Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Mateusz Konieczny]

On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:59:26 -0700
Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi all, 
> 
> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good
> understanding of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for
> you that would make it better? 
> 
> I am asking because I am working on a new major release. 
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I tried using Maproulette but ended not doing this due to multiple bugs
that together made using this service extremely flustrating.

So I would recommend fixing known issues rather adding new features.

Reported issues that I run into:

- https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/issues/310
- https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/issues/335
- https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/issues/337

Note that there were many more similar problems but given that reported
issues are not fixed I decided against spending time on reporting them.

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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Stefan Keller]

Hi Martijn

I support the idea that a user can define an area-of-his-interests (as
part of his profile/account?).

My another wish is to show OSM data (Overpass?) in the first place -
similar to what map data layer in osm.org shows but only around
coordinate.

Background is, that when the challenge get's older, it's more and more
likely that the error in question has been 'fixed' (e.g. new object
entered) by someone else. The motivation for this is similar to having
iD integrated but probably quicker and less resource hungry.

Cheers, Stefan

2017-11-25 19:26 GMT+01:00 James :
> There's already a false positive button for that. Skip is for meh don't want
> to do that right now.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2017-11-24 22:18 GMT+01:00 Dave F :
>> >
>> > On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this
>> >> task".
>> >
>> > No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's
>> > anything wrong.
>>
>> No: "Skip" IMHO really means what Joost said.
>> What you described is "False positive".
>>
>> -Stefan
>>
>>
>> 2017-11-25 11:39 GMT+01:00 Dave F :
>> > You need evidence that randomness combined with guesswork produces
>> > erroneous
>> > output? Really? Look around, it's everywhere!
>> >
>> > DaveF
>> >
>> >
>> > On 25/11/2017 01:37, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I’d appreciate you back that statement up with some data that goes
>> >> beyond
>> >> some isolated examples, Dave.
>> >>
>> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Dave F 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
>> 
>>  For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this
>>  task".
>> >>>
>> >>> No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think
>> >>> there's
>> >>> anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean
>> >>> there's an error that definitely needs fixing
>> >>>
>> >>> There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in
>> >>> Maproulette even when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is
>> >>> wrong. It
>> >>> adds *erroneous* data to OSM.
>> >>>
>> >>> There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name.
>> >>>
>> >>> I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette.
>> >>>
>> >>> DaveF
>> >>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[James]

There's already a false positive button for that. Skip is for meh don't
want to do that right now.



On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2017-11-24 22:18 GMT+01:00 Dave F :
> >
> > On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
> >>
> >> For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this
> >> task".
> >
> > No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's
> > anything wrong.
>
> No: "Skip" IMHO really means what Joost said.
> What you described is "False positive".
>
> -Stefan
>
>
> 2017-11-25 11:39 GMT+01:00 Dave F :
> > You need evidence that randomness combined with guesswork produces
> erroneous
> > output? Really? Look around, it's everywhere!
> >
> > DaveF
> >
> >
> > On 25/11/2017 01:37, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> >>
> >> I’d appreciate you back that statement up with some data that goes
> beyond
> >> some isolated examples, Dave.
> >>
> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Dave F 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
> 
>  For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this
>  task".
> >>>
> >>> No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's
> >>> anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean
> >>> there's an error that definitely needs fixing
> >>>
> >>> There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in
> >>> Maproulette even when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is
> wrong. It
> >>> adds *erroneous* data to OSM.
> >>>
> >>> There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name.
> >>>
> >>> I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette.
> >>>
> >>> DaveF
> >>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Stefan Keller]

Hi,

2017-11-24 22:18 GMT+01:00 Dave F :
>
> On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
>>
>> For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this
>> task".
>
> No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's
> anything wrong.

No: "Skip" IMHO really means what Joost said.
What you described is "False positive".

-Stefan


2017-11-25 11:39 GMT+01:00 Dave F :
> You need evidence that randomness combined with guesswork produces erroneous
> output? Really? Look around, it's everywhere!
>
> DaveF
>
>
> On 25/11/2017 01:37, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>>
>> I’d appreciate you back that statement up with some data that goes beyond
>> some isolated examples, Dave.
>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Dave F  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:

 For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this
 task".
>>>
>>> No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's
>>> anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean
>>> there's an error that definitely needs fixing
>>>
>>> There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in
>>> Maproulette even when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is wrong. It
>>> adds *erroneous* data to OSM.
>>>
>>> There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name.
>>>
>>> I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette.
>>>
>>> DaveF
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[ajt1...@gmail.com]

On 24/11/2017 21:18, Dave F wrote:


On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this 
task".


