.2009 08:18, schrieb Maarten Deen:
 Is it just me or is there a limit to the size of the Java VM you can enter
 in Windows XP? I've had on separate occasions had to lower the limit to
 something like 1300 because it just wouldn't run.

There is a limit, though it depends heavily on your machine.

Absolute maximum on a 32bit Windows is 1600MB, a value that works on 
most machines is 1200MB.

bye
Nop

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Aun Johnsen
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Dave G 9gerk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dave F

 I found that the later versions of EasyGPS were a bit flake on Linux
 (and wine) so I stopped using it

 I have written a couple of bash scripts available here which might be
 of use to Linux users

 available from the wiki:  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gerkin

 Aun

 I would be keen to look at your GPS bash scripts/and have a hack
 around with them
 etc. if possible

 Are they available??

 cheers...dave


 Dave,

Nice to see some other people interested in my selfhacked bash scripts.
Unfortienately I will not be able to send the script in another week or so,
I'm at sea and cannot access internet with the computer where I have the
script and USB access is limited.

Basically the script is a series of sed statements to clean up mistakes made
by the program I used to download tracks from my Garmin GPS, the GPX file I
got out was messy, contained tags that was clealy program internal (not GPX
tags), time format was wrong, and it used comma (,) instead of point (.) to
separate decimals. I added also a way to save the uncleaned GPX using tar
and upload the cleaned to OSM. The uncleaned files was generally around 4MB,
while the cleaned usually came out with 800kB.

If more people are interested in it (and other similar scripts) than I will
post them at my web page later.
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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard

On 29/12/2009, at 22.25, Steve Bennett wrote:

 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want  
 to be able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing –  
 to Potlatch. And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of  
 traces into one long trace.

I use the EditGPX plugin for JOSM. These days, I normally prune down  
the GPX track so it only contains the _new_ parts of the traces that  
are not already available.

Cheers,
Morten
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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk wrote:

 On 29/12/2009, at 22.25, Steve Bennett wrote:

 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want
 to be able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing –
 to Potlatch. And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of
 traces into one long trace.

 I use the EditGPX plugin for JOSM. These days, I normally prune down
 the GPX track so it only contains the _new_ parts of the traces that
 are not already available

:-(

Having multiple GPX traces of an area is nice, in one way. Wouldbe
nice if one could handle that in some way, uploading all but not
showing everything in the API tracepoints.


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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 21:25, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
 able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
 And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long

I keep all my GPX traces in a git repository:

http://github.com/avar/gps

Then I have a script which finds out the traces I haven't uploaded already:

http://github.com/avar/gps/blob/master/script/diff-gpx-directories

I don't edit my traces aside from the occasional start,stop limit I
place with GPSbabel to cut out chunks of them. I don't have any
privacy concerns with these traces (you can find out where I live
easily enough or bore yourself to death observing where I've bicycled)
 so I pretty much just upload them as-is and make them identifiable so
hopefully you'll be able to ignore them in your editor easily if one
of my occasional point clouds distracts you.

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard


On 30/12/2009, at 14.19, Erik Johansson wrote:

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk  
wrote:


On 29/12/2009, at 22.25, Steve Bennett wrote:


What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want
to be able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing –
to Potlatch. And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of
traces into one long trace.


I use the EditGPX plugin for JOSM. These days, I normally prune down
the GPX track so it only contains the _new_ parts of the traces that
are not already available


:-(

Having multiple GPX traces of an area is nice, in one way. Wouldbe
nice if one could handle that in some way, uploading all but not
showing everything in the API tracepoints.


True, but if there are already 50 traces for some of  roads I have  
travelled  I find it unnecessary to upload another one. Of course I  
use my good judgement when I edit my traces :-)


Cheers,
Morten



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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Harris
Highly recommended - independent of expensive mapping software (although
will calibrate and use custom maps) - handles gpx - and more formats than
you could ever want to know about it - try the freeware version but you do
need the (good value for money) shareware one for full functionality.
 
http://www.gpsu.co.uk/index.html
 
Mike Harris
 


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From: Steve Bennett [mailto:stevag...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 29 December 2009 21:26
To: Open Street Map mailing list
Subject: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?


