Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-09 Thread Steve Chilton
One in 3, 5, 3 metre:
 
GPS
Some software magic
Mapnik maps
 
Cheers
STEVE

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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry 
Competition!!



El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, Mike Collinson escribió:
 Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State Of 
the
 Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

Maps maps
maps maps maps maps
maps!

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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-07 Thread Steve Chilton
My entry, using 5-7-5 metre and traditional kigo (seasonal reference):
 
Morning time, birds tweet
In Amsterdam I will too
Using @steev8
 
Cheers
STEVE

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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry 
Competition!!



El Viernes, 3 de Julio de 2009, Maarten Deen escribió:
 Lovely maps, wonderful maps
 Maps-and-maps-and-maps-and-maps
 Lovely maps, wonderful maps
 Ma-a-a-aps Ma-a-a-a-ps Ma-a-a-a-ps MA-A-A-A-APS!!!

Maps
Bacon and maps
Maps, maps, eggs, bacon and maps


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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-05 Thread SteveC

On 3 Jul 2009, at 18:14, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:

 El Viernes, 3 de Julio de 2009, SteveC escribió:
 As you can clearly see, Exhibit 1 Original Work

 Maps maps map map maps
 Maps maps map map maps
 map map map maps
 map map map maps
 Maps maps map map maps

 is a direct parent of Exhibit 2 Cheap Infringement

 Maps maps
 maps maps maps maps
 maps!

 You have merely taken the first 7 words of Original Work and subtly
 rearranged them in to you Cheap Infringement. I'm sure we can agree  
 on
 this point.

 You obviously cannot appreciate that the artistic effort of  
 deconstructing the
 paradigmatical essence of the rhyme and its ulterior arrangement  
 into a more
 subtle poetical vector challenges and reflects the contradicting  
 hegemony of
 the nature of digital map ownership for the casual reader.

 I also find insulting that you consider my work to be a cheap copy  
 of yours,
 and I therefore demand prompt payment of 1 (one) beer* in concept of  
 moral
 damages in order to settle the issue.

 * - Beer type, amount, place and time to be decided by author of  
 Original Work

Don't you mean 'author of Cheap Copy' ?

 :-)


Best

Steve


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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-03 Thread SteveC

On 1 Jul 2009, at 17:48, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:

 El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, Mike Collinson escribió:
 Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State  
 Of the
 Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

 Maps maps
 maps maps maps maps
 maps!

Ivan

This is a derivative work, clearly, of my efforts last year. I have  
openly licensed this on the OSM wiki as CC-BY-SA 2.0 however, you have  
not provided attribution. I would appreciate this.

:-P

Best

Steve


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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
SteveC wrote:

 On 1 Jul 2009, at 17:48, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:

 El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, Mike Collinson escribió:
 Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State
 Of the
 Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

 Maps maps
 maps maps maps maps
 maps!

 Ivan

 This is a derivative work, clearly, of my efforts last year. I have
 openly licensed this on the OSM wiki as CC-BY-SA 2.0 however, you have
 not provided attribution. I would appreciate this.

In reference to Ivan I would like to do a free interpretation that is not a
Haiku.

Lovely maps, wonderful maps
Maps-and-maps-and-maps-and-maps
Lovely maps, wonderful maps
Ma-a-a-aps Ma-a-a-a-ps Ma-a-a-a-ps MA-A-A-A-APS!!!

(You know who it's from)

To put it in Haiku:
Maps, lovely maps
Maps-and-maps-and-maps-and-maps
Maps, wonderful maps

Or better:
maps maps maps maps maps
maps maps maps maps maps maps maps
maps maps maps maps maps

Maarten



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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-03 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 3 de Julio de 2009, Maarten Deen escribió:
 Lovely maps, wonderful maps
 Maps-and-maps-and-maps-and-maps
 Lovely maps, wonderful maps
 Ma-a-a-aps Ma-a-a-a-ps Ma-a-a-a-ps MA-A-A-A-APS!!!

