Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-29 Thread Jo
It's probably because I somehow stumbled through the first 5 steps while
discovering the possibilities of the app that I don't remember how
complicated it was. Now I simply use step 6 to toggle between the views I
use most often (additional GPX with the part of the walking network I
already 'discovered'/Bing/Mapnik). I should figure out how I could add the
hiking symbols from Lonvia someday...

Still I think with all the other requirements you have, OsmAND is your best
bet.

Jo

2012/11/29 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com

 Hi Jo,
   Yeah, OsmAnd does everything - but it's pretty complicated. Switching
 between offline and online maps (a pretty basic task) is really hard (and
 very hard to remember). To go to online maps you seem to have to:
 1) Menu | Settings | Offline data (Download)
 2) Expand Offline maps (vector)
 3) Hold down on each offline map until 'deactivate' appears, which you
 choose.
 4) Back out to Settings, select Online maps
 5) Select Online and tile maps

 To then choose which one actually shows:
 6) Menu | Define view | Map source...
 7) Pick one

 Hmm...written out it doesn't sound that bad, but it took quite a lot of
 fumbling around to get that far. (I guess the problem is the OsmAnd authors
 think of vector and tile maps as completely different functions,
 implemented completely differently, but for the user, they're just two
 variations on a theme.)

 Steve



 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe
 write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users
 need.

 I didn't do it then, hoping somebody else would have a better suggestion.

 Polyglot

 2012/11/24 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com

  Hi all,
   I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for
 people visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is:

 Must have:
 1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like
 OSMand, Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we
 don't need.
 2) Should by default use bicycle rendering (OpenCycleMap or other), or
 be very easy to change to that.
 3) We'll need a recommendation for both iPhone and Android.

 Nice to have:
 4) Easy-to-use offline tile downloading/use would be a bonus.
 (Personally I find it pretty complex switching between offline vector
 rendering and online tiles in the apps I mentioned before).
 5) Features like food/drink near here would be a bonus.
 6) Ability to also choose Google Maps would be a bonus.
 7) Ability to route along bike paths (ie, rail trails) would be nice.

 Once we've chosen an app, we're going to have to give instructions like
 download the app, push this button to change to cycle mode, push this
 button to download tiles etc, so the simpler the better.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 * we = Rail Trails Australia

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Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-28 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi Jo,
  Yeah, OsmAnd does everything - but it's pretty complicated. Switching
between offline and online maps (a pretty basic task) is really hard (and
very hard to remember). To go to online maps you seem to have to:
1) Menu | Settings | Offline data (Download)
2) Expand Offline maps (vector)
3) Hold down on each offline map until 'deactivate' appears, which you
choose.
4) Back out to Settings, select Online maps
5) Select Online and tile maps

To then choose which one actually shows:
6) Menu | Define view | Map source...
7) Pick one

Hmm...written out it doesn't sound that bad, but it took quite a lot of
fumbling around to get that far. (I guess the problem is the OsmAnd authors
think of vector and tile maps as completely different functions,
implemented completely differently, but for the user, they're just two
variations on a theme.)

Steve


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe
 write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users
 need.

 I didn't do it then, hoping somebody else would have a better suggestion.

 Polyglot

 2012/11/24 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
   I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for
 people visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is:

 Must have:
 1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like
 OSMand, Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we
 don't need.
 2) Should by default use bicycle rendering (OpenCycleMap or other), or be
 very easy to change to that.
 3) We'll need a recommendation for both iPhone and Android.

 Nice to have:
 4) Easy-to-use offline tile downloading/use would be a bonus. (Personally
 I find it pretty complex switching between offline vector rendering and
 online tiles in the apps I mentioned before).
 5) Features like food/drink near here would be a bonus.
 6) Ability to also choose Google Maps would be a bonus.
 7) Ability to route along bike paths (ie, rail trails) would be nice.

