Re: [OSM-talk] [Maps-l] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List
Peter Körner wrote: (Montenegro is still missing) It seems there is no node for it. Searching if with the Namefinder doesn't bring up a node. I'd need a node id to add it to the list. I think it's 445970763 -- Marcin Cieslak // sa...@saper.info signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Maps-l] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List
Maarten Dammers schrieb: Hi Peter, Peter Körner schreef: Hello OSM folks For the integration of osm into the wikipedia there will be localized maps in all languages that have their own wikipedia. The problem is, that a lot of countries are not translated yet. I see you created your own tool. Probably works just fine, but you might be interested in http://translatewiki.net : Translatewiki.net is a localisation platform for translation communities, language communities, and open source projects. It started out with localisation for MediaWiki. Later support for MediaWiki extensions, FreeCol and other open source projects was added. Maarten Hum, but how would you exchange data between the osm-db and translatewiki? Can this be done with a bot (in both directions?) I never wrote a bot for a wiki, so I don't know what may be done with it.. Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Maps-l] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schrieb: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Hello OSM folks For the integration of osm into the wikipedia there will be localized maps in all languages that have their own wikipedia. The problem is, that a lot of countries are not translated yet. To get an overview over the status and make translating those countries more easy, I created a tool that can be found at http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/multilingual-country-list/ I'd like to encourage everyone to spend some time making translated maps better. Comments welcome! That's very useful, and it's nice to see the toolserver being put to good use. One thing that would be very useful is if you would offer a .osm file for download which would include all the place=country nodes so that one could mass-translate them in e.g. JOSM. You can do this making an OSM file whose contents are a concatenation of the various http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/ID where ID is the node ID. I also thought about implementing inline-editing by just clicking the wrongly translated name and do the commit to the api right from the Toolserver. This way also the MySQL-DB behind the lists would be up2date instantly. Don't you fear corrupt mass-imports as we got just some weeks ago? (see http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/duplicate-countries/) Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Maps-l] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schrieb: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Hello OSM folks For the integration of osm into the wikipedia there will be localized maps in all languages that have their own wikipedia. The problem is, that a lot of countries are not translated yet. To get an overview over the status and make translating those countries more easy, I created a tool that can be found at http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/multilingual-country-list/ I'd like to encourage everyone to spend some time making translated maps better. Comments welcome! That's very useful, and it's nice to see the toolserver being put to good use. One thing that would be very useful is if you would offer a .osm file for download which would include all the place=country nodes so that one could mass-translate them in e.g. JOSM. You can do this making an OSM file whose contents are a concatenation of the various http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/ID where ID is the node ID. I also thought about implementing inline-editing by just clicking the wrongly translated name and do the commit to the api right from the Toolserver. This way also the MySQL-DB behind the lists would be up2date instantly. I think tools such as this one would be most useful if they do directly commit to the API and offer an editing interface. As has been pointed out (in the i18n-rich areas on the map thread on osm-talk) the current editors for OSM data offer a very lousy interface if all you're interested in is contributing translations, since they aren't optimized for that at all. So direct uploading would be nice, whether that happens with a single dedicated bot user or through proxying of OSM user accounts (e.g. via the still-to-be-merged oauth stuff) would certainly be nice. Don't you fear corrupt mass-imports as we got just some weeks ago? (see http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/duplicate-countries/) IIRC The corrupted mass-import happened because someone ran the bulk_upload.py script on an OSM file without understanding how the bulk-upload tool worked. Granted if you offered an OSM file with all the place=country nodes you'd be morke likely to get that sort of (and other kinds) of sillyness as a result. I'd much rather see a click-through launchpad-like interface to translate arbitrary objects :) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Maps-l] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schrieb: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schrieb: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Hello OSM folks For the integration of osm into the wikipedia there will be localized maps in all languages that have their own wikipedia. The problem is, that a lot of countries are not translated yet. To get an overview over the status and make translating those countries more easy, I created a tool that can be found at http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/multilingual-country-list/ I'd like to encourage everyone to spend some time making translated maps better. Comments welcome! That's very useful, and it's nice to see the toolserver being put to good use. One thing that would be very useful is if you would offer a .osm file for download which would include all the place=country nodes so that one could mass-translate them in e.g. JOSM. You can do this making an OSM file whose contents are a concatenation of the various http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/ID where ID is the node ID. I also thought about implementing inline-editing by just clicking the wrongly translated name and do the commit to the api right from the Toolserver. This way also the MySQL-DB behind the lists would be up2date instantly. I think tools such as this one would be most useful if they do directly commit to the API and offer an editing interface. As has been pointed out (in the i18n-rich areas on the map thread on osm-talk) the current editors for OSM data offer a very lousy interface if all you're interested in is contributing translations, since they aren't optimized for that at all. So direct uploading would be nice, whether that happens with a single dedicated bot user or through proxying of OSM user accounts (e.g. via the still-to-be-merged oauth stuff) would certainly be nice. Don't you fear corrupt mass-imports as we got just some weeks ago? (see http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/duplicate-countries/) IIRC The corrupted mass-import happened because someone ran the bulk_upload.py script on an OSM file without understanding how the bulk-upload tool worked. Granted if you offered an OSM file with all the place=country nodes you'd be morke likely to get that sort of (and other kinds) of sillyness as a result. I'd much rather see a click-through launchpad-like interface to translate arbitrary objects :) Yes and that matches to me, too. I don't know nothing about bulk_upload.py but I think I know enough about the api to do a direct commit. I'll try to implement it this week. I'ts so cool to see the progress-bars filling :) Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
