Re: [OSM-talk] OpenDroneMap and Portable OSM (POSM)

[Dan Joseph]

Hi Oleksiy,
Thanks for all the links and materials. Lots of good points. Looking
forward to reading through it.
All the best,
Dan

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev <
oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch> wrote:

> On 02/09/16 22:06, Dan Joseph wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> The American Red Cross GIS Team is constantly looking for new ways to
> improve our workflows and learn from the OpenStreetMap and FOSS4G
> communities. The vast majority of the GIS analysis and map making we do is
> done using FOSS4G tools and we strive to be effective contributors as well
> as consumers.
>
> We've supported the development of Portable OSM (POSM  AmericanRedCross/posm> as an affordable (can be run on hardware costing
> less than $300) solution to make OpenStreetMap, OpenMapKit, and Field
> Papers available for deployments in connectivity-limited environments. POSM
> consolidates cloud-based tools into a portable server that acts as a
> temporary local data hub for digital mapping, surveying, and field media
> collection.
>
> The next stage of development is working with the folks at Stamen to
> incorporate OpenDroneMap (for processing UAV imagery) into the stack of
> software available for installation on a POSM. We'd love to hear your
> thoughts, concerns, use-cases, and other comments. Send us an email or
> leave an issue on the POSM GitHub repository  americanredcross/posm/issues>.
>
> - Dan Joseph
>
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I use RPAS (remotely piloted aircraft systems) quite a lot for aerial
> photography and videography, both multirotor and fixed-wing. I fly in
> geographical regions for which there are orthorectified images, so I make
> mostly oblique aerial photographs and aerial videos. In Google Map there is
> a feature that one can see how many times his uploaded images were viewed.
> So I uploaded some of them to Google Maps to see if people are interested
> to view such oblique aerial images in relation to a map location. The
> result is six hundred aerial images were viewed more than seven million
> times already [1]. So it seems there is an interest.
>
> I also add aerial images and aerial videos to Wikipedia and then add
> wikipedia tag to the OSM map [2].
>
> The main issue with using a multirotor (quadcopter) for aerial photography
> is that its range is only 2 - 3 kilometers. It takes several hours to drive
> to an object and then it takes just twenty minutes to film it from the air.
> There is already technology with the long range of 40 and more kilometers,
> for example Dragonlink V3 [3]. For such a long range it would be already
> not a quad but a fixed-wing aircraft, and electric glider.
>
> Instead of long driving by car an electric glider could fly directly to an
> object and make aerial images and video. Glider has got only one motor and
> on a quiet day it does not even need it all the time, just to climb, and
> then it can glide for a while without a motor.
>
> But to pilot a long range RPAS one would need a special Permit for the
> operation of drones without direct eye contact [4]. And to obtain such a
> permit there should be an internal formal training and internal
> certification. A pilot of long range RPAS must know meteorology, weather
> patterns, know how to make defensive maneuvers in case of a large bird
> attack (not to hurt a protected bird and not to crash a RPAS), how to react
> to low flying manned aircraft, and many other things.
>
> Dragonlink V3 costs 336 USD, an electric glider with the wing span of two
> or more meters capable to carry a GoPro (or better) camera costs from 179.-
> USD [5]. So it is affordable and doable. With the range of 40+ km the
> aerial photography becomes scalable, and it has got a potential to change
> mapping. However, having a background in civil aviation [6], I am aware
> that for successful safe operations the formal training and certification
> are essential. Civil aviation authorities of a country should see that this
> is a serious organization, with a serious approach, otherwise no one will
> let us into an airspace.
>
> There is a special equipment for training readily available. For example,
> popular Spektrum and Futaba radio controllers have got wireless
> instructor-student link, so a student can pilot an RPAS without any risk,
> as an instructor can take control any moment.
>
> [1] https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/101802068168905320382/
> photos/@46.4410425,16.1201149,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
>
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyon_Castle (same video on youtube
> https://youtu.be/GsSVZfiJFnA )
>  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nyon-Castle-aerial-1.jpg
>
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi_fortress (same
> video on youtube https://youtu.be/C-kQjmzlY7A )
>  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Akkerman-fortress-
> aerial-1.jpg
>  etc.
>
> [3] http://dragonlinkrc.com/
>
> [4] https://www.bazl.admin.ch/bazl/en/home/good-to-know%20/
> 