No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think 
there's anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task 
doesn't mean there's an error that definitely needs fixing




I presume the "false positive" button is for that (although as I've just 
noted in another reply, that doesn't seem to work for me).


There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in 
Maproulette even when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is 
wrong. It adds *erroneous* data to OSM.


There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name.

I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette.



There are a number of these sorts of tools around, and to be honest 
(with a DWG hat on) I see fewer issues raised about Maproulette than, 
say people using HOT's tasking manager and not knowing what they are 
doing (not usually their fault - it's almost always due to not enough 
suitable training).  Maybe people who use Maproulette have an idea of 
what OSM is and are already familiar with one or another editor and 
maybe that isn't true about some HOT mapping.


The only recent Maproulette issue I can think of where dodgy POIs added 
via MAPS.ME had some extra "missing" tags added via Maproulette.  The 
task in Maproulette should really have included "check that these things 
added by MAPS.ME users weren't mistaggings or just personal markers", 
but that's really something that should be in the task definition 
itself.  There's a discussion about a general "form of words" over at 
https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/issues/348 - that, together 
with the availability of "false positive" and "skip" buttons should 
allow people to only contribute sensible data.


Best Regards,

Andy




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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[ajt1...@gmail.com]

On 19/11/2017 20:59, Martijn van Exel wrote:
For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good 
understanding of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for 
you that would make it better?




Most importantly,

I'd try and make it a bit more obvious what it is.  When you go to 
http://maproulette.org/ you see a map, some numbers, and not much else.  
There's a "sign in" button, but nothing explaining what benefits there 
are (to me or it) from doing so.  Nothing says what the site is or what 
it is for.  The only mention of OSM is in the attibution at the bottom 
right, and that says "CC-BY-SA".



In addition:

Pressing return in the search box doesn't do anything.

What is presumably a settings icon at the right just displays some 
numbers but doesn't say what they are (e.g. "Total Tasks" - but what is 
a "Task"?)


There's a button at the top left that just seems to refresh the screen.

If I zoom in to a marker the "Edit" and "False Positive" buttons are 
greyed out, though oddly there are keyboard shortcuts for these. There 
are hard-coded options for a couple of OSM editors (though again oddly 
not a basic "edit" link).


The "I fixed it" button produces a "Not Authorised" error.

Best Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Dave F]

You need evidence that randomness combined with guesswork produces 
erroneous output? Really? Look around, it's everywhere!


DaveF

On 25/11/2017 01:37, Martijn van Exel wrote:

I’d appreciate you back that statement up with some data that goes beyond some 
isolated examples, Dave.


On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Dave F  wrote:


On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:

For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this task".

No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's 
anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean there's 
an error that definitely needs fixing

There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in Maproulette even 
when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is wrong. It adds *erroneous* data 
to OSM.

There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name.

I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette.

DaveF



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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

I’d appreciate you back that statement up with some data that goes beyond some 
isolated examples, Dave.

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Dave F  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
>> For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this task".
> 
> No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's 
> anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean 
> there's an error that definitely needs fixing
> 
> There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in Maproulette 
> even when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is wrong. It adds 
> *erroneous* data to OSM.
> 
> There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name.
> 
> I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette.
> 
> DaveF
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Dave F]

On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote:
For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this 
task".


No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's 
anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean 
there's an error that definitely needs fixing


There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in 
Maproulette even when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is wrong. 
It adds *erroneous* data to OSM.


There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name.

I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette.

DaveF



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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

Hoi Joost, Mike, James, 

The Skipped status merely indicates that one user has decided to skip it, but 
that does not preclude others from seeing it. They will see the ‘Skipped’ 
status so they know that a user has previously skipped it, but otherwise it’s 
still in the pool with all other active tasks.

I had an idea once to keep a skipped counter so after a defined number of users 
skipping the same task it would be taken out of the pool. That information does 
live in the database, so technically this is possible to implement. Of course 
as a challenge owner you’re welcome to pull the statuses of your tasks at any 
time and do what you want with them based on that information.

