Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Maps on Wikimedia
+1 bravo! -- Alex On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: From https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2015- March/081243.html : (You can login on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org with your Wikipedia account too, among others.) Hi, just a quick note: as part of general search and discovery work, me and Yuri are resurrecting the project to have OpenStreetMap in Wikimedia starting in April. Because the initial part of this work will include researching options which will influence precise goals and this is yet to be done, we still can't commit to a precise timeline, but as a ballpark estimate I personally want to aim for serving PNG tiles at a reasonable, though not necessarily dynamic maps on every WP page scale by the end of Q4. Vector/multilingual maps would be the next stage. We will be mostly using Phabricator for planning, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openstreetmap/ is my first pass on the outline of things to be done. Your comments and suggestions would be highly appreciated, please share your thoughts, ideas of projects that might use these maps, or just merciless critique! :D -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]]) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Edit with Filter On - Show new Tracing
Hello, I am new to filters. I want to trace while filters are on. What should I add to the filter so that my new traces will appear. What seems to be happening is I start to draw and the first node and the line are immediately filtered out. My filter is simple: add to selection (landuse:) Thank you! -- Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] web page element browsing history regression
+1 on some solution for the mobile refresh -- Alex On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: It's been some time now that the new web page is deployed, and despite the overall improvement, the regression for object browsing (tiny part of the screen is actually useful, map occupies most of the screen but is really not needed or could be much smaller at least, the current presentation style leads to scrolling requirement for any slightly more complex object) is still bothering the users. Also dates and times are not shown any more, instead there is approximated text like almost 6 years ago, 12 months ago etc. The fact that map data is loaded for every browse page also leads to significant traffic overhead, eg on mobile or other slow internet connections. I understand that this is an open source project with volunteer contributions, but that part actually WAS already functional for years. Would it be possible to get the old browsing and history pages back, at least until someone comes up with an improvement? Is there support for such a partial rollback? Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] We need a name!
History Viewer World History Inspector Grounded History Historic Site Inspector -- Alex On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a couple of responses off list. These are: * Constructing the past * something with crowd in it? Thanks, for these good ideas. Any more suggestions? Rob On 18 June 2014 21:04, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: A few OSM members interested in historic maps are working on our own version of the New York Public Library Building Inspector. If you've not yet tried it out, go take a look - it's a great site: http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ So, the core function they are asking contributors to do is to check (inspect) and fix the rough building outlines produced by the computer script. Our version will be the same but will cover any city and any library we can get good maps for. But we need a name. Current names suggested are: - Historic Map Marker - Old Map Marker - OHM Buildings - Historic Map Inspector - Building Surveyor - Historic Building Constructor - Historic Building Fixer - Ghost Mapper - Ghost Building Mapper - Ghost Brick - Ghost Bricks and Mortar - Houses and History - Historic Map Booth - Old Building Kiosk - Historic Building Outliner We're after your thoughts - which name works best? Is there some amazing name we haven't thought of yet? Best, Rob (RobJN) p.s. You're more than welcome to help in other ways. We're on the historic mailing list if you want to follow the progress. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy
Maybe someone could remind folks about the ...wasn't there a...did I hear about a test server? Something like a sandbox? A -- Alex On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 14.05.2014 11:09, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: The focus needs to be on the problem at hand, The problem at hand is currently at a scale that can still be handled on a case-by-case basis; the reason DWG is thinking about a general guideline is not that we're trigger happy bureaucrats but that we'd like everyone to know the rules of play rather than making them up as we go along, and that we assume that the number of such cases might be on the rise. which I gather is companies hiring people to map things using their own methodology incompatible with current OSM tagging guidelines. No, that is one potential issue but by far not the only aspect. Consider a real-life situation like this: * User complains fictional data is added all over my city! * Investigation finds 10 accounts having added fictional data; * further investigation finds that 10 other accounts have signed up at the same time from the same network, but have added things that do not immediately look bad (things that might or might not be factual) * reaching out to those who edited the most brings zero reply (possibly because their native language is not English nor anything spoken by anyone in DWG) Even reconstructing the whole situation takes quite a bit of time; and then we have to decide which bits to revert and which to keep. Is this a course that was misunderstood, or just organized doodling, or what? How can we reach the teacher (if any)? In this specific instance we decided to revert everything contributed by the whole group - surely not the optimum outcome for an OSM training course! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite
