Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
This is the Wikipedia model. If you're not logged-in and you're not editing, you NEVER touch the main server. You're always accessing a cache server. On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:28 AM, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
Soyour point being? Are you giving Pro, Contra, an offer to help or a helpful suggestion? Marcus On 6 Feb 2009 09:35:21 +0100, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: This is the Wikipedia model. If you're not logged-in and you're not editing, you NEVER touch the main server. You're always accessing a cache server. On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:28 AM, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
It seems to work for them. I think it's a good idea for us. On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:57 AM, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: Soyour point being? Are you giving Pro, Contra, an offer to help or a helpful suggestion? Marcus On 6 Feb 2009 09:35:21 +0100, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: This is the Wikipedia model. If you're not logged-in and you're not editing, you NEVER touch the main server. You're always accessing a cache server. On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:28 AM, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
Russ Nelson wrote: It seems to work for them. I think it's a good idea for us. I'm sure at some point we'll need to do it, but we haven't really reached that point yet and we certainly don't have the resources to do it yet. There are also a number of significant but important differences between what wikipedia do and what was being proposed for us - all the servers and infrastructure used by wikipedia are owned and operated by them while Marcus was suggesting clustering third party servers which is not something we will be doing as far as I'm concerned. Wikipedia also have all the servers, both read-only and read-write, using the same database, or a slave of the same database rather than having lots of independent databases that try and stay in sync via external dumps and diffs. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
Am 06.02.2009 um 08:28 schrieb marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com: Hello, what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? Many do not need data that is accurate up to an hour but as there are no other servers they have to query the main-api-server anyway. Packaged up for an averare unix-guy to install in an apache-vhost, maybe with a central round-robin-dns over all such api-mirrors we can take a lot of load from the main server. I think you know about ROMA and TRAPI. But i think you are speaking about a exact readonly-copy of the api. Regards Jonas Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:18 AM, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:23:22 +0100, Jonas Krückel (John07) o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: Am 06.02.2009 um 08:28 schrieb marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com: Hello, what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? Many do not need data that is accurate up to an hour but as there are no other servers they have to query the main-api-server anyway. Packaged up for an averare unix-guy to install in an apache-vhost, maybe with a central round-robin-dns over all such api-mirrors we can take a lot of load from the main server. I think you know about ROMA and TRAPI. But i think you are speaking about a exact readonly-copy of the api. No, I was indeed speaking about data that is a few minutes (/hours/days) old. I was not aware of ROMA and it seems to be exactly what I was aiming for. There is no need to get test-data for development, map-downloads by or for navigation-systems and anything that does not require editing of the most recent state to cause load on a central api-server. There's also XAPI: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi Thank you. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:23:22 +0100, Jonas Krückel (John07) o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: Am 06.02.2009 um 08:28 schrieb marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com: Hello, what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? Many do not need data that is accurate up to an hour but as there are no other servers they have to query the main-api-server anyway. Packaged up for an averare unix-guy to install in an apache-vhost, maybe with a central round-robin-dns over all such api-mirrors we can take a lot of load from the main server. I think you know about ROMA and TRAPI. But i think you are speaking about a exact readonly-copy of the api. No, I was indeed speaking about data that is a few minutes (/hours/days) old. I was not aware of ROMA and it seems to be exactly what I was aiming for. There is no need to get test-data for development, map-downloads by or for navigation-systems and anything that does not require editing of the most recent state to cause load on a central api-server. Thank you. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors
Hello, what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? Many do not need data that is accurate up to an hour but as there are no other servers they have to query the main-api-server anyway. Packaged up for an averare unix-guy to install in an apache-vhost, maybe with a central round-robin-dns over all such api-mirrors we can take a lot of load from the main server. Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
