[OSM-talk] Question about Osmosis, Geofabrik and HTTP 504 Error

2014-05-21 Thread Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio


Dear list,

I am getting the HTTP 504 error message *sometimes* when trying to get a 
state.txt file from Geofabrik with osmosis, but it happens sometimes and with 
some files. For example, the state.txt file for the Berlin updates fails to 
download and the state.txt file for the Bretagne updates works ok, and after a 
few minutes, the opposite situation happens.

Could this be because the server is denying files by using some kind of 
file-oriented policy?

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Question about Osmosis, Geofabrik and HTTP 504 Error

2014-05-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 05/21/2014 04:36 PM, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio wrote:
 I am getting the HTTP 504 error message *sometimes* when trying to get a
 state.txt file from Geofabrik with osmosis, but it happens sometimes and
 with some files. For example, the state.txt file for the Berlin updates
 fails to download and the state.txt file for the Bretagne updates works
 ok, and after a few minutes, the opposite situation happens.
 
 Could this be because the server is denying files by using some kind of
 file-oriented policy?

The Geofabrik download server applies rate limiting. If you try to
download too many files in a short time - for example, if you were to
run Osmosis in a loop where you'd check for a new state.txt every minute
even though they only are renewed once a day - then the server will
block access for your IP and issue 503 Service Unavailable errors (but
not 504). Because of the throttling nature of this block, you might land
in a situation where you can request one file every five minutes
successfully, but then you get 503 again.

Don't request so many files, and the problem will go away. If you check
for 10 state.txt files every hour you won't have a problem but if you do
that every five minutes then you might.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question about Osmosis, Geofabrik and HTTP 504 Error

2014-05-21 Thread Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio
Hello,
Thanks for the explanation.
I have set up the cron so that it gets the *.osc.gz files from Geofabrik every 
night. I thought it would be a good idea to run osmosis three times, so in case 
the first does not work, the second perhaps will, and if one of them works, 
then the rest will do nothing because I am checking the lag every time.

After your reply, I think I will try it only once every night, and if one night 
it does not work, it's not so important because the following night it will 
probably work.


Any comments?

Regards,
Juan

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:46 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
 


Hi,


On 05/21/2014 04:36 PM, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio wrote:
 I am getting the HTTP 504 error message *sometimes* when trying to get a
 state.txt file from Geofabrik with osmosis, but it happens sometimes and
 with some files. For example, the state.txt file for the Berlin updates
 fails to download and the state.txt file for the Bretagne updates works
 ok, and after a few minutes, the opposite situation happens.
 
 Could this be because the server is denying files by using some kind of
 file-oriented policy?

The Geofabrik download server applies rate limiting. If you try to
download too many files in a short time - for example, if you were to
run Osmosis in a loop where you'd check for a new state.txt every minute
even though they only are renewed once a day - then the server will
block access for your IP and issue 503 Service Unavailable errors (but
not 504). Because of the throttling nature of this block, you might land
in a situation where you can request one file every five minutes
successfully, but then you get 503 again.

Don't request so many files, and the problem will go away. If you check
for 10 state.txt files every hour you won't have a problem but if you do
that every five minutes then you might.

Bye
Frederik

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