Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:12:53AM +, Christoph Böhme wrote: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org schrieb: An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an openstreetbug-plugin for josm. It works by parsing the javascript responses from the openstreetbugs-website. So, there is already some kind of API which makes it possible to use openstreetbugs in other application. I would be happy to contribute to a redevelopment of openstreetbugs. A while ago I started to use it extensively mostly for notes to myself and to-do items. By using osb in these new ways, I began to miss a number of features like assigning a bug to someone, keeping old bugs for reference (especially if they turned out to be wrong), and having different types or importances of bugs. I would also love to see an Report Bug tab next to the edit tab on openstreetmap.org. I second this - OpenStreetBugs has become a very important reporting tool that Aunt Tilly who has very good local knowledge can report bugs/inconsistencys/missing features to the mappers. I think its worth beeing included on the main page - Probably it would be a good idea to make it more open, put the code into svn, make the database schemas visible so that we do not depend on a single person. Has there been any development on this or is OSB still just as closed? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Hi, I think its worth beeing included on the main page - Probably it would be a good idea to make it more open, put the code into svn, make the database schemas visible so that we do not depend on a single person. Has there been any development on this or is OSB still just as closed? AFAIK it is still as closed as before, but my mobile map at http://www.petschge.de/projekte/mobilemap/ interfaces with it. I just looked at the javascript code and some packet dump of traffic between browser and OSb server. Turned out that the format of the requests if pretty much straight forward. Patrick Petschge Kilian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Ian Dees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Yes, and it should have an API to enable editors to get to the data. Is the author of OSB on the list still? If he's interested I'd be happy to help add these features. On the other hand, I'd be happy to rewrite OSB to include these features... maybe he's only on the talk-fr list... I'll try to reach him today... but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A SVN should do the stuff here but I don't know anything about the licence of OSB which in and of itself is a pb cause we could spend effort on other task in place of rewriting the existant. -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an openstreetbug-plugin for josm. It works by parsing the javascript responses from the openstreetbugs-website. So, there is already some kind of API which makes it possible to use openstreetbugs in other application. I would be happy to contribute to a redevelopment of openstreetbugs. A while ago I started to use it extensively mostly for notes to myself and to-do items. By using osb in these new ways, I began to miss a number of features like assigning a bug to someone, keeping old bugs for reference (especially if they turned out to be wrong), and having different types or importances of bugs. I would also love to see an Report Bug tab next to the edit tab on openstreetmap.org. Cheers, Christoph ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, November 26, 2008 11:32, Hakan Tandogan wrote: On Wed, November 26, 2008 11:24, David Earl wrote: On 26/11/2008 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an RSS feed from OpenStreetBugs which is, in effect, a regular localised dump. It's what you need if you're mentoring a particular area. Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org Please disregard my question, I just found that you get the RSS link as soon as you are zoomed in to Level 11. I always had the impression that no one used OSB in the general area of Turkey because I never saw any bug icons there, but zooming in deeper clearly shows some of the icons. In that case, the problem remains that you can't get a feed of a large but sparsely populated area like the whole of turkey. Would manipulating the coordinates in the RSS url work or is there a check for too large areas in the server code? Regards, Hakan -- The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:12:53AM +, Christoph Böhme wrote: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an openstreetbug-plugin for josm. It works by parsing the javascript responses from the openstreetbugs-website. So, there is already some kind of API which makes it possible to use openstreetbugs in other application. I would be happy to contribute to a redevelopment of openstreetbugs. A while ago I started to use it extensively mostly for notes to myself and to-do items. By using osb in these new ways, I began to miss a number of features like assigning a bug to someone, keeping old bugs for reference (especially if they turned out to be wrong), and having different types or importances of bugs. I would also love to see an Report Bug tab next to the edit tab on openstreetmap.org. I second this - OpenStreetBugs has become a very important reporting tool that Aunt Tilly who has very good local knowledge can report bugs/inconsistencys/missing features to the mappers. I think its worth beeing included on the main page - Probably it would be a good idea to make it more open, put the code into svn, make the database schemas visible so that we do not depend on a single person. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, November 26, 2008 11:24, David Earl wrote: On 26/11/2008 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an RSS feed from OpenStreetBugs which is, in effect, a regular localised dump. It's what you need if you're mentoring a particular area. Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org Regards, Hakan -- The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:11:22AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) The API is defined and Xav answers questions on it very quick and even extends it on request - This is i guess how the JOSM OSB Plugin was created ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On 26/11/2008 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an RSS feed from OpenStreetBugs which is, in effect, a regular localised dump. It's what you need if you're mentoring a particular area. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org Further to this, when you are using the website, how do you know how old the comments are in case they are already fixed. There are two near here. One says there is another road here and I don't know whether it means a nearby farm track which isn't currently mapped or the road it is (now) on. The other says the coastline joining to the river isn't done correctly at a point where the coastline joins to another bit of coastline. I'm tempted to close them both, but don't know how old they are or how to contact the person who added them for more details. OK. I've answered my own question and clicked in the bottom left hand corner on As RSS feed and it has returned the three nearest items with date (July 2008). Now to check the history on the relevant ways to see if they are newer. Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: For that to be really useful it should be even more prominent. There could be a link on www.openstreetmap.org (not necessarily on the map) that says: Something wrong on the map? Report it here! that links to the same location, zoom and layer on OSB. Or even an OSB layer on the main map? Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: For that to be really useful it should be even more prominent. There could be a link on www.openstreetmap.org (not necessarily on the map) that says: Something wrong on the map? Report it here! that links to the same location, zoom and layer on OSB. Or even an OSB layer on the main map? Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Yes, and it should have an API to enable editors to get to the data. Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Yes, and it should have an API to enable editors to get to the data. Is the author of OSB on the list still? If he's interested I'd be happy to help add these features. On the other hand, I'd be happy to rewrite OSB to include these features... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
