Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Ed Loach
Michal:

 http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/

Serge:

 http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/

Colin:

 http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map

I would be interested to know how Changepipe compares to both of the
above. Perhaps I'll have to email a polygon...

Owl is great in that it only tells you about changes in your bbox
and not changesets that are larger than your bbox, cover the bbox,
but contain no changes within it. It does fall behind occasionally,
but when it is up-to-date it is great (though usually too overloaded
to view the tiles on the site itself). 

The ITOworld product does great visualisations of changes in your
area and lets you filter them in various ways, but only seems to
cover ways so wouldn't report on new/edited/deleted POIs (unless
this has changed recently).

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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Mikel Maron
Nice. GeoRSS?

I would really love to see these kind of monitoring tools baked into osm.org...
 
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Subject: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe
 
Hi,

I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
    http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/

Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!

-mike.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Tom Hughes

On 02/02/12 13:58, Mikel Maron wrote:


I would really love to see these kind of monitoring tools baked into
osm.org...


As I'm sure you're well aware you will have them as soon as Matt gets 
OWL up and running on the dedicated server we provided for the task.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
        http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/

 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!

 -mike.



Yes, cool. I'd love to try it.
I just drew something. Finished up with a double click. Polygon turns
orange. The box below says 'draw something above'. Repeat. Anyway, I'm
interested in Salt Lake City ;)
Like others, I wonder how this will relate to OWL, which is about to
get its own server. It would be good to have one tool for monitoring.
I looked at OWL before but the core is C++ . Would there be a way to
consolidate?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Josh Doe
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
        http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/

 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!

 Yes, cool. I'd love to try it.
 I just drew something. Finished up with a double click. Polygon turns
 orange. The box below says 'draw something above'. Repeat.

It's not entirely intuitive. The 'send me an email' mailto link
includes the polygon in the body.
-Josh

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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Michal Migurski
On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/
 
 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!
 
 -mike.
 
 
 
 Yes, cool. I'd love to try it.
 I just drew something. Finished up with a double click. Polygon turns
 orange. The box below says 'draw something above'. Repeat. Anyway, I'm
 interested in Salt Lake City ;)
 Like others, I wonder how this will relate to OWL, which is about to
 get its own server. It would be good to have one tool for monitoring.
 I looked at OWL before but the core is C++ . Would there be a way to
 consolidate?


Hm - that box should have a long POLYGON or MULTIPOLYGON string in it when 
you've finished drawing, not draw something. What's your OS/browser?

-mike.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Michal Migurski
On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Michal Migurski wrote:

 On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
 
 Yes, cool. I'd love to try it.
 I just drew something. Finished up with a double click. Polygon turns
 orange. The box below says 'draw something above'. Repeat. Anyway, I'm
 interested in Salt Lake City ;)
 
 
 Hm - that box should have a long POLYGON or MULTIPOLYGON string in it when 
 you've finished drawing, not draw something. What's your OS/browser?


Oops, sorry Firefox users. Element.innerText wasn't working, but it should do 
the right thing now.

-mike.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
        http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/

 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!

 -mike.



 Yes, cool. I'd love to try it.
 I just drew something. Finished up with a double click. Polygon turns
 orange. The box below says 'draw something above'. Repeat. Anyway, I'm
 interested in Salt Lake City ;)
 Like others, I wonder how this will relate to OWL, which is about to
 get its own server. It would be good to have one tool for monitoring.
 I looked at OWL before but the core is C++ . Would there be a way to
 consolidate?


 Hm - that box should have a long POLYGON or MULTIPOLYGON string in it when 
 you've finished drawing, not draw something. What's your OS/browser?


Up to date Firefox on Windows 7. It does work in up-to-date Chrome on
the same platform. I just checked and can confirm that the email link
*does* contain the polygon info in Firefox even if it doesn't display
in the box underneath the map.
-- 
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geospatial omnivore
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salt lake city, ut 84103
801-550-5815
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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Michal Migurski
I didn't take it that way, Serge, but thank you.

To be honest I didn't really think about OWL and ITOWorld when writing this. I 
was just looking for a minimally useful thing that handled polygons smoothly 
and was fast to set up. I was motivated by the potential needs of US users like 
Learon Dalby, who spoke at the Atlanta SOTM-US about his need for a way to see 
changes in Arkansas so that he could notify county GIS managers about them and 
make appropriate corrections to government data. Administrative boundaries are 
large, irregular shapes, and OWL seemed to be focused on small urban areas 
(correct me if I'm wrong about this).

