Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread Marc Gemis
It's listed on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
Just click on the "archive" link there to access it (read-only of
course) as a non OSMF member.


m.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Sérgio V.  wrote:
> Of course I understand, and support, that sending emails to OSMF-talk  is
> only to OSMF members, a non-member should not have the right to send emails
> to that list.
> But readable it is; as usual in democratic institutions, where discussions
> can be listen.
> So the easier it could be to find OSMF-talk to be read, by any OSMer, the
> better, the more democratic it is.
> Of course, hope it keeps openly readable.
> The discussions there are relevant for the rest of the OSM world. Thanks.
>
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> Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/smaprs
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> 
> De: Tom Hughes 
> Enviado: terça-feira, 19 de dezembro de 2017 21:54
> Para: Sérgio V.; talk@openstreetmap.org
> Assunto: Re: no osmf-talk link at listinfo
>
> On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:
 but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>>>  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
>> the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki
>>
>> Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
>> But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
>> by the listinfo.
>> Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not
>> that wiki expert.
>> But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other
>> mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
>> Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
>> Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?
>
> As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread Sérgio V .
Of course I understand, and support, that sending emails to OSMF-talk  is only 
to OSMF members, a non-member should not have the right to send emails to that 
list.
But readable it is; as usual in democratic institutions, where discussions can 
be listen.
So the easier it could be to find OSMF-talk to be read, by any OSMer, the 
better, the more democratic it is.
Of course, hope it keeps openly readable.
The discussions there are relevant for the rest of the OSM world. Thanks.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/smaprs



De: Tom Hughes 
Enviado: terça-feira, 19 de dezembro de 2017 21:54
Para: Sérgio V.; talk@openstreetmap.org
Assunto: Re: no osmf-talk link at listinfo

On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:
>>> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>>  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
> the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki
>
> Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
> But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
> by the listinfo.
> Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not
> that wiki expert.
> But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other
> mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
> Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
> Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?

As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread Tom Hughes
I don't think the archives being semi-visible is deliberate, but it's 
not my decision.


I can't remember now if I created it but I suspect I did and I probably 
created it as hidden because the idea was that people would be added and 
removed automatically as they joined and left OSMF and having it listed 
would just cause confusion as people tried to join it.


The archives could be made private but it's a bit of a pain because then 
the list members have to login to access them.


Tom

On 20/12/17 00:20, joost schouppe wrote:

Tom,
It is meant to be readable for non-members, right? So what exactly has 
the fact you can't post as a non-OSMF member to do with being or not 
being listed on listinfo?



Op 20 dec. 2017 12:57 a.m. schreef "Tom Hughes" >:


On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:

but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.

   I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there
is a link to

the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki

Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
by the listinfo.
Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps
I'm not that wiki expert.
But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the
other mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps
considering join it.
Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?


As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread joost schouppe
Tom,
It is meant to be readable for non-members, right? So what exactly has the
fact you can't post as a non-OSMF member to do with being or not being
listed on listinfo?


Op 20 dec. 2017 12:57 a.m. schreef "Tom Hughes" :

On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:

> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>>>
>>   I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
>>
> the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki
>
> Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
> But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
> by the listinfo.
> Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not
> that wiki expert.
> But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other
> mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
> Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
> Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?
>

As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread Tom Hughes

On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:

but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to 

the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki

Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just 
by the listinfo.
Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not 
that wiki expert.
But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other 
mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.

Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?


As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-18 Thread Mike N

On 12/18/2017 2:49 PM, Sérgio V. wrote:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo?

I've read  in http://www.weeklyosm.eu  about
some interesting discussions there,

but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.


 I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to 
the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists



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Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-18 Thread Tom Hughes

On 18/12/17 19:49, Sérgio V. wrote:


please, one question:

Why is the link to

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/

not directly accessible by the

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo?

I've read inhttp://www.weeklyosm.eu  about 
some interesting discussions there,


but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.


It's a list for OSMF members that they are subscribed to when they join 
and it's open for public subscription.


Tom

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