Martijn

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:31 AM, Mike N  wrote:
> 
> On 11/24/2017 6:45 AM, James wrote:
>> Yeah I'd like the skipped tasks to comeback eventually, sometimes I look
>> at objects and its either too complicated to fix for my current state of
>> mind or the imagery makes it hard but I'd like to get back to it eventually
> 
> From what I have seen, the skipped tasks do come back randomly.   But it 
> would be useful for advanced users or administrators to be able to select and 
> work on only the skipped tasks.
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Mike N]

On 11/24/2017 6:45 AM, James wrote:

Yeah I'd like the skipped tasks to comeback eventually, sometimes I look
at objects and its either too complicated to fix for my current state of
mind or the imagery makes it hard but I'd like to get back to it eventually


 From what I have seen, the skipped tasks do come back randomly.   But 
it would be useful for advanced users or administrators to be able to 
select and work on only the skipped tasks.


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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[James]

Yeah I'd like the skipped tasks to comeback eventually, sometimes I look at
objects and its either too complicated to fix for my current state of mind
or the imagery makes it hard but I'd like to get back to it eventually

On Nov 24, 2017 3:04 AM, "joost schouppe"  wrote:

> I've only started using Maproulette recently, but I'm really impressed
> with what you can do with it. It is the -perfect- user interface for the
> tasks we currently generate with the Road Completion Project [1].
> We're going to consume the generated metadata about Tasks for further
> steps in the analysis, which you can do using the API.  But as a Challenge
> manager, I miss doing some stuff in the Maproulette interface itself. For
> example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this task". It
> seems they are removed from the Challenge as mapable objects. I'd like to
> be able to cycle through the skipped tasks and start fixing them myself, or
> giving a link to those often-a-bit-harder tasks to some mappers I trust
> with this. Or if I see that there's nothing special about the skipped
> tasks, I'd like to be able to set them all as regular tasks again.
> If anything of this is already possible, sorry! (I did read the manual :)
>
>
>
> 1: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/
> Road_completion_project
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[joost schouppe]

I've only started using Maproulette recently, but I'm really impressed with
what you can do with it. It is the -perfect- user interface for the tasks
we currently generate with the Road Completion Project [1].
We're going to consume the generated metadata about Tasks for further steps
in the analysis, which you can do using the API.  But as a Challenge
manager, I miss doing some stuff in the Maproulette interface itself. For
example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this task". It
seems they are removed from the Challenge as mapable objects. I'd like to
be able to cycle through the skipped tasks and start fixing them myself, or
giving a link to those often-a-bit-harder tasks to some mappers I trust
with this. Or if I see that there's nothing special about the skipped
tasks, I'd like to be able to set them all as regular tasks again.
If anything of this is already possible, sorry! (I did read the manual :)



1:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Road_completion_project
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Rory McCann]

Hi,

Like others I'd like a bbox filter so I could work on an area I know
well. The polygon fixing project was world wide, and I'd rather only fix
up things in my area.

Is there any reason there isn't a JOSM plugin? There's one for to-fix, a
similar tool.

Rory

On 19/11/17 21:59, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good
> understanding of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you
> that would make it better? 
> 
> I am asking because I am working on a new major release. 
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Erwin Olario]

Yes, a 'merge' function sounds right, Martijn. However, I'm only suggesting
it for tags, and not geometry.

/Erwin

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 02:16 Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Erwin,
>
> Are you suggesting MapRoulette have some sort of manual ‘merge’ function?
> Suggesting changes to tags (or even geometry) that the user would just
> confirm, instead of going to JOSM / iD and make edits manually?
>
> Martijn
>
> On Nov 20, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Erwin Olario  wrote:
>
> So sorry for the terse reply.
>
> Right now, the only way to build task is to specify the location or
> specific objects.
>
> The use-case I have in mind is when a data provider allows or donates
> their data into OSM, and apart from geographic location and geometry, they
> have specific attributes usable in OSM.
>
> For example, a local school department gives the local OSM community
> permission to use their school location data that includes the official
> school name (which may be missing or incomplete in the current database),
> and contact number, and official website. And instead of doing a bulkl
> import, and using MR, the data are presented to the MR contributor to be
> merged or added into OSM.
>
> In this example the tags: name, contact:phone, contact:website are added
> to the specific tasks of the challenge.
>
> /Erwin
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:36 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Erwin,
>>
>> Can you give an example of what you would like to see and how you would
>> like it to work?
>>
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>>
>> On November 20, 2017 at 6:30:01 AM, Erwin Olario (gov...@gmail.com)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wish to see support for OSM tags for tasks.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:02 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good
>>> understanding of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you
>>> that would make it better?
>>>
>>> I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

Erwin, 

Are you suggesting MapRoulette have some sort of manual ‘merge’ function? 
Suggesting changes to tags (or even geometry) that the user would just confirm, 
instead of going to JOSM / iD and make edits manually?

