Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept
On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote: > >> 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. >> Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. >> But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy >> to use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's very clear that nobody can >> convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to >> use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, >> but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his choice, >> and it's totally fine, but if we all feel that way then we have to deal with >> the downside that every single day we lose tens of thousands of edits >> because of that monopoly on bad UI. All I'm suggesting is we sidestep the >> problem and connect people who can report a map bug but can't be bothered to >> deal with pain and suffering of potlatch with the people who can deal with >> it, at least until Richard gets his act together and stops fixing every >> stupid thing > in the old codebase. You have to take a step back here and realise what we're > missing out on. > > Oh for crying out loud Steve, do you have to be such a complete shit all the > time? I honestly wouldn't blame Richard if he deleted all his code and walked > off into the sunset and we never saw him again after that pointless little > diatribe. I do help it made you feel better. And I, Tom, would feel fine leaving too after you pissed all over the design work in OGD comments I got done yesterday because I didn't ask your express permission. I think it's a totally valid criticism to say potlatch 1 feels like windows 3.0, there's potlatch 2 that's been sitting around forever, and it's a million times better, and if it's not going to ever get finished we need to look at other ways to allow people to contribute to the map. Yours &c. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept
On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote: > 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. > Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. > But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy to > use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's very clear that nobody can > convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to > use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, > but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his choice, > and it's totally fine, but if we all feel that way then we have to deal with > the downside that every single day we lose tens of thousands of edits because > of that monopoly on bad UI. All I'm suggesting is we sidestep the problem and > connect people who can report a map bug but can't be bothered to deal with > pain and suffering of potlatch with the people who can deal with it, at least > until Richard gets his act together and stops fixing every stupid thing in the old codebase. You have to take a step back here and realise what we're missing out on. Oh for crying out loud Steve, do you have to be such a complete shit all the time? I honestly wouldn't blame Richard if he deleted all his code and walked off into the sunset and we never saw him again after that pointless little diatribe. I do help it made you feel better. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, SteveC wrote: > I've posted a design concept with description and invitation for feedback > here: > > http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg > > Yours &c. > > Steve > I was saddened to see infighting on the blog comments. I haven't seen nor heard of a front page reinvention committee. I see some things are better with less white space. I'd like to see a better map key as one thing cartographers whine about is the apparent lack of a map key. Today was the first day I ever found it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept
Hi, Great mockup ! I think we absolutely need a "get direction" as an alternative to the search box. This is probably on of the first thing why people are using maps :), to see how to go from anywhere to anywhere else. Why to keep the ratio of the map ? rather than to link dynamicaly the bottom edge of the slippy map to the browser's borders like the left and right ones are. Great job anyway ! On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:48 AM, SteveC wrote: > I've posted a design concept with description and invitation for feedback > here: > > http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg > > Yours &c. > > Steve > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept
I've posted a design concept with description and invitation for feedback here: http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg Yours &c. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk