Re: [OSM-talk] opensnowmap.org down?

[Yves]

It's back online. 
Yves 

Le 5 décembre 2017 16:57:33 GMT+01:00, Wolfram Schneider  a 
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>Hi,
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>it seems that http://www.opensnowmap.org is down. Does anybody knows
>whats happens to the site?
>
>-Wolfram
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Re: [OSM-talk] opensnowmap.org down?

[Yves]

Apparently yes, thanks for the info. 
I'll have a look in a couple of hours and keep you inform. 
Yves 

Le 5 décembre 2017 16:57:33 GMT+01:00, Wolfram Schneider  a 
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>
>it seems that http://www.opensnowmap.org is down. Does anybody knows
>whats happens to the site?
>
>-Wolfram
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[OSM-talk] opensnowmap.org down?

[Wolfram Schneider]

Hi,

it seems that http://www.opensnowmap.org is down. Does anybody knows
whats happens to the site?

-Wolfram

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[Steve Bennett]

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote:
 - could it be more obvious which is the start of each (downhill) run?

 Unless there a tag on the node, it would be hard. Emphasizing each way start
 node wouldn't be nice, as pistes can be made from several ways.

Well, you can already compute gradient profiles, so maybe you could
use that. And isn't there a convention that downhill routes are mapped
in the downhill direction?

 - would be great to have a summer/winter mode button (in summer mode,
 show the mountain bike trails, hiking routes etc)

 Then it's not opensnowmap anymore :)

Yeah, it's even more useful. Seriously though, most ski resorts
(around here at least) have a green and white mode. Many of the
functions of your site would also be useful for other activities at
the resort.

 What I try to achieve is controls with left clic only.

Ok, but why? All the other sites use left click to place markers, and
right click context menu to delete them. Don't reinvent GUIs if you
don't have to :)

 I take it that more
 guidance would be appreciated.

Nah, just more familiar experience. Trying to teach users how to use
your novel interface is the wrong approach, IMHO - just stick with
what they already know.

Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[Janko Mihelić]

Great service! Thanks for making it.

I have one remark. When you have a route, I don't know what is the start
and what is the end. It needs one of those checkered patterns to identify
the end, or Googles A-B-C, or OSRMs Green-Yellow-Red.


Janko


2013/4/6 yvecai yve...@gmail.com

 On 04/06/2013 10:57 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:

 - I find the whole interactive mode clunky and not intuitive.

 Ok, I've change added some shadows to the (i) button and a better visual
 explaination, hope this helps to make things clearer.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[yvecai]

Thanks for the feedback.

There is a lot of room for improvement in the routing system. and I will 
certainly replace the underlying pyroute for something else before next 
winter. Consider your request in my list.

Yves

On 04/08/2013 10:19 AM, Janko Mihelic' wrote:

Great service! Thanks for making it.

I have one remark. When you have a route, I don't know what is the 
start and what is the end. It needs one of those checkered patterns to 
identify the end, or Googles A-B-C, or OSRMs Green-Yellow-Red.



Janko


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On 04/06/2013 10:57 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:

- I find the whole interactive mode clunky and not intuitive.

Ok, I've change added some shadows to the (i) button and a better
visual explaination, hope this helps to make things clearer.

Yves


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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[yvecai]

Lifts icons are now renderd upside-up.
There is  still some work to do to get them going in the way direction, 
though.


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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[Steve Bennett]

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:56 AM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pistes informations with a single clic:No more 'vector mode'. Lighter,
 better compatibility with browsers.

 Search for pistes by names:Nominatim results are augmented with a selection
 of ski pistes and lifts.

 Multi-modal routing and elevation profiles:You can climb dowhnills, take a
 lift downward and a shortcut in snowshoes. Yes !

 Forum:Yet another channel. It's more dedicated to newcomers, and aim to
 ensure the site viabilty in the long-term.

Excellent! Some feedback:
- the terrain shading is distracting and not useful at higher zoom
levels (16+, maybe 15+)
- why not show the names of the runs? (rather than having to click on them)
- the interactive mode button is not intuitive at all. I had no idea
it was a button until I happened to click Settings. Why not leave
interactive mode on all the time?
- in the mountains I looked at, the chairlift icons are often upside down...
- could it be more obvious which is the start of each (downhill) run?
- would be great to have a summer/winter mode button (in summer mode,
show the mountain bike trails, hiking routes etc)
- at low zooms (10), it's hard to find the ski resorts - they could
be much more prominent
- suggest changing mapkey to legend (or just key. Or at least
put a space in it :))
- what is the profile button meant to do? It just gives this one tip
about clicking the interactive button...
- I find the whole interactive mode clunky and not intuitive. Why
not follow the established conventions of direction finding, using a
similar interface to Google Maps, Bing Maps, or hell, OSRM? It's
pretty confusing: it took me a while to work out that it's even doing
routing. All I wanted to do was click on a run to find out more about
it.
- the mapkey doesn't explain what the little warning signs ( /!\ )
are for. Steepness?
- I also see two different coloured XC trails, but I can't see
anything in the legend that explains why?
- I love the elevation profile - would be great to be able to click on
a single run/track and see the profile for it.
- the wiki page that is linked to to explain the colour coding of ski
runs doesn't actually explain them:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:route%3Dpiste
(Suggest you just include text descriptions, like easy, difficult
etc)
- would be great to use bezier smoothing on the ski runs if at all
possible - they look very sharp and jagged.

Anyway, overall it looks great! Don't be put off my feedback :)

Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[yvecai]

Many thanks for the feedback !

On 04/06/2013 10:57 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:

Excellent! Some feedback:
- the terrain shading is distracting and not useful at higher zoom
levels (16+, maybe 15+)

Really ? It helps to see the slope direction, at least.

- why not show the names of the runs? (rather than having to click on them)

- todo list updated

- the interactive mode button is not intuitive at all. I had no idea
it was a button until I happened to click Settings. Why not leave
interactive mode on all the time?

I'm afraid it would be more clunky, then :)

- in the mountains I looked at, the chairlift icons are often upside down...
Already in the todo list. But I find it somewhat funny, especially the 
drag-lift icon :)

- could it be more obvious which is the start of each (downhill) run?
Unless there a tag on the node, it would be hard. Emphasizing each way 
start node wouldn't be nice, as pistes can be made from several ways.

- would be great to have a summer/winter mode button (in summer mode,
show the mountain bike trails, hiking routes etc)

Then it's not opensnowmap anymore :)

- at low zooms (10), it's hard to find the ski resorts - they could
be much more prominent
You're right. Maybe the yellow/blue cluster should be extended a zoom 
further, and site=piste relations only be an icon with no name at z9.

- suggest changing mapkey to legend (or just key. Or at least
put a space in it :))

- todo list updated

- what is the profile button meant to do? It just gives this one tip
about clicking the interactive button...

I think this could disappear

- I find the whole interactive mode clunky and not intuitive. Why
not follow the established conventions of direction finding, using a
similar interface to Google Maps, Bing Maps, or hell, OSRM? It's
pretty confusing: it took me a while to work out that it's even doing
routing. All I wanted to do was click on a run to find out more about
it.
What I try to achieve is controls with left clic only. I take it that 
more guidance would be appreciated.
Thing is, translations are scarce, so if I want to add a small help 
text, I'm afraid that won't be that useful before a while. I'll try to 
works on icon meaning first and see what I end up with.

- the mapkey doesn't explain what the little warning signs ( /!\ )
are for. Steepness?

piste:difficulty  easy for crosscountry

- I also see two different coloured XC trails, but I can't see
anything in the legend that explains why?

It's just the trail marking color (tag colour on the relation)

- I love the elevation profile - would be great to be able to click on
a single run/track and see the profile for it.
Should the 'interactive mode' be less clunky, I hope it's not necessary. 
Normally you should be less than a few clic away of achieving this in 
defining a route.

- the wiki page that is linked to to explain the colour coding of ski
runs doesn't actually explain them:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:route%3Dpiste
(Suggest you just include text descriptions, like easy, difficult
etc)
There is no color coding here, it's the marking color of the piste 
tagged as a relation. Good luck if you find any meaning here 
:http://www.opensnowmap.org/?zoom=17lat=47.47907lon=15.7533layers=e=falsem=raster
There is 'color coding' of difficulties in the render for downhill 
pistes only, it's the  /!\ for crosscountry. Pistes tagged as a way are 
concerned.

- would be great to use bezier smoothing on the ski runs if at all
possible - they look very sharp and jagged.

- todo list updated


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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[yvecai]

On 04/06/2013 10:57 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:

- I find the whole interactive mode clunky and not intuitive.
Ok, I've change added some shadows to the (i) button and a better visual 
explaination, hope this helps to make things clearer.


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[OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[yvecai]

Hi all,
I'm proud to announce a new website, for all winter sports 
:http://www.opensnowmap.org
It's a bit more than an update of www.pistes-nordiques.org.

Tile server :From fresh data, every morning

Pistes informations with a single clic:No more 'vector mode'. Lighter, better 
compatibility with browsers.

Search for pistes by names:Nominatim results are augmented with a selection of 
ski pistes and lifts.

Multi-modal routing and elevation profiles:You can climb dowhnills, take a lift 
downward and a shortcut in snowshoes. Yes !

Forum:Yet another channel. It's more dedicated to newcomers, and aim to ensure 
the site viabilty in the long-term.

Yves


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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

[Clifford Snow]

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm proud to announce a new website, for all winter sports :
 http://www.opensnowmap.org
 It's a bit more than an update of www.pistes-nordiques.org.

 Tile server :From fresh data, every morning

 Pistes informations with a single clic:No more 'vector mode'. Lighter,
 better compatibility with browsers.

 Search for pistes by names:Nominatim results are augmented with a
 selection of ski pistes and lifts.

 Multi-modal routing and elevation profiles:You can climb dowhnills, take a
 lift downward and a shortcut in snowshoes. Yes !

 Forum:Yet another channel. It's more dedicated to newcomers, and aim to
 ensure the site viabilty in the long-term.

 Yves


Posted it on reddit.com


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