[OSM-talk] Spam spam spam spam

2008-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Our lovely little mapping hobby is now so uber-successful that the  
spammers have noticed it. A few more keep creeping through the net.

What should a spam-spotter do on noticing some spam?

I've pasted a few I've spotted here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Spam

but am unsure what to do about it. In particular, on the wiki, is it  
simply a matter of deleting all content from the page, or does that  
leave it in the history for spiders to pick up?

cheers
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Spam spam spam spam

2008-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Hughes wrote:

 A wiki admin can delete it properly, and block the account.

Hokay. I guess what I'm trying to ask is whether there's a procedure  
(e.g. flagging spam on a wiki page, or category, which several people  
can follow) which might reduce the inevitably OSM tendency for the  
way to get something fixed is to mail TomH. I'm trying to be  
considerate. ;)

cheers
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Spam spam spam spam

2008-11-02 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Sunday 02 November 2008, 23:06:05, Richard Fairhurst did write:
 Tom Hughes wrote:
 
  A wiki admin can delete it properly, and block the account.
 

I guess that would involve nasty backdoor business in the database. Probably 
best to start working within the Mediawiki app, I reckon.

I remember when Wikipedia announced that they were adding rel=nofollow 
attributes to all external links to deter spammers. That's because 
$POPULAR_SEARCH_ENGINE honours it. Not sure if it had the desired effect. 
Relies on spammers knowing this and caring/bothering (in our case).

 Hokay. I guess what I'm trying to ask is whether there's a procedure  
 (e.g. flagging spam on a wiki page, or category, which several people  
 can follow) which might reduce the inevitably OSM tendency for the  
 way to get something fixed is to mail TomH. I'm trying to be  
 considerate. ;)
 

Wikibots, possibly assisted by user-contributed flags. Check out which bots 
Wikipedia use. I think they are open sourced and even have articles! (Sorry, 
it's too late to research this better.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_policy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Status

Perhaps you could name the first bot in Tom's honour? ;~)

Good luck.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Spam spam spam spam

2008-11-02 Thread Tom Hughes
Hugh Barnes wrote:
 On Sunday 02 November 2008, 23:06:05, Richard Fairhurst did write:
 Tom Hughes wrote:

 A wiki admin can delete it properly, and block the account.
 
 I guess that would involve nasty backdoor business in the database. Probably 
 best to start working within the Mediawiki app, I reckon.

Whatever a wiki admin does (and I'm not one so have no idea) is entirely 
done from the web interface - they have no special access to the database.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] Spam spam spam spam

2008-11-02 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is it
 simply a matter of deleting all content from the page, or does that
 leave it in the history for spiders to pick up?

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom Hughes wrote:

 A wiki admin can delete it properly, and block the account.

 Hokay. I guess what I'm trying to ask is whether there's a procedure
 (e.g. flagging spam on a wiki page, or category, which several people
 can follow) which might reduce the inevitably OSM tendency for the
 way to get something fixed is to mail TomH. I'm trying to be
 considerate. ;)


Wiki admins can mar an whole page as invisible very easily, it's much
harder to delete  single revisions of a page. If you happen to be an
admin you  can read the handbook:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Administrator's_Handbook/Page_Deletion


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