Martijn

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Erwin Olario  wrote:
> 
> So sorry for the terse reply.
> 
> Right now, the only way to build task is to specify the location or specific 
> objects. 
> 
> The use-case I have in mind is when a data provider allows or donates their 
> data into OSM, and apart from geographic location and geometry, they have 
> specific attributes usable in OSM.
> 
> For example, a local school department gives the local OSM community 
> permission to use their school location data that includes the official 
> school name (which may be missing or incomplete in the current database), and 
> contact number, and official website. And instead of doing a bulkl import, 
> and using MR, the data are presented to the MR contributor to be merged or 
> added into OSM.
> 
> In this example the tags: name, contact:phone, contact:website are added to 
> the specific tasks of the challenge.
> 
> /Erwin
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:36 AM Martijn van Exel  > wrote:
> Hi Erwin, 
> 
> Can you give an example of what you would like to see and how you would like 
> it to work?
> 
> -- 
> Martijn van Exel
> 
> On November 20, 2017 at 6:30:01 AM, Erwin Olario (gov...@gmail.com 
> ) wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I wish to see support for OSM tags for tasks.
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:02 AM Martijn van Exel > > wrote:
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of 
>> what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it 
>> better? 
>> 
>> I am asking because I am working on a new major release. 
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Lester Caine]

On 21/11/17 04:02, Marc Gemis wrote:
> I'll agree with Yuri that is has to be the choice of the mapper to
> work in a specific region and not the challenge creator.

I stopped using MapRoulette simply because it was taking me well out of
my comfort zone ...

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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[joost schouppe]

Hi Erwin,
This is entirely posible in Osmose. See for example:

http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#item=8120=13=44.8202=-0.5935=Mapnik=T=1%2C2%2C3==

2017-11-21 4:08 GMT+01:00 Erwin Olario :

> So sorry for the terse reply.
>
> Right now, the only way to build task is to specify the location or
> specific objects.
>
> The use-case I have in mind is when a data provider allows or donates
> their data into OSM, and apart from geographic location and geometry, they
> have specific attributes usable in OSM.
>
> For example, a local school department gives the local OSM community
> permission to use their school location data that includes the official
> school name (which may be missing or incomplete in the current database),
> and contact number, and official website. And instead of doing a bulkl
> import, and using MR, the data are presented to the MR contributor to be
> merged or added into OSM.
>
> In this example the tags: name, contact:phone, contact:website are added
> to the specific tasks of the challenge.
>
> /Erwin
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:36 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Erwin,
>>
>> Can you give an example of what you would like to see and how you would
>> like it to work?
>>
>> --
>> Martijn van Exel
>>
>> On November 20, 2017 at 6:30:01 AM, Erwin Olario (gov...@gmail.com)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wish to see support for OSM tags for tasks.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:02 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good
>>> understanding of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you
>>> that would make it better?
>>>
>>> I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
>>> --
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>> --
>>
>> /Erwin Olario
>>
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>> https://mstdn.io/@GOwin
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>> --
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[joost schouppe]

Martijn,
Maproulette does give hashtags to ID changesets using the changeset comment
right now. There are tools like osmcha or Pascal Neis's osm-changesets to
easily filter them. A dedicated tag might of course help find "anything
that started with a QA tool", which is then filter-able by tool and/or
Challenge.

2017-11-20 22:49 GMT+01:00 Bryan Housel :

