Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 5 October 2010 13:05, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,

 I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was
 given permission to trace from Spot imagery.  Is this for France only
 coverage?

 blog post:

 http://www.geographiques.org/carnet/2010/10/05/spot-images-met-a-disposition-de-la-communaute-openstreetmap-les-donnees-spotmaps/

 google translate link:

 http://translate.google.com.ph/translate?js=nprev=_thl=tlie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geographiques.org%2Fcarnet%2F2010%2F10%2F05%2Fspot-images-met-a-disposition-de-la-communaute-openstreetmap-les-donnees-spotmaps%2F

 Hoping we can do this for the Philippines as well.


I am planning to officially translate the announcement today.
The data is only available for a period of 6 months for France only . There
is no plan as of now for other countries. Whether the deal is extended or
not will depend on how much the data is used and its impact on the resulting
map. Many people in France have starting using the data to enhance the
polygons that were imported during the Corine Land Cover import. The
precision of 2.5 m doesn't allow too much precision in drawing roads and
buildings.

Emilie Laffray
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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:05, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was
 given permission to trace from Spot imagery.  Is this for France only
 coverage?

Probably yes. I asked the same question for Iceland once, but it seems
that SPOT is an aggregate of differently licensed data. So what
applies to France doesn't for the rest of the world.

But maybe someone else can correct me on that, I'm not sure.

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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Vincent Pottier

On 05/10/2010 15:11, Pieren wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 
ava...@gmail.com mailto:ava...@gmail.com wrote:


but it seems
that SPOT is an aggregate of differently licensed data. So what
applies to France doesn't for the rest of the world.

But maybe someone else can correct me on that, I'm not sure.



SPOT is an imagery provider, so they can apply the licence they want 
on their production. They decided to create a special one for this 
experimental phase of  6 months. The special licence for OSM (in 
english) is here:

http://www.youmapps.org/licenses/EULA-OSM-en.html

SPOTmaps, the product (in french):
http://www.spotimage.com/web/2214-spotmaps-tableau.php

As Emilie said, it's 2.5m resolution + 15m accuracy for France, 
orthorecitified. It is normally sold 2€ per km2 but is free for France 
and only for OpenStreetMap for the next 6 months, renewable. After 
this period and depending on its success, geographic extensions will 
be evaluated by SPOT.


Pieren
So people mapping using the SPOT imagery are invited to add the source 
CNET/SPOT image on they data to help evaluating, to see the experience 
reconducted, and maybe extended to other countries.

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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi
Hi,

I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a
test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual
benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to foster an extended
collaboration.

Here is the SPOtMaps page in English :
http://www.spotimage.com/web/en/1285-spotmaps.php

And I just want to correct the spelling for the source tag : source=Cnes /
Spot Image

Jeff.

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2010/10/5 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com

  On 05/10/2010 15:11, Pieren wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 
 ava...@gmail.comwrote:

 but it seems
 that SPOT is an aggregate of differently licensed data. So what
 applies to France doesn't for the rest of the world.

 But maybe someone else can correct me on that, I'm not sure.



 SPOT is an imagery provider, so they can apply the licence they want on
 their production. They decided to create a special one for this experimental
 phase of  6 months. The special licence for OSM (in english) is here:
 http://www.youmapps.org/licenses/EULA-OSM-en.html

 SPOTmaps, the product (in french):
 http://www.spotimage.com/web/2214-spotmaps-tableau.php

 As Emilie said, it's 2.5m resolution + 15m accuracy for France,
 orthorecitified. It is normally sold 2€ per km2 but is free for France and
 only for OpenStreetMap for the next 6 months, renewable. After this period
 and depending on its success, geographic extensions will be evaluated by
 SPOT.

 Pieren

 So people mapping using the SPOT imagery are invited to add the source
 CNET/SPOT image on they data to help evaluating, to see the experience
 reconducted, and maybe extended to other countries.
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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Jeremy G
Hi,

I'm the author of the blog post. Sorry Emilie if you were planning an
official announcement, I've posted right after reading the info on the OSM
Talk-fr, hope it's OK.

Once again congratulations to every person involved in this agreement, it's
a great progress for OpenStreetMap in general :)

Jeremy

2010/10/5 Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi jeanfrancois.fa...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a
 test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual
 benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to foster an extended
 collaboration.

 Here is the SPOtMaps page in English :
 http://www.spotimage.com/web/en/1285-spotmaps.php

 And I just want to correct the spelling for the source tag : source=Cnes /
 Spot Image

 Jeff.

 --
 Jean-Francois FAUDI, Spot Image Labs
 Web Site : http://www.spotimage.com | http://labs.spotimage.com/


 2010/10/5 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com

  On 05/10/2010 15:11, Pieren wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 but it seems
 that SPOT is an aggregate of differently licensed data. So what
 applies to France doesn't for the rest of the world.

