Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com writes: At this past weekend's State Of The Map conference in Atlanta, the idea of integrating Walking Papers into the OSM site proper came up a few times. Do people this this is a good idea? An interesting idea? Sounds great. And now for something completely different ;) since there is a chance you read this. *I* miss a capability in walking papers to create a PDF single containging selected area split into several pages. -- Miłego dnia, Łukasz Stelmach ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
Michal, It sounds great. If there is an easy way to do this I would love to include the service in our local site (http://www.openstreetmap.cl/). Regards, Julio Costa On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Hi guys, At this past weekend's State Of The Map conference in Atlanta, the idea of integrating Walking Papers into the OSM site proper came up a few times. I'm interested in pursuing this, potentially creating a branch of the project specifically intended for inclusion on an external site. Do people this this is a good idea? An interesting idea? Who's the right group to talk to about this? -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
That'd be awesome. One possibility is to flesh out the REST API provided by Walking Papers, keeping it running on a separate host but making the functionality available on various OSM.org servers. -mike. On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Julio Costa Zambelli wrote: Michal, It sounds great. If there is an easy way to do this I would love to include the service in our local site (http://www.openstreetmap.cl/). Regards, Julio Costa On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Hi guys, At this past weekend's State Of The Map conference in Atlanta, the idea of integrating Walking Papers into the OSM site proper came up a few times. I'm interested in pursuing this, potentially creating a branch of the project specifically intended for inclusion on an external site. Do people this this is a good idea? An interesting idea? Who's the right group to talk to about this? -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: That'd be awesome. One possibility is to flesh out the REST API provided by Walking Papers, keeping it running on a separate host but making the functionality available on various OSM.org servers. Dear Mike, I'm intrigued by the idea, though I'm also wary of the resistance to change the OSM.org front page. You mentioned a REST API. What sort of options are possible for integrating Walking Papers with OSM sites? For example, is Walking Papers licensed under GPL or another license that would be suitable for running on the OSM servers? Are logins required? Best regards, Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
On Aug 17, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: That'd be awesome. One possibility is to flesh out the REST API provided by Walking Papers, keeping it running on a separate host but making the functionality available on various OSM.org servers. Dear Mike, I'm intrigued by the idea, though I'm also wary of the resistance to change the OSM.org front page. You mentioned a REST API. What sort of options are possible for integrating Walking Papers with OSM sites? For example, is Walking Papers licensed under GPL or another license that would be suitable for running on the OSM servers? Are logins required? Hi, I'm super flexible. Walking Papers is currently licensed under the GPL, so you won't have any license issues that I'm aware of. I used external libraries like Smarty (http://www.smarty.net), PEAR (http://pear.php.net), NumPy (http://numpy.scipy.org), PIL (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil), and VLFeat (http://www.vlfeat.org). The REST API is currently read-only: you can get information about prints and scans and so on for use in OSM editors, but I'm imagining adding ways of writing data to the site as well. I'm basically completely happy to do whatever work is necessary to make the project interoperable with other codebases. Here's an example request: http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=3s7nsckgtype=xml No logins are required on the site. The service has two general halves: one is the PHP/MySQL based front end which you see at http://walking-papers.org (and http://github.com/migurski/paperwalking/tree/master/site/), the other is a Python-based daemon that handles offline tasks to generate printed maps and process scans (code at http://github.com/migurski/paperwalking/tree/master/decoder/). I use Amazon S3 for storage of scans and other large files, but a migration to something hosted by OSMF-owned server would be fairly simple. -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: I'm super flexible. Walking Papers is currently licensed under the GPL, so you won't have any license issues that I'm aware of. I used external libraries like Smarty (http://www.smarty.net), PEAR (http://pear.php.net), NumPy (http://numpy.scipy.org), PIL (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil), and VLFeat (http://www.vlfeat.org). The REST API is currently read-only: you can get information about prints and scans and so on for use in OSM editors, but I'm imagining adding ways of writing data to the site as well. I'm basically