> Hey Martijn, it’s currently possible to send comments and hashtags to iD
> (they can be sent as two different parameters, or just embed the hashtags
> in the comments like the task managers currently do).  It’s not possible to
> set other changeset tags, but it is something I could add if there is a
> good use case for it.
>
> Thanks, Bryan
>
>
>
> > On Nov 20, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > That is a good idea and there are already some ‘hashtags’ that
> MapRoulette sends to JOSM. I don’t know if this is possible in iD as well.
> I think it is something that could be improved upon. Perhaps with changeset
> tags (is that what you are suggesting?)
> >
> > Does anyone know if JOSM and / or iD support ‘sending’ changeset tags
> through remote control / the querystring?
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> > --
> > Martijn van Exel
> >
> > On November 20, 2017 at 2:00:36 PM, Pierre Béland (pierz...@yahoo.fr)
> wrote:
> >> Hi Martijn
> >> We see an increase of coordinatead actions via QA and TM tools. But
> this is not systematically
> >> documented on the Changeset metadata. For QA tools, sometimes we see in
> the comments
> >> reference to MapRoulette or other tools.
> >> It is possible for these tools to transfer infos to editors such as iD
> and JOSM. It would
> >> be good that tags are transferred to the editors to better document the
> coordinated actions.
> >> For TM tools, it could be host and project_no / Title. For QA, it could
> be host and project.
> >> For Maroulette this could beQA=MaprouleteProject=XXX where XXX
> corresponds to a particular
> >> challenge.
> >>
> >> Pierre
> >>
> >>
> >> Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 15:50:21 HNE, Martijn van Exel a écrit :
> >>
> >> Marc,
> >>
> >> Good point and something that has come up often.
> >> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a
> challenge owner, to split
> >> up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such.
> >>
> >> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite
> sure how to best
> >> do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge ‘centroids’
> (simple), another
> >> would be to consider whatever challenge has at least one task within
> the current map bounds
> >> (harder). What would be your idea about this? Others with an opinion?
> >> --
> >> Martijn van Exel
> >>
> >> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> >>> The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> >>> missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> >>> within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
> >>>
> >>> m.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>  Hi all,
> 
>  For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good
> understanding of
>  what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would
> make it
>  better?
> 
>  I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
>  --
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Marc Gemis]

Martijn,

I'll agree with Yuri that is has to be the choice of the mapper to
work in a specific region and not the challenge creator. I don't want
to ask each challenge creator to split up the challenge in smaller
chunks, just because I feel uncomfortable editing outside a certain
area. This area can also be different from challenge to challenge and
from mapper to mapper.

You already have a view where you show the individual tasks within a
challenge. One can pick a task from this view right now, but after
marking the task as completed, a completely random one is chosen
again.

For me, it would be sufficient to have a button/switch on the screen
with all individual tasks that switches to "only tasks from the
current bounding box". Would that be feasible ?

m.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> Marc,
>
> Good point and something that has come up often.
> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
> owner, to split up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such.
>
> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
> how to best do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge 
> ‘centroids’ (simple), another would be to consider whatever challenge has at 
> least one task within the current map bounds (harder). What would be your 
> idea about this? Others with an opinion?
> --
> Martijn van Exel
>
> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
>> missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
>> within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
>>
>> m.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding 
>> > of
>> > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
>> > better?
>> >
>> > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
>> > --
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>> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Erwin Olario]

So sorry for the terse reply.

Right now, the only way to build task is to specify the location or
specific objects.

The use-case I have in mind is when a data provider allows or donates their
data into OSM, and apart from geographic location and geometry, they have
specific attributes usable in OSM.

For example, a local school department gives the local OSM community
permission to use their school location data that includes the official
school name (which may be missing or incomplete in the current database),
and contact number, and official website. And instead of doing a bulkl
import, and using MR, the data are presented to the MR contributor to be
merged or added into OSM.

In this example the tags: name, contact:phone, contact:website are added to
the specific tasks of the challenge.

/Erwin



On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:36 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi Erwin,
>
> Can you give an example of what you would like to see and how you would
> like it to work?
>
> --
> Martijn van Exel
>
> On November 20, 2017 at 6:30:01 AM, Erwin Olario (gov...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>
> I wish to see support for OSM tags for tasks.
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:02 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding
>> of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make
>> it better?
>>
>> I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
>> --
>> Martijn van Exel
>> ___
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>> talk@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>
> --
>
> /Erwin Olario
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Pierre Béland]

For JOSM

See this JOSM ticket that address transfer of HOT TM tags 
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/10758and this HOT TM ticket 
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/703
 
Pierre 
 

Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 16:49:39 HNE, Bryan Housel 
 a écrit :  
 
 Hey Martijn, it’s currently possible to send comments and hashtags to iD (they 
can be sent as two different parameters, or just embed the hashtags in the 
comments like the task managers currently do).  It’s not possible to set other 
changeset tags, but it is something I could add if there is a good use case for 
it.

