Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM!
Hello all, following my short summary of the FOSDEM 2012 at the first weekend in February at Brussels. As discussed in advance we had an OSM stand at the FOSDEM. See e.g. at http://www.openstreetmap.fr/f/IMG_3746_web.jpg * we had quite a lot of interest on the stand on completeley different areas: + complete newbies (What is OSM? Never heared about it.) + OSM users just saying thank you guys, it's wonderful what you as project are doing = I want to forward this to worldwide all mappers! + some mappers asking about how can I map this and that + quite some people asking about how can I use OSM on my device xyz (including Garmin devices) + developers who want to show a map on the web e.g. with a special overlay + people asking: can I do this and that with the data? I would be interested to to do xyz? + question: can I trust the data? How verified is it? + ... * once more a big Thanks to Geofabrik / Frederik for the printouts, they have been very helpful to point to the project! * flyers went away very quick: after 2..3 hours they were gone (also Thanks to Geofabrik / Frederik for providing them) = next year have more flyers * tablet devices are a good way when you want to show somebody e.g. a map within a discussion or in the crowd in front of the stand * For me it was very interesting to work in a multinational team (mappers being present from Belgium, France, Germany, Slovakia or Slovenia, ). * It is benificial to talk to people who have questions in their own language which we have been able with the international team. * maybe somebody from the OSM community should do a talk (or lighning talk) to get some SW developers and not mappers, the audience at FOSSDEM has a great potential to get other people interested than mappers [1]. * IMHO OSM should be present at FOSDEM 2013 again (another stand). * the WLAN provided for the conference was working very well at our stand * on (very) cold weather don't have your stand located too close to the entrance door... add [1]: don't get me wrong, I am not at all complaining about mappers! We need more of them worldwide. But the overall project has not only a need for people collecting geo facts, IMHO there is also an increasing need for people developing the tools to process and work with the data. Best regards, Michael. PS: genereal comment on the FOSDEM after my first visit: very interesting but very tight arranged event (10...20 talks in parallel) who is worth a travel. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 13-02-12 12:49, Michael Kugelmann schreef: IMHO OSM should be present at FOSDEM 2013 again (another stand). In another building :) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEAREKAAYFAk85UGEACgkQYH1+F2Rqwn0C8ACdGgkq+u+Y2DcyM15rruj9NRCP WLUAn3c7GtDWYhSPJo5MssJ2T0ntl8WX =2LHB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM!
2012/2/13 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de Hello all, following my short summary of the FOSDEM 2012 at the first weekend in February at Brussels. As discussed in advance we had an OSM stand at the FOSDEM. See e.g. at http://www.openstreetmap.fr/f/**IMG_3746_web.jpghttp://www.openstreetmap.fr/f/IMG_3746_web.jpg * we had quite a lot of interest on the stand on completeley different areas: + complete newbies (What is OSM? Never heared about it.) + OSM users just saying thank you guys, it's wonderful what you as project are doing = I want to forward this to worldwide all mappers! + some mappers asking about how can I map this and that + quite some people asking about how can I use OSM on my device xyz (including Garmin devices) + developers who want to show a map on the web e.g. with a special overlay + people asking: can I do this and that with the data? I would be interested to to do xyz? + question: can I trust the data? How verified is it? + ... * once more a big Thanks to Geofabrik / Frederik for the printouts, they have been very helpful to point to the project! I got the one of Brussels/Etterbeek and I'll use it on some mapping parties I'm planning to organise. Thanks Frederik! It makes the project more 'tangible'. * flyers went away very quick: after 2..3 hours they were gone (also Thanks to Geofabrik / Frederik for providing them) = next year have more flyers Yes, with 5000 attendants to the conference, we should have around 1000 of them. But who has money to create them? I took a sample, which I'm planning to translate into Dutch to hand out to random people I meet while mapping. * tablet devices are a good way when you want to show somebody e.g. a map within a discussion or in the crowd in front of the stand I'm glad I was able to bring mine and that I was able to help people install OsmAnd and Vespucci on their Android devices. I was a bit worried about it getting stolen, though. There is no way to secure it with a Kensington lock cable. Most people at FOSDEM are decent, but it takes only one... * For me it was very interesting to work in a multinational team (mappers being present from Belgium, France, Germany, Slovakia or Slovenia, ). Yes, that was a great experience for me as well. Especially since I went to present OSM in Normandy the weekend before. * It is benificial to talk to people who have questions in their own language which we have been able with the international team. * maybe somebody from the OSM community should do a talk (or lighning talk) to get some SW developers and not mappers, the audience at FOSDEM has a great potential to get