Maps
Bacon and maps
Maps, maps, eggs, bacon and maps


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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-03 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 3 de Julio de 2009, SteveC escribió:
 This is a derivative work, clearly, of my efforts last year. I have
 openly licensed this on the OSM wiki as CC-BY-SA 2.0 however, you have
 not provided attribution. I would appreciate this.

It is not a derivative work, as my haiku does not build upon your limerick. It 
is merely inspired by it and thus a new, original work.

I will, however, agree to loudly discuss the issue with the OSMF licensing 
working group next week in front of some beers.

;-)

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Me estoy acordando de mañana y me está dando una pereza...
 --Javier Durán


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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-03 Thread SteveC

On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:27, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:

 El Viernes, 3 de Julio de 2009, SteveC escribió:
 This is a derivative work, clearly, of my efforts last year. I have
 openly licensed this on the OSM wiki as CC-BY-SA 2.0 however, you  
 have
 not provided attribution. I would appreciate this.

 It is not a derivative work, as my haiku does not build upon your  
 limerick. It
 is merely inspired by it and thus a new, original work.

Ivan

As you can clearly see, Exhibit 1 Original Work

Maps maps map map maps
Maps maps map map maps
map map map maps
map map map maps
Maps maps map map maps
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2008/LimerickPoemCompetition

is a direct parent of Exhibit 2 Cheap Infringement

Maps maps
maps maps maps maps
maps!

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2009/Poetry_Competition#SOTM_2009_Amsterdam_haiku_Poem_Page


You have merely taken the first 7 words of Original Work and subtly  
rearranged them in to you Cheap Infringement. I'm sure we can agree on  
this point.

I'm sure you agree that for the coherence and betterment of the  
community that for you to merely acknowledge derivation would achieve  
a satisfactory result, as set out in the terms and conditions of the  
CC-BY-SA 2.0 license. You must now cease and desist your baseless  
claims on originality and agree to pay me 1 Beer[1] in exchange for a  
global non-exclusive copyright license to derive from the Original Work.

[1] - Beer type, amount, place and time to be decided by author of  
Original Work

 I will, however, agree to loudly discuss the issue with the OSMF  
 licensing
 working group next week in front of some beers.

Your offer has been taken in to account as above.

:-)

Best

Steve


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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-03 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 3 de Julio de 2009, SteveC escribió:
 As you can clearly see, Exhibit 1 Original Work

 Maps maps map map maps
 Maps maps map map maps
 map map map maps
 map map map maps
 Maps maps map map maps

 is a direct parent of Exhibit 2 Cheap Infringement

 Maps maps
 maps maps maps maps
 maps!

 You have merely taken the first 7 words of Original Work and subtly
 rearranged them in to you Cheap Infringement. I'm sure we can agree on
 this point.

You obviously cannot appreciate that the artistic effort of deconstructing the 
paradigmatical essence of the rhyme and its ulterior arrangement into a more 
subtle poetical vector challenges and reflects the contradicting hegemony of 
the nature of digital map ownership for the casual reader.

I also find insulting that you consider my work to be a cheap copy of yours, 
and I therefore demand prompt payment of 1 (one) beer* in concept of moral 
damages in order to settle the issue.

* - Beer type, amount, place and time to be decided by author of Original Work

:-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Steve,

Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
 I also find insulting that you consider my work to be a cheap copy of yours, 
 and I therefore demand prompt payment of 1 (one) beer* in concept of moral 
 damages in order to settle the issue.

Just a word of caution, I think those Spanish guys can get really upset 
if insulted:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D07EEDF1F3EE733A2575AC2A9619C946797D6CF

Granted, the article is a bit dated but I think they do cherish tradition!

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, Mike Collinson escribió:
 Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State Of the
 Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

Maps maps
maps maps maps maps
maps!

-- 
--
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Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta compleja.

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