Thanks, Bryan



> On Nov 20, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> That is a good idea and there are already some ‘hashtags’ that MapRoulette 
> sends to JOSM. I don’t know if this is possible in iD as well. I think it is 
> something that could be improved upon. Perhaps with changeset tags (is that 
> what you are suggesting?)
> 
> Does anyone know if JOSM and / or iD support ‘sending’ changeset tags through 
> remote control / the querystring?
> 
> Martijn
> 
> --  
> Martijn van Exel
> 
> On November 20, 2017 at 2:00:36 PM, Pierre Béland (pierz...@yahoo.fr) wrote:
>> Hi Martijn
>> We see an increase of coordinatead actions via QA and TM tools. But this is 
>> not systematically  
>> documented on the Changeset metadata. For QA tools, sometimes we see in the 
>> comments  
>> reference to MapRoulette or other tools.
>> It is possible for these tools to transfer infos to editors such as iD and 
>> JOSM. It would  
>> be good that tags are transferred to the editors to better document the 
>> coordinated actions.  
>> For TM tools, it could be host and project_no / Title. For QA, it could be 
>> host and project.  
>> For Maroulette this could beQA=MaprouleteProject=XXX where XXX corresponds 
>> to a particular  
>> challenge.
>> 
>> Pierre
>> 
>> 
>> Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 15:50:21 HNE, Martijn van Exel a écrit :
>> 
>> Marc,
>> 
>> Good point and something that has come up often.
>> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
>> owner, to split  
>> up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such.
>> 
>> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
>> how to best  
>> do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge ‘centroids’ 
>> (simple), another  
>> would be to consider whatever challenge has at least one task within the 
>> current map bounds  
>> (harder). What would be your idea about this? Others with an opinion?
>> --
>> Martijn van Exel
>> 
>> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>> The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
>>> missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
>>> within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
>>> 
>>> m.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding 
 of
 what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
 better?
 
 I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
 --
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Bryan Housel]

Hey Martijn, it’s currently possible to send comments and hashtags to iD (they 
can be sent as two different parameters, or just embed the hashtags in the 
comments like the task managers currently do).  It’s not possible to set other 
changeset tags, but it is something I could add if there is a good use case for 
it.

Thanks, Bryan



> On Nov 20, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> That is a good idea and there are already some ‘hashtags’ that MapRoulette 
> sends to JOSM. I don’t know if this is possible in iD as well. I think it is 
> something that could be improved upon. Perhaps with changeset tags (is that 
> what you are suggesting?)
> 
> Does anyone know if JOSM and / or iD support ‘sending’ changeset tags through 
> remote control / the querystring?
> 
> Martijn
> 
> --  
> Martijn van Exel
> 
> On November 20, 2017 at 2:00:36 PM, Pierre Béland (pierz...@yahoo.fr) wrote:
>> Hi Martijn
>> We see an increase of coordinatead actions via QA and TM tools. But this is 
>> not systematically  
>> documented on the Changeset metadata. For QA tools, sometimes we see in the 
>> comments  
>> reference to MapRoulette or other tools.
>> It is possible for these tools to transfer infos to editors such as iD and 
>> JOSM. It would  
>> be good that tags are transferred to the editors to better document the 
>> coordinated actions.  
>> For TM tools, it could be host and project_no / Title. For QA, it could be 
>> host and project.  
>> For Maroulette this could beQA=MaprouleteProject=XXX where XXX corresponds 
>> to a particular  
>> challenge.
>> 
>> Pierre
>> 
>> 
>> Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 15:50:21 HNE, Martijn van Exel a écrit :
>> 
>> Marc,
>> 
>> Good point and something that has come up often.
>> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
>> owner, to split  
>> up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such.
>> 
>> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
>> how to best  
>> do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge ‘centroids’ 
>> (simple), another  
>> would be to consider whatever challenge has at least one task within the 
>> current map bounds  
>> (harder). What would be your idea about this? Others with an opinion?
>> --
>> Martijn van Exel
>> 
>> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>> The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
>>> missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
>>> within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
>>> 
>>> m.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding 
 of
 what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
 better?
 
 I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
 --
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

Sorry, something went wrong with my previous email, I think. I’ll try and 
phrase again.

It is a good idea, Pierre, to have various tools use a consistent set of tags 
on changesets. I think that is what you are suggesting? MapRoulette already 
does send some ‘hashtags’ to JOSM. 

Who knows if JOSM and iD support sending changeset tags through remote control 
and query string respectively?