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenDroneMap and Portable OSM (POSM)

[Dan Joseph]

Hi Rob,

Yes, that's the general plan. A more detailed overview of our initial
development goals are as follows:

1.Integrating OpenDroneMap with POSM:
○Installing and configuring ODM components within the POSM base system
○Determining approximate limitations on the number of source photos
that can be handled by standard POSM hardware
2.Uploading images:
○Raw image upload (unprocessed images sourced from a sUAS) using a web
form and/or fileshare
○Copying / uploading post-processed GeoTIFFs to POSM using a web form
and/or fileshare
3.GeoTIFF processing (externally sourced scenes and/or output from ODM):
○Chunking input images into Web Mercator tiles at the TMS zoom level
most closely corresponding to its native resolution
○Pyramiding (downsampling and merging) of generated tiles to produce
tiles for all appropriate zooms
4.Simple web interface for managing processing pipelines:
○Display progress in a web view while processing proceeds
○Permit cancellation, restart of ODM and tile processing
5.Consumption of tiled imagery for digitization through iD, etc:
○Output an MBTiles archive suitable for downloading, excerpting,
sharing with other tools, and serving up as an online TMS

People from both Red Cross and Stamen will be at SOTM.

All the best,
Dan


On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Is the aim that you can send a drone up to collect images and have them
> automatically processed, stitched together and added to POSM (for later
> upload online)? I can see that being useful for communities the world over.
> We (my local team) have talked about testing drones but we aren't a
> particularly technical group so would struggle with the image processing.
> If POSM did it all for us then that would be amazing!
>
> Looking forward to hearing more about POSM at State of the Map Brussels.
>
> *Rob*
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenDroneMap and Portable OSM (POSM)

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

On 02/09/16 22:06, Dan Joseph wrote:

Hi All,

The American Red Cross GIS Team is constantly looking for new ways to 
improve our workflows and learn from the OpenStreetMap and FOSS4G 
communities. The vast majority of the GIS analysis and map making we 
do is done using FOSS4G tools and we strive to be effective 
contributors as well as consumers.


We've supported the development of Portable OSM (POSM 
 as an affordable (can be 
run on hardware costing less than $300) solution to make 
OpenStreetMap, OpenMapKit, and Field Papers available for deployments 
in connectivity-limited environments. POSM consolidates cloud-based 
tools into a portable server that acts as a temporary local data hub 
for digital mapping, surveying, and field media collection.


The next stage of development is working with the folks at Stamen to 
incorporate OpenDroneMap (for processing UAV imagery) into the stack 
of software available for installation on a POSM. We'd love to hear 
your thoughts, concerns, use-cases, and other comments. Send us an 
email or leave an issue on the POSM GitHub repository 
.


- Dan Joseph



Hi Dan,

I use RPAS (remotely piloted aircraft systems) quite a lot for aerial 
photography and videography, both multirotor and fixed-wing. I fly in 
geographical regions for which there are orthorectified images, so I 
make mostly oblique aerial photographs and aerial videos. In Google Map 
there is a feature that one can see how many times his uploaded images 
were viewed. So I uploaded some of them to Google Maps to see if people 
are interested to view such oblique aerial images in relation to a map 
location. The result is six hundred aerial images were viewed more than 
seven million times already [1]. So it seems there is an interest.


I also add aerial images and aerial videos to Wikipedia and then add 
wikipedia tag to the OSM map [2].