other people interested than mappers [1]. Somebody should indeed get in front of a room of developers and explain where we stand and what more is needed. I've been doing a presentation in Holland about the advanced possibilities of JOSM (in Dutch) and another one in France as a general presentation of the project (in French) and I might step up to do one in English, if noboby else does. But I'm a bit reluctant to actually do it. I'm not really used to talk in front of a public. * IMHO OSM should be present at FOSDEM 2013 again (another stand). Absolutely. I'd prefer to be in the K building though (now we were in AW) and with 2 or maybe even 3 tables. We should also have some 'swag'. I liked the warm headwear the OpenSuse project brought. Maybe selling stuff like that a little bit above cost, could pay for the flyers. A cap, or a sticker, or a high-viz vest. Or T-shirts, of course. Preferably something that's useful during cycling or hiking to give the project the name recognition it needs. * the WLAN provided for the conference was working very well at our stand It's the WLAN of the ULB. I'm sure it works fine throughout all the buildings, although the FOSDEM crowd probably stresses it quite a bit :-) * on (very) cold weather don't have your stand located too close to the entrance door... Ask to be in the K bulding. add [1]: don't get me wrong, I am not at all complaining about mappers! We need more of them worldwide. But the overall project has not only a need for people collecting geo facts, IMHO there is also an increasing need for people developing the tools to process and work with the data. Best regards, Michael. PS: genereal comment on the FOSDEM after my first visit: very interesting but very tight arranged event (10...20 talks in parallel) who is worth a travel. Fortunately quite a few of them are recorded so we can still 'attend' them on line. Cheers, Polyglot ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM!
Hi, On 02/13/2012 07:08 PM, Jo wrote: I got the one of Brussels/Etterbeek and I'll use it on some mapping parties I'm planning to organise. Thanks Frederik! It makes the project more 'tangible'. I'm happy to print posters like this for events elsewhere; ideally I'd ship them to a German address to save postage but I can also ship to other European destinations. * flyers went away very quick: after 2..3 hours they were gone (also Thanks to Geofabrik / Frederik for providing them) = next year have more flyers Yes, with 5000 attendants to the conference, we should have around 1000 of them. But who has money to create them? I took a sample, which I'm planning to translate into Dutch to hand out to random people I meet while mapping. Printing flyers is actually relatively cheap; 10.000 flyers cost about €200. Geofabrik sponsors the German ones, and the English ones are currently paid for by the publisher of our English OSM book. What's more expensive than printing them is usually the shipping. - SVG sources of German and English flyers are in SVN, under /misc/pr_material. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
Michael Kugelmann schrieb: BTW: ist there somebody from the OSM community at the friday beer event? http://www.fosdem.org/2012/beerevent I'll be there, but probably more with the Mozilla folks in the end. Robert Kaiser ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
update of the current state: I'll check for a large printout of Brussels and mybe a world map, I'll feed back on this (we had these at the 28C3). I have both at home since some days, thanks to Frederik! Does anybody have English flyers or something like that to hand over to interested persons? I received also very few English flyers from Frederik (I think thas have been the only ones he had). And I will bring my very few vew last German Flyers too. BTW: ist there somebody from the OSM community at the friday beer event? http://www.fosdem.org/2012/beerevent Meet you at Brussels, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
On 06.01.2012 17:30, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 01/06/2012 04:52 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: Does anybody have English flyers or something like that to hand over to interested persons? Sorry, no international flyers from my side. I'll check at least for some German flyers. But if you (or the organizers of the table. Gael?) need a banner for the table decoration I could bring the big one we had at Sotm-EU last summer (picture [0]). Norbert [0] http://www.flickr.com/photos/sotmeu/5960372816 I'm not aware about the amount of space we have, so this might be too large. Anyhow if it is no gig effort to take it with you we can decide at the FOSDEM location. Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
Hi, On 01/06/12 04:52, Michael Kugelmann wrote: Does anybody have English flyers or something like that to hand over to interested persons? I have a bunch here, from Andy's stock. Someone could pick them up in Karlsruhe or I could ship them, preferably to a .de address. Printouts are also possible. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
Am 10.01.2012 11:06, schrieb Frederik Ramm: I have a bunch here, from Andy's stock. Someone could pick them up in Karlsruhe or I could ship them, preferably to a .de address. Printouts are also possible. see PM. Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
