Re: [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Diskussionsfäden 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit

>it was one person in CA adding 400 unverified tags to rail service in chicago.
> 
>one just 818 m, away from my home.
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>>Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:32 PM -05:00 from Martin Koppenhoefer < 
>>dieterdre...@gmail.com >:
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>>sent from a phone
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>>> On 22. Aug 2020, at 10:15, pangoSE < pang...@riseup.net > wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is yet another example of bad data in our database:
>>fix it ;-)
>>
>>Of course OpenStreetMap contains errors, just like any other source, and 
>>probably more, given that most contributors are laymen and have very few 
>>experience (few total edits, often just 1).
>>
>>On the other hand, we may be very fast when something changes, very flexible 
>>in emergencies (think Haiti), and have interesting niche data that commercial 
>>and public data providers don’t care for.
>>
>>It all depends on the local community in the end. If you have reached a 
>>critical mass to have locals everywhere, it will work great and bugs will 
>>wash out. Otherwise the data might get stale just like any other data. Also 
>>using the data is essential to find the problems, for example the 212 story 
>>garage is likely fixed now ;-)
>>
>>I tend to agree with Steve A.
>>
>>Cheers Martin
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[Talk-transit] Tag:railway=stop

2020-08-02 Diskussionsfäden 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit

Did someone on this List, contribute to this Wiki.?
 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstop
 
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Re: [Talk-transit] Bus routes in Málaga: Should we add "stop_area" relations?

2020-07-18 Diskussionsfäden 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit

the Tag:railway=stop, has some of the same issues.

  
>Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:27 PM -05:00 from Jarek Piórkowski 
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>On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 13:17, Daniel Capilla < dcapil...@gmail.com > wrote:
>> When we started mapping the bus routes in Málaga, Alan Grant and I came
>> to the conclusion that it was not necessary to add "stop_area" relations
>> due to the type of bus stops in Málaga, [2] where there are no actual
>> stop areas (only a stop position in the own road and a pole on the
>> sidewalk usually).
>>
>> Is that solution correct? Should we add "stop_area" relations at every
>> bus stop position? I would have to create a lot of additional relations,
>> only with the stop position and the platform features. I am not sure if
>> that would be reasonable/useful for any purpose. What do you think?
>>
>> [2]
>>  
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES_talk:Rutas_de_bus_en_M%C3%A1laga#Uso_de_la_relaci.C3.B3n_.22stop_area.22
>> (in Spanish)
>stop_area does not seem necessary for support in many popular OSM
>transit data consumers (OsmAnd and öpnvkarte/openbusmap come to mind).
>You probably don't have to add them unless something is really unclear
>without it. In particular it doesn't seem very necessary for simple
>cases like 2 stops on either side of the road. (It won't hurt, but
>it's not necessary.)
>
>Reading through (autotranslated) wiki discussion, it does make some
>sense that stop_area is more useful in areas where a number of
>physical halt points share one ref ID. If that's not the case for you,
>probably don't need to bother.
>
>--Jarek
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Re: [Talk-transit] bus stop name

2020-07-17 Diskussionsfäden 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit

i think it is the same tag format that only will show on the standard map the 
street name because no one puts the
 
the route no on the name line and that is the only thing the non editor see’s
 
not like the transit map where there is a route line.
 
the point is there is no pop up on the standard map so how do you know what the 
route no. it is ?
  
>Friday, July 17, 2020 5:02 AM -05:00 from Sander Deryckere 
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>Hi, 
>  > editor does not show the route number
> 
>Since you specifically mention the editor, perhaps it's worth to check out 
>JOSM as an editor. iD is just a generic editor and fine for most tasks, but 
>JOSM can be extended with plugins and styles that make it easy to work on 
>specific features (like bus routes).
> 
>Kind regards, 
>Sander   
>Op vr 17 jul. 2020 11:40 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-transit < 
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>> 
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>>Jul 17, 2020, 03:15 by  talk-transit@openstreetmap.org :
>>>    In the USA bus stops (flag stops) are located for the most part at named 
>>>intersections, that is at where the street
>>> 
>>>sign is.
>>> 
>>>   so you DO know where you are. but on the OSM standard map the bus stop 
>>>tag depending on the
>>> 
>>>editor does not show the route number, can you have the route number on the 
>>>tag ?
>>> 
>>>the wiki on this seems to be written for a European standard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>You can change layer of map (cake / paper sheets button on the right)
>>and select
>>https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/47.60203/-122.32333=T
>>or
>>https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/47.60203/-122.32333=O
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[Talk-transit] bus stop name

2020-07-16 Diskussionsfäden 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit

    In the USA bus stops (flag stops) are located for the most part at named 
intersections, that is at where the street 
 
sign is.
 
   so you DO know where you are. but on the OSM standard map the bus stop tag 
depending on the
 
editor does not show the route number, can you have the route number on the tag 
?
 
​​​the wiki on this seems to be written for a European standard.
 
 
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[Talk-transit] USA

2019-09-25 Diskussionsfäden 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit

that OSM, 
 
is a product of the united kingdom, 
 
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