 Once we've chosen an app, we're going to have to give instructions like
 download the app, push this button to change to cycle mode, push this
 button to download tiles etc, so the simpler the better.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 * we = Rail Trails Australia

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Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-27 Thread Gregory
I've never found an app I can recommend, because I don't use my phone
enough.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IPhone have long lists.

On 24 November 2012 05:51, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
   I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for
 people visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is:

 Must have:
 1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like
 OSMand, Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we
 don't need.
 2) Should by default use bicycle rendering (OpenCycleMap or other), or be
 very easy to change to that.
 3) We'll need a recommendation for both iPhone and Android.

 Nice to have:
 4) Easy-to-use offline tile downloading/use would be a bonus. (Personally
 I find it pretty complex switching between offline vector rendering and
 online tiles in the apps I mentioned before).
 5) Features like food/drink near here would be a bonus.
 6) Ability to also choose Google Maps would be a bonus.
 7) Ability to route along bike paths (ie, rail trails) would be nice.

 Once we've chosen an app, we're going to have to give instructions like
 download the app, push this button to change to cycle mode, push this
 button to download tiles etc, so the simpler the better.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 * we = Rail Trails Australia

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Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-27 Thread Jo
I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe
write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users
need.

I didn't do it then, hoping somebody else would have a better suggestion.

Polyglot

2012/11/24 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
   I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for
 people visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is:

 Must have:
 1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like
 OSMand, Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we
 don't need.
 2) Should by default use bicycle rendering (OpenCycleMap or other), or be
 very easy to change to that.
 3) We'll need a recommendation for both iPhone and Android.

 Nice to have:
 4) Easy-to-use offline tile downloading/use would be a bonus. (Personally
 I find it pretty complex switching between offline vector rendering and
 online tiles in the apps I mentioned before).
 5) Features like food/drink near here would be a bonus.
 6) Ability to also choose Google Maps would be a bonus.
 7) Ability to route along bike paths (ie, rail trails) would be nice.

 Once we've chosen an app, we're going to have to give instructions like
 download the app, push this button to change to cycle mode, push this
 button to download tiles etc, so the simpler the better.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 * we = Rail Trails Australia

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Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-27 Thread john whelan
That would be my approach as well.

Cheerio John

On 27 November 2012 12:56, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe
 write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users
 need.

 I didn't do it then, hoping somebody else would have a better suggestion.

 Polyglot

 2012/11/24 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
   I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for
 people visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is:

 Must have:
 1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like
 OSMand, Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we
 don't need.
 2) Should by default use bicycle rendering (OpenCycleMap or other), or be
 very easy to change to that.
 3) We'll need a recommendation for both iPhone and Android.

 Nice to have:
 4) Easy-to-use offline tile downloading/use would be a bonus. (Personally
 I find it pretty complex switching between offline vector rendering and
 online tiles in the apps I mentioned before).
 5) Features like food/drink near here would be a bonus.
 6) Ability to also choose Google Maps would be a bonus.
 7) Ability to route along bike paths (ie, rail trails) would be nice.

 Once we've chosen an app, we're going to have to give instructions like
 download the app, push this button to change to cycle mode, push this
 button to download tiles etc, so the simpler the better.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 * we = Rail Trails Australia

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[OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-23 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all,
  I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for people
visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is:

Must have:
1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like OSMand,
Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we don't
need.
2) Should by default use bicycle rendering (OpenCycleMap or other), or be
very easy to change to that.
3) We'll need a recommendation for both iPhone and Android.

Nice to have:
4) Easy-to-use offline tile downloading/use would be a bonus. (Personally I
find it pretty complex switching between offline vector rendering and
online tiles in the apps I mentioned before).
5) Features like food/drink near here would be a bonus.
6) Ability to also choose Google Maps would be a bonus.
7) Ability to route along bike paths (ie, rail trails) would be nice.

Once we've chosen an app, we're going to have to give instructions like
download the app, push this button to change to cycle mode, push this
button to download tiles etc, so the simpler the better.

Thanks,
Steve

* we = Rail Trails Australia
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