On 01/06/2012 04:52 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: Does anybody have English flyers or something like that to hand over to interested persons? Sorry, no international flyers from my side. But if you (or the organizers of the table. Gael?) need a banner for the table decoration I could bring the big one we had at Sotm-EU last summer (picture [0]). Norbert [0] http://www.flickr.com/photos/sotmeu/5960372816 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
EN--- As promised yesterday, below, the answer of FOSDEM's team for an OSM's stand @FOSDEM 2012 4-5 February 2012 | http://fosdem.org/2012/ Hope to see you all ;) Gaël FR--- Comme promis hier nous avons un accord positif pour un stand OSM au FOSDEM 2012 à Bruxelles du 4-5 Février 2012 | http://fosdem.org/2012/ En espérant vous voir nombreu[x|ses] Réponse-Answer We have the pleasure to inform you that your request for a stand at FOSDEM 2012 has been accepted. * amount of tables: 1 * in building.: K (first level) * build-up: from 09:00 on, on Saturday * teardown: closing is at 18:00 on Sunday We can provide you with secure space where you may deposit hardware during the night from Saturday to Sunday. It is closed and security staff is on the campus all the time, but we do not provide insurance nor take responsibility in case of damage or theft. Please try to have everything torn down by 18:00 on Sunday, as we have to clean everything up on Sunday night. We put a certain amount of tables at your disposal (see above), each having a size of about 2m by 1m: https://fosdem.org/2012/files/stands-table.jpg Note that we do not provide any clothing but you are more than welcome to provide any on your own, especially if you have something like a banner for your project. We will provide you with power sockets (*) but if you have a couple of extension cables, we recommend you do bring them along if possible. (*) note that Belgium uses type E sockets: http://users.telenet.be/worldstandards/electricity.htm#plugs_e If you need any adapters, make sure to bring them along as we cannot provide you with any ourselves. High-speed Internet uplink will be provided by means of WiFi everywhere. If you have a device that requires a wired ethernet connection, please do take a bridge device with you. Thank you for your participation and see you in Brussels soon cheers, The FOSDEM Team ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
Hi, I have not heard of something like last year (at least a stand). If something is organized i may help but i'm only available the sunday. Regards, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 13:59, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, ist there any OSM activity at the FOSDEM (4.+5.2.2012) this year? Happy new year, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
I missed FOSDEM last year, what was done then? I can also help out this year. Gael Musquet asked for a stand, but I don't know what the decision of the FOSDEM team has been wrt it. I'm on their mailing list and I just perused their web site, but can't find anything. Polyglot 2012/1/4 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com Hi, I have not heard of something like last year (at least a stand). If something is organized i may help but i'm only available the sunday. Regards, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 13:59, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, ist there any OSM activity at the FOSDEM (4.+5.2.2012) this year? Happy new year, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
I should be able to help too... On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: I missed FOSDEM last year, what was done then? I can also help out this year. Gael Musquet asked for a stand, but I don't know what the decision of the FOSDEM team has been wrt it. I'm on their mailing list and I just perused their web site, but can't find anything. Polyglot 2012/1/4 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com Hi, I have not heard of something like last year (at least a stand). If something is organized i may help but i'm only available the sunday. Regards, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 13:59, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, ist there any OSM activity at the FOSDEM (4.+5.2.2012) this year? Happy new year, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
Last year Gael got a stand for us, we where 2-3 holding the crowd with 1 computer, a couple of data logger, a car gps and a tablet... Gael had an awesome 1m² print of Bruxelles...i hope he can print the update :) Regards eMerzh On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 15:52, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: I missed FOSDEM last year, what was done then? I can also help out this year. Gael Musquet asked for a stand, but I don't know what the decision of the FOSDEM team has been wrt it. I'm on their mailing list and I just perused their web site, but can't find anything. Polyglot 2012/1/4 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com Hi, I have not heard of something like last year (at least a stand). If something is organized i may help but i'm only available the sunday. Regards, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 13:59, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, ist there any OSM activity at the FOSDEM (4.+5.2.2012) this year? Happy new year, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?
Hi all, The stand's request for OSM@FOSDEM is still under review. Hope it wil be OK for this year. Come back with good news ;) Gaël ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