completely happy to do whatever work is necessary to make the project interoperable with other codebases. From my previous work with WP, I'd say the upload API is a weak point. Being able to post directly to an endpoint, rather than being required to pull a form in order to get the secret, would be an instant bonus. Similar things would be of benefit to the decoder daemons too, which also have to get html pages and then parse them for the required tokens. When I wrote some invalid html in a footer it took me a long time to realise that was what was causing poll.py to crash! We've discussed briefly before, but I'd also like to see WP scan endpoints not relying on the print endpoints being active (since they make a call to the print ID url to find the scan locations). That means that people would then be able to set up custom WP print generators (say with their own data overlays, on an internal machine) and the resulting printouts would work on any WP scanning endpoint. Back to the OSM integration, the first step would be to integrate an option to print a WP print. The joy of git branches being we can code a button on the front page and leave the decision until later. From the WP end, the print generation API is quite dependant on the aspect ratio of the preview map. It would be great if WP could accept a lat+lon+zoom+paper combo and figure out the corners for itself. Finally, if there are unicorns on offer then mine would be in the shape of a KML overlay on the prints! Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
On Aug 17, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Andy Allan wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: I'm super flexible. Walking Papers is currently licensed under the GPL, so you won't have any license issues that I'm aware of. I used external libraries like Smarty (http://www.smarty.net), PEAR (http://pear.php.net), NumPy (http://numpy.scipy.org), PIL (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil), and VLFeat (http://www.vlfeat.org). The REST API is currently read-only: you can get information about prints and scans and so on for use in OSM editors, but I'm imagining adding ways of writing data to the site as well. I'm basically completely happy to do whatever work is necessary to make the project interoperable with other codebases. From my previous work with WP, I'd say the upload API is a weak point. Being able to post directly to an endpoint, rather than being required to pull a form in order to get the secret, would be an instant bonus. Similar things would be of benefit to the decoder daemons too, which also have to get html pages and then parse them for the required tokens. When I wrote some invalid html in a footer it took me a long time to realise that was what was causing poll.py to crash! Great suggestions, thanks. I had this whole idea that the XHTML content of the pages itself constitutes an API, but I'm starting to see that the confusion for developers here is a problem. I can improve the polling script to use a more forgiving parser like BeautifulSoup as a stopgap, for example. The nice thing about the form is that it allows WP to have two upload behaviors: Amazon S3 or local files. I'm not sure how to square the request signatures of S3 with the form upload business, but most consumers (e.g. people using web browsers) will already have a form-parsing client on their end. We've discussed briefly before, but I'd also like to see WP scan endpoints not relying on the print endpoints being active (since they make a call to the print ID url to find the scan locations). That means that people would then be able to set up custom WP print generators (say with their own data overlays, on an internal machine) and the resulting printouts would work on any WP scanning endpoint. I've got some work toward this goal on a branch, mostly consisting of adding a bbox to the URL in the QR code and increasing the print dimensions of the code to account for the consequently higher resolution. If the request doesn't return a status=200, a look at the bounds in the URL should be enough to do a complete scan. Back to the OSM integration, the first step would be to integrate an option to print a WP print. The joy of git branches being we can code a button on the front page and leave the decision until later. From the WP end, the print generation API is quite dependant on the aspect ratio of the preview map. It would be great if WP could accept a lat+lon+zoom+paper combo and figure out the corners for itself. Very true, I'll see what I can do here. Shouldn't be overcomplicated. Finally, if there are unicorns on offer then mine would be in the shape of a KML overlay on the prints! Can you explain more about this? -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Michal Migurski wrote: big snip I've got some work toward this goal on a branch, mostly consisting of adding a bbox to the URL in the QR code and increasing the print dimensions of the code to account for the consequently higher resolution. If the request doesn't return a status=200, a look at the bounds in the URL should be enough to do a complete scan. please take this to a developer list, where I don't have to read it (just a request on principle, that's all, I am quite capable of ignoring it) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