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On November 20, 2017 at 2:00:36 PM, Pierre Béland (pierz...@yahoo.fr) wrote:
> Hi Martijn
> We see an increase of coordinatead actions via QA and TM tools. But this is 
> not systematically  
> documented on the Changeset metadata. For QA tools, sometimes we see in the 
> comments  
> reference to MapRoulette or other tools.
> It is possible for these tools to transfer infos to editors such as iD and 
> JOSM. It would  
> be good that tags are transferred to the editors to better document the 
> coordinated actions.  
> For TM tools, it could be host and project_no / Title. For QA, it could be 
> host and project.  
> For Maroulette this could beQA=MaprouleteProject=XXX where XXX corresponds to 
> a particular  
> challenge.
>  
> Pierre
>  
>  
> Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 15:50:21 HNE, Martijn van Exel a écrit :
>  
> Marc,
>  
> Good point and something that has come up often.
> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
> owner, to split  
> up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such.
>  
> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
> how to best  
> do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge ‘centroids’ 
> (simple), another  
> would be to consider whatever challenge has at least one task within the 
> current map bounds  
> (harder). What would be your idea about this? Others with an opinion?
> --
> Martijn van Exel
>  
> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> > missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> > within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding 
> > > of
> > > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
> > > better?
> > >
> > > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
> > > --
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> > >
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Pierre Béland]

Martin,
Yes I suggest to add tags to the changeset metadata. On the HOT discussion list 
and the Github Tasking Manager project, you should find discussions about this. 
Yes, it is possible to send these tags with the remote control.
 
Pierre 
 

Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 16:45:02 HNE, Martijn van Exel  a 
écrit :  
 
 Hi Pierre,

That is a good idea and there are already some ‘hashtags’ that MapRoulette 
sends to JOSM. I don’t know if this is possible in iD as well. I think it is 
something that could be improved upon. Perhaps with changeset tags (is that 
what you are suggesting?)

Does anyone know if JOSM and / or iD support ‘sending’ changeset tags through 
remote control / the querystring?

Martijn

--  
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On November 20, 2017 at 2:00:36 PM, Pierre Béland (pierz...@yahoo.fr) wrote:
> Hi Martijn
> We see an increase of coordinatead actions via QA and TM tools. But this is 
> not systematically  
> documented on the Changeset metadata. For QA tools, sometimes we see in the 
> comments  
> reference to MapRoulette or other tools.
> It is possible for these tools to transfer infos to editors such as iD and 
> JOSM. It would  
> be good that tags are transferred to the editors to better document the 
> coordinated actions.  
> For TM tools, it could be host and project_no / Title. For QA, it could be 
> host and project.  
> For Maroulette this could beQA=MaprouleteProject=XXX where XXX corresponds to 
> a particular  
> challenge.
>  
> Pierre
>  
>  
> Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 15:50:21 HNE, Martijn van Exel a écrit :
>  
> Marc,
>  
> Good point and something that has come up often.
> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
> owner, to split  
> up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such.
>  
> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
> how to best  
> do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge ‘centroids’ 
> (simple), another  
> would be to consider whatever challenge has at least one task within the 
> current map bounds  
> (harder). What would be your idea about this? Others with an opinion?
> --
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>  
> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> > missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> > within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding 
> > > of
> > > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
> > > better?
> > >
> > > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi Pierre,

That is a good idea and there are already some ‘hashtags’ that MapRoulette 
sends to JOSM. I don’t know if this is possible in iD as well. I think it is 
something that could be improved upon. Perhaps with changeset tags (is that 
what you are suggesting?)

Does anyone know if JOSM and / or iD support ‘sending’ changeset tags through 
remote control / the querystring?

Martijn

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On November 20, 2017 at 2:00:36 PM, Pierre Béland (pierz...@yahoo.fr) wrote:
> Hi Martijn
> We see an increase of coordinatead actions via QA and TM tools. But this is 
> not systematically  
> documented on the Changeset metadata. For QA tools, sometimes we see in the 
> comments  
> reference to MapRoulette or other tools.
> It is possible for these tools to transfer infos to editors such as iD and 
> JOSM. It would  
> be good that tags are transferred to the editors to better document the 
> coordinated actions.  
> For TM tools, it could be host and project_no / Title. For QA, it could be 
> host and project.  
> For Maroulette this could beQA=MaprouleteProject=XXX where XXX corresponds to 
> a particular  
> challenge.
>  
> Pierre
>  
>  
> Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 15:50:21 HNE, Martijn van Exel a écrit :
>  
> Marc,
>  
> Good point and something that has come up often.
> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
> owner, to split  
> up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such.
>  
> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
> how to best  
> do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge ‘centroids’ 
> (simple), another  
> would be to consider whatever challenge has at least one task within the 
> current map bounds  
> (harder). What would be your idea about this? Others with an opinion?
> --
> Martijn van Exel
>  
> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> > missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> > within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding 
> > > of
> > > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
> > > better?
> > >
> > > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
> > > --
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> > >
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Martijn, I think this is very similar to what Osmose does in its DB view
(and I think several other tools do in the map view) - they offer a choice
of a "world view" (unfiltered) or a "region views" - where users may choose
what region they are interested in (e.g. a dropdown).