What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
trace.

Thanks,
Steve


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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Dave F.
Mike Harris wrote:
 Highly recommended - independent of expensive mapping software 
 (although will calibrate and use custom maps) - handles gpx - and more 
 formats than you could ever want to know about it - try the freeware 
 version but you do need the (good value for money) shareware one for 
 full functionality.
  
 http://www.gpsu.co.uk/index.html
  
 Mike Harris
This maybe an excellent utility, but it's disappointing that after all 
these years people /still /don't understand the meaning of shareware.







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[OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Steve Bennett
What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
trace.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread David Carmean

Before I learned about OSM, I had already purchased some commercial 
software called ExpertGPS (the Pro version so I could convert the 
traces to SHP).  I could do the GPX-SHP conversion with free tools 
now that I've learned about it.

What I still like about ExpertGPS is the ease of editing GPX tracks, and 
I also use it to download the waypoints directly from my eTrex Vista hcx.
Easy to trim the traces, and more importantly, easy to simplify them down 
to few enough points that I often feel comfortable converting the traces 
directly into OSM ways (via JOSM) rather than tracing over them as GPS tracks.

I'd recommend installing and learning to use JOSM if you're inclined to edit 
things.


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 08:25:44AM +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
 able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
 And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
 trace.
 
 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:

 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
 able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
 And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
 trace.

I use Prune (http://activityworkshop.net/software/prune/) to edit GPX
files, then upload the final GPX files via the OSM website. It's not
fantastic, but it's the best I could find, is under active development
and getting better.

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Dave G
Depends on what your into really

For an Opensource - cross platform option you can't beat GPSBabel

It runs on Window, Mac and Linux

See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gpsbabel

I use it for everything and manage a lot of gpstracks

cheersdave

2009/12/30 David Carmean d...@halibut.com:

 Before I learned about OSM, I had already purchased some commercial
 software called ExpertGPS (the Pro version so I could convert the
 traces to SHP).  I could do the GPX-SHP conversion with free tools
 now that I've learned about it.

 What I still like about ExpertGPS is the ease of editing GPX tracks, and
 I also use it to download the waypoints directly from my eTrex Vista hcx.
 Easy to trim the traces, and more importantly, easy to simplify them down
 to few enough points that I often feel comfortable converting the traces
 directly into OSM ways (via JOSM) rather than tracing over them as GPS tracks.

 I'd recommend installing and learning to use JOSM if you're inclined to edit
 things.


 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 08:25:44AM +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
 able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
 And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
 trace.

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Dave G
Opps sorry .. I meant to post to the list ...

2009/12/30 Dave G 9gerk...@gmail.com:
 Depends on what your into really

 For an Opensource - cross platform option you can't beat GPSBabel

 It runs on Window, Mac and Linux

 See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gpsbabel

 I use it for everything and manage a lot of gpstracks

 cheersdave

 2009/12/30 David Carmean d...@halibut.com:

 Before I learned about OSM, I had already purchased some commercial
 software called ExpertGPS (the Pro version so I could convert the
 traces to SHP).  I could do the GPX-SHP conversion with free tools
 now that I've learned about it.

 What I still like about ExpertGPS is the ease of editing GPX tracks, and
 I also use it to download the waypoints directly from my eTrex Vista hcx.
 Easy to trim the traces, and more importantly, easy to simplify them down
 to few enough points that I often feel comfortable converting the traces
 directly into OSM ways (via JOSM) rather than tracing over them as GPS 
 tracks.

 I'd recommend installing and learning to use JOSM if you're inclined to edit
 things.


 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 08:25:44AM +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
 able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
 And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
 trace.

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Dave G
Roy

thanks for that

wow Prune has really come along since I looked at it last, time for another look

cheers...dave



2009/12/30 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:

 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
 able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
 And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
 trace.