Mikel: I'm using Atom; can I just namespace GeoRSS into an Atom feed and have 
it work? Are bounding boxes for changesets the most useful thing, because I'm 
using node positions to calculate intersections.

-mike.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:

 I received some feedback that I was not very positive on this project.
 
 If my question came out that way, I want to publicly correct this perception.
 
 I find this code very exciting, and can see several potential uses for
 it already.
 
 - Serge
 
 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/
 
 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!
 
 -mike.
 
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This is kick-ass great, again. Dead-simple way to create areas to follow.
I love it how easy it is to create the polygons -- and get the plain txt 
coordinates for them.

Could this polygon tool pt b integrated w OWL? Can someone give guidance on 
visualizing the feed content? 

I'm copying this to both hot  talk-ht as I just yesterday talked w Nico  
Brian about (and pulled hair out of my head due to) following edits in defined 
areas and know that this will help many operations on the field.

I'll send the polygons later, Mike. 

Thnx! And cheers from the bumpy rds of PaP,
-Jaakko 

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From: Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:57:59 
To: openstreetmap Openstreetmaptalk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with
Changepipe

I didn't take it that way, Serge, but thank you.

To be honest I didn't really think about OWL and ITOWorld when writing this. I 
was just looking for a minimally useful thing that handled polygons smoothly 
and was fast to set up. I was motivated by the potential needs of US users like 
Learon Dalby, who spoke at the Atlanta SOTM-US about his need for a way to see 
changes in Arkansas so that he could notify county GIS managers about them and 
make appropriate corrections to government data. Administrative boundaries are 
large, irregular shapes, and OWL seemed to be focused on small urban areas 
(correct me if I'm wrong about this).

Mikel: I'm using Atom; can I just namespace GeoRSS into an Atom feed and have 
it work? Are bounding boxes for changesets the most useful thing, because I'm 
using node positions to calculate intersections.

-mike.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:

 I received some feedback that I was not very positive on this project.
 
 If my question came out that way, I want to publicly correct this perception.
 
 I find this code very exciting, and can see several potential uses for
 it already.
 
 - Serge
 
 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/
 
 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!
 
 -mike.
 
 
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Re: [Talk-ht] [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This is kick-ass great, again. Dead-simple way to create areas to follow.
I love it how easy it is to create the polygons -- and get the plain txt 
coordinates for them.

Could this polygon tool pt b integrated w OWL? Can someone give guidance on 
visualizing the feed content? 

I'm copying this to both hot  talk-ht as I just yesterday talked w Nico  
Brian about (and pulled hair out of my head due to) following edits in defined 
areas and know that this will help many operations on the field.

I'll send the polygons later, Mike. 

Thnx! And cheers from the bumpy rds of PaP,
-Jaakko 

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From: Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:57:59 
To: openstreetmap Openstreetmapt...@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with
Changepipe

I didn't take it that way, Serge, but thank you.

To be honest I didn't really think about OWL and ITOWorld when writing this. I 
was just looking for a minimally useful thing that handled polygons smoothly 
and was fast to set up. I was motivated by the potential needs of US users like 
Learon Dalby, who spoke at the Atlanta SOTM-US about his need for a way to see 
changes in Arkansas so that he could notify county GIS managers about them and 
make appropriate corrections to government data. Administrative boundaries are 
large, irregular shapes, and OWL seemed to be focused on small urban areas 
(correct me if I'm wrong about this).

Mikel: I'm using Atom; can I just namespace GeoRSS into an Atom feed and have 
it work? Are bounding boxes for changesets the most useful thing, because I'm 
using node positions to calculate intersections.

-mike.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:

 I received some feedback that I was not very positive on this project.
 
 If my question came out that way, I want to publicly correct this perception.
 
 I find this code very exciting, and can see several potential uses for
 it already.
 
 - Serge
 
 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/
 
 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!
 
 -mike.
 
 
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[OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-01 Thread Michal Migurski
Hi,

I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/

Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!

-mike.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-01 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this:
        http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/

 Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a 
 polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page!

This seems a lot like OWL. What makes it different?

http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/

- Serge

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