Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Gregory wrote:
>Sent: 04 January 2008 4:37 PM
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>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3
>
>
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>On 04/01/2008, Frédéric Bonifas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   I have also proposed another one on the wiki :
>   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Nightclub.png
>   But nightclubs perhaps don't have the same meaning everywhere :)
>
>   Frédéric
>
>   2008/1/4, Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany)
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   > ...
>   >
>   > > /grabs Nikon D80, and puts in a phonecall to the Dominatrixes
>I've seen
>   > > at the Copenhagen CitySwingers Club.
>   > >
>   > > (Alas, there's no icons in the Mapnik or Osmarender stylesheets
>for
>   > > Nightclubs,
>   >
>   > There already is already an icon in our svn ...
>   > http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-
>icons/classic.big/recreation/nightclub.png
>   >
>   > So it's your turn to add it to the configs 
>   >
>   > -
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>What about private night clubs etc. (members only).
>There are a couple of places here that used to be for staff at the water
>works down the road. Now they're members only water boards.
>
>In Durham there are 16 college bars only open to students (some nights only
>open to students at that college).
>I could tag them as amenity=pub access=private (or access=students,
>access=members etc), but I think renderers will ignore the access tag for
>pubs and really such places should not be shown (or a beer covered in a no-
>entry sign if you must).
>
>I do want to tag these up as they are amenities for most of the city's
>population and would be shown if I ever get round to my own
>Durham/University map. Should I just go with something completly diferent
>like 'university:amenity=college_bar' ?
>
I've been tagging these as amenity/building=social_club

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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread Gregory
On 04/01/2008, Frédéric Bonifas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have also proposed another one on the wiki :
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Nightclub.png
> But nightclubs perhaps don't have the same meaning everywhere :)
>
> Frédéric
>
> 2008/1/4, Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >:
> > ...
> >
> > > /grabs Nikon D80, and puts in a phonecall to the Dominatrixes I've
> seen
> > > at the Copenhagen CitySwingers Club.
> > >
> > > (Alas, there's no icons in the Mapnik or Osmarender stylesheets for
> > > Nightclubs,
> >
> > There already is already an icon in our svn ...
> >
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons/classic.big/recreation/nightclub.png
> >
> > So it's your turn to add it to the configs 
> >
> > -
> > Joerg
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What about private night clubs etc. (members only).
There are a couple of places here that used to be for staff at the water
works down the road. Now they're members only water boards.

In Durham there are 16 college bars only open to students (some nights only
open to students at that college).
I could tag them as amenity=pub access=private (or access=students,
access=members etc), but I think renderers will ignore the access tag for
pubs and really such places should not be shown (or a beer covered in a
no-entry sign if you must).

I do want to tag these up as they are amenities for most of the city's
population and would be shown if I ever get round to my own
Durham/University map. Should I just go with something completly diferent
like 'university:amenity=college_bar' ?

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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread J.D. Schmidt
I'll let it come up for a vote - Which icon would look best, when andy 
is included on it. That will be the one used. ;)

Dutch

Frédéric Bonifas skrev:
> I have also proposed another one on the wiki :
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Nightclub.png
> But nightclubs perhaps don't have the same meaning everywhere :)
> 
> Frédéric
> 
> 2008/1/4, Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> ...
>>
>>> /grabs Nikon D80, and puts in a phonecall to the Dominatrixes I've seen
>>> at the Copenhagen CitySwingers Club.
>>>
>>> (Alas, there's no icons in the Mapnik or Osmarender stylesheets for
>>> Nightclubs,
>> There already is already an icon in our svn ...
>> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons/classic.big/recreation/nightclub.png
>>
>> So it's your turn to add it to the configs 
>>
>> -
>> Joerg



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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread Frédéric Bonifas
I have also proposed another one on the wiki :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Nightclub.png
But nightclubs perhaps don't have the same meaning everywhere :)

Frédéric

2008/1/4, Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ...
>
> > /grabs Nikon D80, and puts in a phonecall to the Dominatrixes I've seen
> > at the Copenhagen CitySwingers Club.
> >
> > (Alas, there's no icons in the Mapnik or Osmarender stylesheets for
> > Nightclubs,
>
> There already is already an icon in our svn ...
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons/classic.big/recreation/nightclub.png
>
> So it's your turn to add it to the configs 
>
> -
> Joerg
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany)
...

> /grabs Nikon D80, and puts in a phonecall to the Dominatrixes I've seen
> at the Copenhagen CitySwingers Club.
>
> (Alas, there's no icons in the Mapnik or Osmarender stylesheets for
> Nightclubs, 

There already is already an icon in our svn ...
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons/classic.big/recreation/nightclub.png

So it's your turn to add it to the configs 

-
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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Andy Robinson (blackadder) skrev:
>> Frederik Ramm skrev:
>>> This means that people interested in OSM either have a good sex life
>>> already or, uh, never mind.
>> Of course we do. I have personally mapped all the roads leading to all
>> the Swingersclubs, and all the surefire singles-bar pickup-spots in
>> Copenhagen. Is that proof enough ?? ;)
> 
> Looking forward to seeing openswingersmap.org when it's ready ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Andy

I'm need som help making the graphic logo for openswingersmap.org. You 
volunteering to help creating it ?