 I use Prune (http://activityworkshop.net/software/prune/) to edit GPX
 files, then upload the final GPX files via the OSM website. It's not
 fantastic, but it's the best I could find, is under active development
 and getting better.

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Aun Johnsen



I wrote my own scripts based on bash, sed, tar and the java class GpxUpload.
Basically I made it because there was something wrong with the output of my
GPX tracks from the GPS (think regional settings was applied on the tags) so
I had to clean the GPX files before they could be uploaded to OSM or loaded
in JOSM. If you are running Linux or Mac, than bash scripting is really not
a big deal. Since GPX is an XML standard file, than most command line text
manipulation tools could be applied.
If you run Windows you might want to install Cygwin in order to allow bash
scripting, though I have no idea how much of the scripting that will work.
If you run Mac than AppleScript can be an alternative, though I havn't even
started to look at that since it also comes with bash.
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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Robert Scott
On Tuesday 29 December 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
 What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
 able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
 And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into one long
 trace.

I use gpsman which, being a tcl/tk app, is slightly odd but actually works 
quite well.


robert.

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:45 AM, David Carmean d...@halibut.com wrote:

 What I still like about ExpertGPS is the ease of editing GPX tracks, and
 I also use it to download the waypoints directly from my eTrex Vista hcx.
 Easy to trim the traces, and more importantly, easy to simplify them down
 to few enough points that I often feel comfortable converting the traces
 directly into OSM ways (via JOSM) rather than tracing over them as GPS
 tracks.

 I'd recommend installing and learning to use JOSM if you're inclined to
 edit
 things.


Hmm, hadn't thought of doing it that way: convert to way, then trim. I do
have JOSM installed, but much prefer the Potlatch interface. JOSM also seems
to be very slow when you have a largeish area loaded.

Anyway, Prune looks like it will do the job.

Aun: Bash scripting is really not my thing. I guess it's personal, but it's
just not the way I like to solve problems. I'll leave it at that to avoid a
flamewar. :)

Steve
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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Dave F.
Dave G wrote:
 Depends on what your into really

 For an Opensource - cross platform option you can't beat GPSBabel

 It runs on Window, Mac and Linux

 See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gpsbabel

 I use it for everything and manage a lot of gpstracks
I admit I haven't looked to deeply into it but in GPSBabel I can split 
the ways on a time basis within the Filters options but unable to do the 
same for waypoints. If you know how to do that could you post please.

To split GPX I use EasyGPS:

http://www.easygps.com/

Does anyone know if anybody's developing a direct download of tracks 
from GPSses into OSM?
This function was recently (I think) added to the free version of Google 
Earth. It makes life a lot simpler.

Cheers
Dave F.




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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Liz
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
  JOSM also seems
 to be very slow when you have a largeish area loaded.
enlarge your Java VM
eg java -Xms1536m -Xmx1536m -jar /usr/share/josm/josm.jar



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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Dave G
Hi Dave F

I found that the later versions of EasyGPS were a bit flake on Linux
(and wine) so I stopped using it

I have written a couple of bash scripts available here which might be
of use to Linux users

available from the wiki:  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gerkin

Aun

I would be keen to look at your GPS bash scripts/and have a hack
around with them
etc. if possible

Are they available??

cheers...dave





2009/12/30 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
  JOSM also seems
 to be very slow when you have a largeish area loaded.
 enlarge your Java VM
 eg java -Xms1536m -Xmx1536m -jar /usr/share/josm/josm.jar



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Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:50:04 +1100, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
  JOSM also seems
 to be very slow when you have a largeish area loaded.
 enlarge your Java VM
 eg java -Xms1536m -Xmx1536m -jar /usr/share/josm/josm.jar

Is it just me or is there a limit to the size of the Java VM you can enter
in Windows XP? I've had on separate occasions had to lower the limit to
something like 1300 because it just wouldn't run.

Regards,
Maarten


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