I think it would be better for MR to offer users an automatic preset region
filtering, rather than requiring each challenger author to create regional
sub-challenges.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Marc,
>
> Good point and something that has come up often.
> As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a
> challenge owner, to split up the challenge into regional chunks and label
> them as such.
>
> The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite
> sure how to best do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge
> ‘centroids’ (simple), another would be to consider whatever challenge has
> at least one task within the current map bounds (harder). What would be
> your idea about this? Others with an opinion?
> --
> Martijn van Exel
>
> On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> > The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> > missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> > within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good
> understanding of
> > > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would
> make it
> > > better?
> > >
> > > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
> > > --
> > > Martijn van Exel
> > >
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Pierre Béland]

Hi Martijn
We see an increase of coordinatead actions via QA and TM tools. But this is not 
systematically documented on the Changeset metadata. For QA tools, sometimes we 
see in the comments reference to MapRoulette or other tools. 
It is possible for these tools to transfer infos to editors such as iD and 
JOSM. It would be good that tags are transferred to the editors to better 
document the coordinated actions. For TM tools, it could be host and project_no 
/ Title. For QA, it could be host and project. 
For Maroulette this could beQA=MaprouleteProject=XXX where XXX corresponds to a 
particular challenge.
 
Pierre 
 

Le lundi 20 novembre 2017 15:50:21 HNE, Martijn van Exel  a 
écrit :  
 
 Marc, 

Good point and something that has come up often.
As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
owner, to split up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such. 

The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
how to best do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge 
‘centroids’ (simple), another would be to consider whatever challenge has at 
least one task within the current map bounds (harder). What would be your idea 
about this? Others with an opinion?
--  
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On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
> The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
>  
> m.
>  
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of
> > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
> > better?
> >
> > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
> > --
> > Martijn van Exel
> >
> > ___
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

Marc, 

Good point and something that has come up often.
As Joost mentioned in a reply, the easy solution for this is, as a challenge 
owner, to split up the challenge into regional chunks and label them as such. 

The new version will have ‘filter by current map bounds’. I’m not quite sure 
how to best do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge 
‘centroids’ (simple), another would be to consider whatever challenge has at 
least one task within the current map bounds (harder). What would be your idea 
about this? Others with an opinion?
--  
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On November 20, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote:
> The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
>  
> m.
>  
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of
> > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
> > better?
> >
> > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
> > --
> > Martijn van Exel
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[joost schouppe]

Marc, as task managers for this Belgian task, Ben and I could just as well
split the Challenge up into smaller bits, e.g. by town/village. For more
labour-intensive Challenges, we will probably do that.

I do agree that it would be nice to do such a thing. I wrote this Github
issue with a single Challenge in mind:
https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/issues/355

It might be interesting to also do something similar, but where you can see
-all- maproulette Tasks (regardless of the Challenge) in your local area.






2017-11-20 17:58 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :

> The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
> missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
> within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).
>
> m.
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good
> understanding of
> > what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make
> it
> > better?
> >
> > I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
> > --
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> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Marc Gemis]

The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add
missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues"
within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set).

m.

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of
> what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it
> better?
>
> I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi Erwin, 

Can you give an example of what you would like to see and how you would like it 
to work?

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On November 20, 2017 at 6:30:01 AM, Erwin Olario (gov...@gmail.com) wrote:


I wish to see support for OSM tags for tasks.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:02 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:
Hi all, 

For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of 
what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it 
better? 

I am asking because I am working on a new major release. 
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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Ilya Zverev]

Martijn van Exel wrote
> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of 
> what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it 
> better? 

Built-in iD editor, to avoid switching contexts.

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Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Erwin Olario]

I wish to see support for OSM tags for tasks.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:02 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding
> of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make
> it better?
>
> I am asking because I am working on a new major release.
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[OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all, 

For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of 
what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it 
better? 

I am asking because I am working on a new major release. 
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