Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC

On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Tom Hughes wrote:

> On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote:
> 
>> 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. 
>> Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. 
>> But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy 
>> to use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's very clear that nobody can 
>> convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to 
>> use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, 
>> but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his choice, 
>> and it's totally fine, but if we all feel that way then we have to deal with 
>> the downside that every single day we lose tens of thousands of edits 
>> because of that monopoly on bad UI. All I'm suggesting is we sidestep the 
>> problem and connect people who can report a map bug but can't be bothered to 
>> deal with pain and suffering of potlatch with the people who can deal with 
>> it, at least until Richard gets his act together and stops fixing every 
>> stupid thing 
> in the old codebase. You have to take a step back here and realise what we're 
> missing out on.
> 
> Oh for crying out loud Steve, do you have to be such a complete shit all the 
> time? I honestly wouldn't blame Richard if he deleted all his code and walked 
> off into the sunset and we never saw him again after that pointless little 
> diatribe. I do help it made you feel better.

And I, Tom, would feel fine leaving too after you pissed all over the design 
work in OGD comments I got done yesterday because I didn't ask your express 
permission.

I think it's a totally valid criticism to say potlatch 1 feels like windows 
3.0, there's potlatch 2 that's been sitting around forever, and it's a million 
times better, and if it's not going to ever get finished we need to look at 
other ways to allow people to contribute to the map.

Yours &c.

Steve


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote:

> 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. 
> Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. 
> But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy to 
> use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's very clear that nobody can 
> convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to 
> use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, 
> but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his choice, 
> and it's totally fine, but if we all feel that way then we have to deal with 
> the downside that every single day we lose tens of thousands of edits because 
> of that monopoly on bad UI. All I'm suggesting is we sidestep the problem and 
> connect people who can report a map bug but can't be bothered to deal with 
> pain and suffering of potlatch with the people who can deal with it, at least 
> until Richard gets his act together and stops fixing every stupid thing 
in the old codebase. You have to take a step back here and realise what we're 
missing out on.

Oh for crying out loud Steve, do you have to be such a complete shit all 
the time? I honestly wouldn't blame Richard if he deleted all his code 
and walked off into the sunset and we never saw him again after that 
pointless little diatribe. I do help it made you feel better.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Liz
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, SteveC wrote:
> I've posted a design concept with description and invitation for feedback
>  here:
> 
> http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg
> 
> Yours &c.
> 
> Steve
> 
I was saddened to see infighting on the blog comments.
I haven't seen nor heard of a front page reinvention committee.
I see some things are better with less white space. I'd like to see a better 
map key as one thing cartographers whine about is the apparent lack of a map 
key. Today was the first day I ever found it.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-20 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi,

Great mockup ! I think we absolutely need a "get direction" as an
alternative to the search box. This is probably on of the first thing why
people are using maps :), to see how to go from anywhere to anywhere else.

Why to keep the ratio of the map ? rather than to link dynamicaly the bottom
edge of the slippy map to the browser's borders like the left and right ones
are.

Great job anyway !



On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:48 AM, SteveC  wrote:

> I've posted a design concept with description and invitation for feedback
> here:
>
> http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg
>
> Yours &c.
>
> Steve
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[OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-20 Thread SteveC
I've posted a design concept with description and invitation for feedback here:

http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg

Yours &c.

Steve

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