The main issue with using a multirotor (quadcopter) for aerial 
photography is that its range is only 2 - 3 kilometers. It takes several 
hours to drive to an object and then it takes just twenty minutes to 
film it from the air. There is already technology with the long range of 
40 and more kilometers, for example Dragonlink V3 [3]. For such a long 
range it would be already not a quad but a fixed-wing aircraft, and 
electric glider.


Instead of long driving by car an electric glider could fly directly to 
an object and make aerial images and video. Glider has got only one 
motor and on a quiet day it does not even need it all the time, just to 
climb, and then it can glide for a while without a motor.


But to pilot a long range RPAS one would need a special Permit for the 
operation of drones without direct eye contact [4]. And to obtain such a 
permit there should be an internal formal training and internal 
certification. A pilot of long range RPAS must know meteorology, weather 
patterns, know how to make defensive maneuvers in case of a large bird 
attack (not to hurt a protected bird and not to crash a RPAS), how to 
react to low flying manned aircraft, and many other things.


Dragonlink V3 costs 336 USD, an electric glider with the wing span of 
two or more meters capable to carry a GoPro (or better) camera costs 
from 179.- USD [5]. So it is affordable and doable. With the range of 
40+ km the aerial photography becomes scalable, and it has got a 
potential to change mapping. However, having a background in civil 
aviation [6], I am aware that for successful safe operations the formal 
training and certification are essential. Civil aviation authorities of 
a country should see that this is a serious organization, with a serious 
approach, otherwise no one will let us into an airspace.


There is a special equipment for training readily available. For 
example, popular Spektrum and Futaba radio controllers have got wireless 
instructor-student link, so a student can pilot an RPAS without any 
risk, as an instructor can take control any moment.


[1] 
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/101802068168905320382/photos/@46.4410425,16.1201149,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1


[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyon_Castle (same video on youtube 
https://youtu.be/GsSVZfiJFnA )

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nyon-Castle-aerial-1.jpg

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi_fortress (same 
video on youtube https://youtu.be/C-kQjmzlY7A )

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Akkerman-fortress-aerial-1.jpg
 etc.

[3] http://dragonlinkrc.com/

[4] 
https://www.bazl.admin.ch/bazl/en/home/good-to-know%20/drones-and-aircraft-models/permits-for-the-operation-of-drones-without-direct-eye-contact-o.html


[5] http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL4750#home

[6] https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwIBJzM0u50qOXZ5bnFEZi1hTGM

Best regards,

Oleksiy ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_(given_name) )

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenDroneMap and Portable OSM (POSM)

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi Dan,

Is the aim that you can send a drone up to collect images and have them
automatically processed, stitched together and added to POSM (for later
upload online)? I can see that being useful for communities the world over.
We (my local team) have talked about testing drones but we aren't a
particularly technical group so would struggle with the image processing.
If POSM did it all for us then that would be amazing!

Looking forward to hearing more about POSM at State of the Map Brussels.

*Rob*
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[OSM-talk] OpenDroneMap and Portable OSM (POSM)

[Dan Joseph]

Hi All,

The American Red Cross GIS Team is constantly looking for new ways to
improve our workflows and learn from the OpenStreetMap and FOSS4G
communities. The vast majority of the GIS analysis and map making we do is
done using FOSS4G tools and we strive to be effective contributors as well
as consumers.

We've supported the development of Portable OSM (POSM <
https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/posm> as an affordable (can be run on
hardware costing less than $300) solution to make OpenStreetMap,
OpenMapKit, and Field Papers available for deployments in
connectivity-limited environments. POSM consolidates cloud-based tools into
a portable server that acts as a temporary local data hub for digital
mapping, surveying, and field media collection.

The next stage of development is working with the folks at Stamen to
incorporate OpenDroneMap (for processing UAV imagery) into the stack of
software available for installation on a POSM. We'd love to hear your
thoughts, concerns, use-cases, and other comments. Send us an email or
leave an issue on the POSM GitHub repository <
https://github.com/americanredcross/posm/issues>.

- Dan Joseph
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