Re: [OSM-talk] class:cycleway - how should it be done

2010-05-08 Thread Jens Müller
Am 03.05.2010 13:33, schrieb Felix Hartmann:
 Please use this thread if you support
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Class:bicycle
 and want to have a discussion with usable output.

class:bicycle:roadcycling=-3 to 3 -- Roadcycling for Recreation/Sport. 
Typical bicycle: Racing bike with thin tires (1.25)

As this is for sport only, I think we need something for vehicular 
cycling. We also need to distinguish between vehicular cyclists who 
follow the law and those who don't.


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[OSM-talk] class:cycleway - how should it be done

2010-05-03 Thread Felix Hartmann
Please use this thread if you support 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Class:bicycle
and want to have a discussion with usable output. Please be so polite 
and do not reply here if you think that this key is a bad idea. 
Constructive criticism on how to design class:bicycle key is discussed here.

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Re: [OSM-talk] class:cycleway - how should it be done

2010-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Felix,

Felix Hartmann wrote:
 Please use this thread if you support 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Class:bicycle
 and want to have a discussion with usable output. Please be so polite 
 and do not reply here if you think that this key is a bad idea. 
 Constructive criticism on how to design class:bicycle key is discussed here.

Can you please explain again which kind of free speech is permitted in 
which of your threads and Wiki pages. Maybe it would also make sense to 
create one mailing list thread for people with user names A-M and one 
for people with user names N-Z to reply in, just so that things don't 
get out of hand.

And then if we create one Wiki page for the naysayers and another one 
for those who think it's the best thing since sliced bread, then at 
least nobody has to deal with any opposition; that should make 
discussion so much easier.

Advance notice:

Later today, I'll start a thread about how to best proceed in shutting 
down OSM altogether. Please everybody refrain from commenting on 
shutting down OSM in that thread; the thread will be *only* for 
discussion on how to do it best. Please stick to constructive ideas 
about how to shut down OSM and be polite enough not to protest the basic 
concept.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] class:cycleway - how should it be done

2010-05-03 Thread Felix Hartmann


On 03.05.2010 15:40, Frederik Ramm wrote:
 Felix,

 Felix Hartmann wrote:
 Please use this thread if you support 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Class:bicycle
 and want to have a discussion with usable output. Please be so polite 
 and do not reply here if you think that this key is a bad idea. 
 Constructive criticism on how to design class:bicycle key is 
 discussed here.

 Can you please explain again which kind of free speech is permitted in 
 which of your threads and Wiki pages. Maybe it would also make sense 
 to create one mailing list thread for people with user names A-M and 
 one for people with user names N-Z to reply in, just so that things 
 don't get out of hand.

 And then if we create one Wiki page for the naysayers and another one 
 for those who think it's the best thing since sliced bread, then at 
 least nobody has to deal with any opposition; that should make 
 discussion so much easier.

 Advance notice:

 Later today, I'll start a thread about how to best proceed in shutting 
 down OSM altogether. Please everybody refrain from commenting on 
 shutting down OSM in that thread; the thread will be *only* for 
 discussion on how to do it best. Please stick to constructive ideas 
 about how to shut down OSM and be polite enough not to protest the 
 basic concept.

 Bye
 Frederik

Well OSM is like anarchy. There is one nice thing about it. Everyone can 
create rules like he want, and people can choose to respect them or not. 
Go forward and try to shutdown OSM :-). You decided not to follow the 
titles topic. That is your decision, but beware how people judge you on 
it (and that may be perfectly fine if you think, I don't mind, if you 
really don't mind...).

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