Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-13 Thread Stanislav Brabec
maning sambale wrote:
 I've been experimenting with mapping coral reefs:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.8634lon=120.0689zoom=13layers=B000FTTT
 
 The tag I used following what I have seen in others:
 subsea=coral_reef
 
 the reef also has a multipolygon relation:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/90430
 
 Is this the proper way? Any ideas?

Maybe there could be some mapping style analogies with:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Approved_features/barriers
or
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcliff



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[OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-09 Thread Andy Deakin
Hi all,

I know this is hardly street data, but is there any undersea data in osm 
at the moment?
e.g.
* Ferry routes for routing between islands
* POI's for locations of wrecks for diving
* Navigation whilst at sea (naval charts)
* Fishing routes, etc.

Is there any PD(ish) elevation data for undersea to be able to mark 
contours?

Kind regards,

Andy


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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-09 Thread D Tucny
2009/3/9 Andy Deakin andy.dea...@pcmend.net

 Hi all,

 I know this is hardly street data, but is there any undersea data in osm
 at the moment?
 e.g.
 * Ferry routes for routing between islands
 * POI's for locations of wrecks for diving
 * Navigation whilst at sea (naval charts)
 * Fishing routes, etc.

 Is there any PD(ish) elevation data for undersea to be able to mark
 contours?


There are some ferry routes in OSM... The rest I'm not sure about, but, I am
doubtful that much, if anything, exists currently...

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-09 Thread maning sambale
For an archipelagic country like the Philippines, sea/marine features
is of importance.  We've mapped a couple of ferry routes.  But not so
much on other marine features.  Are there suggested tags for marine
features?

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:20 PM, D Tucny d...@tucny.com wrote:
 2009/3/9 Andy Deakin andy.dea...@pcmend.net

 Hi all,

 I know this is hardly street data, but is there any undersea data in osm
 at the moment?
 e.g.
 * Ferry routes for routing between islands
 * POI's for locations of wrecks for diving
 * Navigation whilst at sea (naval charts)
 * Fishing routes, etc.

 Is there any PD(ish) elevation data for undersea to be able to mark
 contours?

 There are some ferry routes in OSM... The rest I'm not sure about, but, I am
 doubtful that much, if anything, exists currently...

 d


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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-09 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi,
Yes, ferry routes are posted, poi's for wrecks are posted.
route=ferry
historic=wreck

yes, navaid=* is not yet a feature (is one that im looking for with the
canvec features) ... all we got is man_made=beacon :( for some reason this
topic hasn't been discussed much.

Perhaps openstreetmap can evolve into OpenOceanMap?

Fishing routes, can be shown as routes, similar to ferry routes... however
over a large distance, adding a route relation is preferred. And unless it's
a public 'way' it's not really used.  Hence, why the  'santa's routes'
project last Christmas was to remove these 'flight paths'.

For the CanVec data, we have access to contours which are better than SRTM
contours. It would be beneficial to be able to have these shown, and
available when working in JOSM.  Just like rivers, contour lines dont
change. ... however.. YES they do change.  If a lake has been drained, pits
can be dug, and areas can be mined.

Also, for mapping purposes, having these contours actually in JOSM listed as
a map feature, would be helpful for printing maps.  If it was set to a 100
meter standard, i don't see how it could confuse mapping.??

One point which canvec has available is elevation points. Spots on the land
where the elevation has been physically servayed.   Perhaps having these
available on land in the water would be helpful??

Look forward to discussion, and perhaps the wiki can be further updated with
explanations.

Thanks,
Sam Vekemans
Across Canada Trails

Hi all,


 I know this is hardly street data, but is there any undersea data in osm

at the moment?

e.g.

* Ferry routes for routing between islands

* POI's for locations of wrecks for diving

* Navigation whilst at sea (naval charts)

* Fishing routes, etc.


 Is there any PD(ish) elevation data for undersea to be able to mark

contours?


 Kind regards,


 Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-09 Thread Steve Hill
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Andy Deakin wrote:

 * Navigation whilst at sea (naval charts)

I've added a (very small) number of buoys to OSM over the past couple of 
years.  ISTR someone added a load of public domain data for Irish 
lighthouses too.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-09 Thread Dermot McNally
2009/3/9 Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org:

 I've added a (very small) number of buoys to OSM over the past couple of
 years.  ISTR someone added a load of public domain data for Irish
 lighthouses too.

The Irish import consisted of lighthouses and other navaids such as
buoys. While the data was not declared public-domain, it is freely
distributed by the Commissioner of Irish Lights and its import into
OSM was kindly approved by the owner.

Dermot

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the sea

2009-03-09 Thread Jon Burgess
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 09:14 +, Andy Deakin wrote:
 Is there any PD(ish) elevation data for undersea to be able to mark 
 contours?

There are several data sources, search for 'bathymetric' data and you
should find things like the srtm30plus dataset:

http://topex.ucsd.edu/WWW_html/srtm30_plus.html

Jon



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