 But maybe someone else can correct me on that, I'm not sure.



 SPOT is an imagery provider, so they can apply the licence they want on
 their production. They decided to create a special one for this experimental
 phase of  6 months. The special licence for OSM (in english) is here:
 http://www.youmapps.org/licenses/EULA-OSM-en.html

 SPOTmaps, the product (in french):
 http://www.spotimage.com/web/2214-spotmaps-tableau.php

 As Emilie said, it's 2.5m resolution + 15m accuracy for France,
 orthorecitified. It is normally sold 2€ per km2 but is free for France and
 only for OpenStreetMap for the next 6 months, renewable. After this period
 and depending on its success, geographic extensions will be evaluated by
 SPOT.

 Pieren

 So people mapping using the SPOT imagery are invited to add the source
 CNET/SPOT image on they data to help evaluating, to see the experience
 reconducted, and maybe extended to other countries.
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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 14:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi
jeanfrancois.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a
 test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual
 benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to foster an extended
 collaboration.

 Here is the SPOtMaps page in English :
 http://www.spotimage.com/web/en/1285-spotmaps.php

 And I just want to correct the spelling for the source tag : source=Cnes /
 Spot Image

Hi Jeff. I was wondering what the SPOT-5 coverage was over
Iceland. It's not listed on that page, in the KML file or in the
country list. But according to this:

http://www.lmi.is/pages/fjarkonnun/spot-5-myndir-keyptar-2008-og-2009/

And:

http://www.google.com/search?q=iceland+site:spotimage.com

There's at least some coverage. But I assume it's really sparse or in
low resolution and is thus is not listed on the main listing?

Anyway, if you're looking for a country that you probably have minimal
commercial gain anyway and that doesn't have any imagery already
(except for Landsat) the mappers in Iceland would love to get access
to SPOT-5 for tracing.

Thanks for your time.

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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Vincent Pottier

On 05/10/2010 16:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi wrote:
And I just want to correct the spelling for the source tag : 
source=Cnes / Spot Image

Sorry
A old family story with the CNET (telecommunication)...
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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 5 October 2010 15:51, Jeremy G jeremy@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm the author of the blog post. Sorry Emilie if you were planning an
 official announcement, I've posted right after reading the info on the OSM
 Talk-fr, hope it's OK.

 Once again congratulations to every person involved in this agreement, it's
 a great progress for OpenStreetMap in general :)


No worries :)
It is always good to see progress in the right direction :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Jo

 I downloaded josm-latest.jar, started it, F12, download list, update
 plugins, but nothing related to SPOT is available among my plugins. Do I
 need to add another server?


Jo
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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I downloaded josm-latest.jar, started it, F12, download list, update
 plugins, but nothing related to SPOT is available among my plugins. Do I
 need to add another server?


 Jo


Some people resolved this issue by deleting the wmsplugin itself and
sub-directory  in JOSM working directory before its update (this probably to
pick-up the correct version of the pre-configured wms servers file in the
jar file).

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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:05 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was
 given permission to trace from Spot imagery.  Is this for France only
 coverage?

This appears to be their English version of the license.
http://www.youmapps.org/licenses/EULA-OSM-en.html

I note a few small typos including
OpensStreetMap for OpenStreetMap

and a bad link to OSbL, which should be
http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/

This seems a wonderfully generous offer and interesting collaborative
experiment.  Thank you, Jeff and Spot Image.

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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread maning sambale
Aww. No SPOTMaps for my mapping patch (Philippines).  Just to add to
Ævar's request, the mappers in the Philippines  would really
appreciate SPOT tracing.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
ava...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 14:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi
 jeanfrancois.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a
 test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual
 benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to foster an extended
 collaboration.

 Here is the SPOtMaps page in English :
 http://www.spotimage.com/web/en/1285-spotmaps.php

 And I just want to correct the spelling for the source tag : source=Cnes /
 Spot Image

 Hi Jeff. I was wondering what the SPOT-5 coverage was over
 Iceland. It's not listed on that page, in the KML file or in the
 country list. But according to this:

    http://www.lmi.is/pages/fjarkonnun/spot-5-myndir-keyptar-2008-og-2009/

 And:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=iceland+site:spotimage.com

 There's at least some coverage. But I assume it's really sparse or in
 low resolution and is thus is not listed on the main listing?

 Anyway, if you're looking for a country that you probably have minimal
 commercial gain anyway and that doesn't have any imagery already
 (except for Landsat) the mappers in Iceland would love to get access
 to SPOT-5 for tracing.

 Thanks for your time.

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