/grabs Nikon D80, and puts in a phonecall to the Dominatrixes I've seen 
at the Copenhagen CitySwingers Club.

(Alas, there's no icons in the Mapnik or Osmarender stylesheets for 
Nightclubs, nor for the more randy adult entertaintmentplaces such as 
Swingersclubs, stripjoints, etc.

So the clubs ain't rendered on the OpenStreetMap.org sites. But trust 
me, they are in the DB ;) )

Dutch


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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
J.D. Schmidt
>Sent: 04 January 2008 11:47 AM
>To: Frederik Ramm
>Cc: Talk Openstreetmap
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3
>
>Frederik Ramm skrev:
>> This means that people interested in OSM either have a good sex life
>> already or, uh, never mind.
>
>Of course we do. I have personally mapped all the roads leading to all
>the Swingersclubs, and all the surefire singles-bar pickup-spots in
>Copenhagen. Is that proof enough ?? ;)

Looking forward to seeing openswingersmap.org when it's ready ;-)

Cheers

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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Frederik Ramm skrev:
> It i s going to be a "real" book, German Language, about 300 pages,  
> and aims to have everything the would-be mapper needs to get going,  
> as well as an overview about the technical background of the project  
> (i.e. data model, XML, and stuff). We assume it is going to hit the  
> market some time in February.

Try to get your publisher to sign a deal with a GPSdevice supplier, such 
as Magellan, Garmin, or similar. Such a book just begs to have a GPS 
device bundled with it.

Dutch

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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-04 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Frederik Ramm skrev:
> This means that people interested in OSM either have a good sex life  
> already or, uh, never mind.

Of course we do. I have personally mapped all the roads leading to all 
the Swingersclubs, and all the surefire singles-bar pickup-spots in 
Copenhagen. Is that proof enough ?? ;)

Dutch

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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

> Nice slides, and one of my picture too.

I had to resist the urge of putting in a SteveC portrait with a big  
fat "It's all his fault" arrow ;-)

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote:

> It i s going to be a "real" book, German Language, about 300 pages, and
> aims to have everything the would-be mapper needs to get going, as well
> as an overview about the technical background of the project (i.e. data
> model, XML, and stuff). We assume it is going to hit the market some
> time in February.

Sounds brilliant.



cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

>> Buy our book (out February 2008) Frederik Ramm, Jochen Topf:
>> OpenStreetMap Lehmanns Verlag, Hamburg
>
> So tell us more...?

Well... I finished the chapter on routing yesterday, and an hour  
later heard that Roadmap now has OSM support as well so I'll have to  
include that - and that's pretty much symptomatic of everything we  
did for the book. The Potlatch chapter needs some minor corrections  
as well... ;-) it is quite difficult to portray something as fast- 
moving as OSM but I think we just about got it right. Many  
fundamentals are still the same as when I joined a year ago.

It i s going to be a "real" book, German Language, about 300 pages,  
and aims to have everything the would-be mapper needs to get going,  
as well as an overview about the technical background of the project  
(i.e. data model, XML, and stuff). We assume it is going to hit the  
market some time in February.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Stephen Coast

On 3 Jan 2008, at 12:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>> My slides are in SVN (/misc/lectures/), in OpenOffice and PDF
>> formats, and of course you're welcome to re-use them in any way.
>
> Haven't listened to the transcript, but the slides are great - really
> convey the sense of OSM being useful, cool, and fun.
>
>> Buy our book (out February 2008) Frederik Ramm, Jochen Topf:
>> OpenStreetMap Lehmanns Verlag, Hamburg
>
> So tell us more...?

Maybe with an introduction by Fake SteveC?

Nice slides, and one of my picture too.

>
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> cheers
> Richard
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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:57 PM 1/3/2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>The talk went ok, I got a lot of follow-up questions and believe I
>have recruited a number of soon-to-be addicts. The room was quite
>full even though in the auditorium next door they had the "Sex 2.0"
>talk which was announced as being about achieving a fulfilled sex
>life with the help of online dating platforms.
>
>This means that people interested in OSM either have a good sex life
>already or, uh, never mind.

Or OSM is better than sex. :-)





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Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote:

> My slides are in SVN (/misc/lectures/), in OpenOffice and PDF
> formats, and of course you're welcome to re-use them in any way.

Haven't listened to the transcript, but the slides are great - really  
convey the sense of OSM being useful, cool, and fun.

> Buy our book (out February 2008) Frederik Ramm, Jochen Topf:  
> OpenStreetMap Lehmanns Verlag, Hamburg

So tell us more...?

cheers
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[OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

if anyone's interested, here is my OSM talk from the 24C3  
conference in Berlin:

http://outpost.h3q.com/fnord/24c3-torrents/24c3-2286-en- 
openstreetmap.mkv.torrent

The talk went ok, I got a lot of follow-up questions and believe I  
have recruited a number of soon-to-be addicts. The room was quite  
full even though in the auditorium next door they had the "Sex 2.0"  
talk which was announced as being about achieving a fulfilled sex  
life with the help of online dating platforms.

This means that people interested in OSM either have a good sex life  
already or, uh, never mind.

My slides are in SVN (/misc/lectures/), in OpenOffice and PDF  
formats, and of course you're welcome to re-use them in any way.

Bye
Frederik

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