Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes
On 25/07/09 02:49, Mikel Maron wrote: Thanks Mala, as I was the cause of at least one set of those bad imports! This was an import of Arabic placenames globally, in a changeset pushed through the bulk_upload.py. bulk_upload.py seems to support modify and delete, but in my experience (obviously!) not. Can anyone confirm that bulk_upload.py does work .. and then perhaps I can determine what I've been doing wrong. I thought we had established some time ago that it does support them if you give it the right input format. You gave it the wrong format and as a result (and because it doesn't validate the input properly) it treated everything as a create. Basically it supports osmChange and you gave it osm or vice versa - the details escape me right now. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes
From what I understand when I patched the source to allow the Corine Land Cover huge import sometimes ago, bulk_upload does what it's told. That is if you feed it a standard OSM file, it add the features. If you want to add/change/delete, you have to use the changeset syntax which enclose data in blocks that explicitely tell if you want to add/ update/delete the features in that block. Yann Le 25 juil. 09 à 11:15, Tom Hughes a écrit : On 25/07/09 02:49, Mikel Maron wrote: Thanks Mala, as I was the cause of at least one set of those bad imports! This was an import of Arabic placenames globally, in a changeset pushed through the bulk_upload.py. bulk_upload.py seems to support modify and delete, but in my experience (obviously!) not. Can anyone confirm that bulk_upload.py does work .. and then perhaps I can determine what I've been doing wrong. I thought we had established some time ago that it does support them if you give it the right input format. You gave it the wrong format and as a result (and because it doesn't validate the input properly) it treated everything as a create. Basically it supports osmChange and you gave it osm or vice versa - the details escape me right now. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes
2009/7/25 Yann Coupin y...@coupin.net: From what I understand when I patched the source to allow the Corine Land Cover huge import sometimes ago, bulk_upload does what it's told. That is if you feed it a standard OSM file, it add the features. If If you feed it a standard OSM file it will do the same thing as JOSM does, i.e. add/modify/remove features as indicated by the action= property. you want to add/change/delete, you have to use the changeset syntax which enclose data in blocks that explicitely tell if you want to add/ update/delete the features in that block. Possibly the patched version but the one that was and still is in SVN will completely screw up when given a changeset. I recommend (shameless plug) http://www.openstreetmap.pl/balrog/bulkupload/ for changeset uploads. I also recommend reverting this kinds of failed uploads as soon as you notice it, so as not to add manual work for people (I noticed on a lot of the duplicate country nodes people have been making changes to the tags not noticing they were only editing one of the six identical copies and then wondering why their changes had no effect and risking doing work somebody else already did on a different copy). The changesets such as those adding name:ar= for country nodes are really trivial to revert if noticed in time, not requiring the fancy scripts. Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes
Yes, i also encountered them. There seem to be many broken imports of various country names, creating new nodes instead of updating existing ones: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558061 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558170 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558184 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1725949 (notice v1 at all nodes in all of the above changesets!) Some of them seem ok though: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558224 Stefan On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmasonava...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this has been noted previously but there seem to be a lot of recent duplicate place= nodes in the database from different users: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/27564988 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/435916947 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/428339584 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/265958490 Then there were a lot of duplicate place=country nodes by user balrog-kun, but these seem to be mostly cleaned up now: 249399354 | Ísland | country 424314784 | Ísland | country 424312027 | Ísland | country 424298323 | Ísland | country 424317955 | Ísland | country 432425001 | Ísland | country ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes
2009/7/24 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: I don't know if this has been noted previously but there seem to be a lot of recent duplicate place= nodes in the database from different users: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/27564988 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/435916947 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/428339584 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/265958490 Then there were a lot of duplicate place=country nodes by user balrog-kun, but these seem to be mostly cleaned up now: I was updating wikipedia= and other tags and found each country=place node had 6 copies, usually five of them by user Baruch, differing only in name:ar= and name:he. I merged them into 1 usually so you'll see 5 of them deleted, all with last editing user set to me (balrog-kun). Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes
2009/7/24 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: I was updating wikipedia= and other tags and found each country=place node had 6 copies, usually five of them by user Baruch, differing only in name:ar= and name:he=. I merged them into 1 usually so you'll see 5 of them deleted, all with last editing user set to me (balrog-kun). While doing this I found that at least one country was completely missing (Montenegro) and couldn't find any sane way to check what happened to the node or whether there had never been any (unlikely). Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes
It looks like many of these dupes are being cleaned up by user Mala http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mala/edits Thanks Mala, as I was the cause of at least one set of those bad imports! This was an import of Arabic placenames globally, in a changeset pushed through the bulk_upload.py. bulk_upload.py seems to support modify and delete, but in my experience (obviously!) not. Can anyone confirm that bulk_upload.py does work .. and then perhaps I can determine what I've been doing wrong. I'm not the only one, as you'll see that other dup country changesets have used bulk_upload.py as well. -Mikel From: Stefan Baebler stefan.baeb...@gmail.com To: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com Cc: openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:04:25 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate place=city capital=yes and other place nodes Yes, i also encountered them. There seem to be many broken imports of various country names, creating new nodes instead of updating existing ones: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558061 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558170 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558184 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1725949 (notice v1 at all nodes in all of the above changesets!) Some of them seem ok though: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1558224 Stefan On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmasonava...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this has been noted previously but there seem to be a lot of recent duplicate place= nodes in the database from different users: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/27564988 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/435916947 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/428339584 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/265958490 Then there were a lot of duplicate place=country nodes by user balrog-kun, but these seem to be mostly cleaned up now: 249399354 | Ísland | country 424314784 | Ísland | country 424312027 | Ísland | country 424298323 | Ísland | country 424317955 | Ísland | country 432425001 | Ísland | country ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