Still no money here in Indonesia, but we are getting very close...We ran a successful test in Dec/Jan/Feb and now we're moving all the training courses online. Teaching OSM and commons based peer production as a sosial project to help poor children and single parents without work. It is slow going, writing all the documents myself still, but there is progress each week. We had a cadre of 12 students during the pilot, went really well. Now have a grant out asking for help with our first training room, a few more computers. -- Alex On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:47 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: This is full coverage down to zoom level 19 imagery in the US + Western Europe and world wide to zoom level 17. May I ask why? Working on it :) As part of the same agreement w/ DG that allows us to open the Mapbox Satellite layer to OpenStreetMap tracing we are planning to update existing imagery with a huge 500,000km2 update. We just blogged this, the post comes with a tool to request particular areas to be updated. Let us know where we should be updating our Satellite layer next: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Low Cost Android with Accurate GPS (GLONASS) for OSM Survey
It's a funny mix and I've had trouble identifying a good choice for Indonesia. We have some issues with availability; not every product can be had here instantly, sure, but, if it can be found on AliBaba we can order it by Fedex. Yes, I have been watching all the device threads. This is a narrow request, accounting for GPS and Android with a budget, so, it's OK if I don't learn anything, but I was hoping I mind meet someone looking for the same thing :) Here is the basic criteria: Low price (Less than USD150, preferrably under USD100(high risk of damage and loss)) GLONASS or accurate GPS (not only A-GPS) Android 4.0/4.1+ support 5 inches or larger Can anybody recommend a device with these specifications? It is used for survey with Android data entry. When it comes to the GPS most devices that actually incorporate GLONASS do usually list that somewhere on the product, and so I have tended to shy away from devices that don't list that support, but I am probably missing something. I was hoping that this search would lead to a highly accurate definitive list of GPS chipsets and software with a corresponding list of devices within which they are deployed but no such luck. Any advice is appreciated. -- Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Low Cost Android with Accurate GPS (GLONASS) for OSM Survey
I was listening to ideas today about using OSM ids om walking papers, and then adding in a spreadsheet for the form. The only thing still missing is active GPS capture, which still requires a device. I am open to this, but I have found I have some issues getting all the IDs printed because they collide. This is a rendering issue. Maybe that is something I could request from the walking papers folks, a better collision detection process for rendering with a certain data layer (OSMIds for nodes). The best is building outlines with a node (centroid) for IDs with a filter for specific node types (Overpass). -- Alex On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.comwrote: Are there other alternatives like walking papers that can scale out cheaply to meet data capture needs but require some centralization for economies of scale? Ie meetups that produce basemap and provide scanning services plus pcs for tracing? On 15/12/2013 3:05 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: It's a funny mix and I've had trouble identifying a good choice for Indonesia. We have some issues with availability; not every product can be had here instantly, sure, but, if it can be found on AliBaba we can order it by Fedex. Yes, I have been watching all the device threads. This is a narrow request, accounting for GPS and Android with a budget, so, it's OK if I don't learn anything, but I was hoping I mind meet someone looking for the same thing :) Here is the basic criteria: Low price (Less than USD150, preferrably under USD100(high risk of damage and loss)) GLONASS or accurate GPS (not only A-GPS) Android 4.0/4.1+ support 5 inches or larger Can anybody recommend a device with these specifications? It is used for survey with Android data entry. When it comes to the GPS most devices that actually incorporate GLONASS do usually list that somewhere on the product, and so I have tended to shy away from devices that don't list that support, but I am probably missing something. I was hoping that this search would lead to a highly accurate definitive list of GPS chipsets and software with a corresponding list of devices within which they are deployed but no such luck. Any advice is appreciated. -- Alex ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-us] Reversion? Non-mailicious error?
Hello, I spent some time drawing details of an important set of buildings. 3 new mappers have collaborated to turn that effort into a ... circle. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-6.59797mlon=106.79738#map=19/-6.59796/106.79738 So, this is the first time this has happened to me. What can I do to go back to take that back to the way it was? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12239473 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16232173 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17314339 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18027508 Alex ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[OSM-talk] Port Examples, Please? (Piers, Sand Piers, Sand Breaks, Port Areas small and large)
Hello, I am mapping a small fishing area. The area has 2 beaches where they park boats, and then a small port with 2 piers. One of the beaches is protected by 2 sand piers. I ran into confusion when it came to the sand piers in the smaller beach port area, and then there's larger cement piers in the main port area. Can someone point me at some examples like this? I'd like to see how others have tagged these kinds of areas. Main port : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-6.98873/106.54131layers=N Smaller beach port: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-6.95334/106.44109layers=N -- Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Street/POI Index from OSM data
Hi Jukka! Thank you for the detailed instructions! it took me a whole year to get this installed. are you still doing mapping? i wrote a number of scripts to parse pbf files for our charity maps for indonesia. they are not very efficient. On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: Alex Rollin alex.rollin at gmail.com writes: Hello, I am rather new to OSM data. I've enjoyed doing edits on the map and now I'd like to start learning how to arrange it on a printed page. I know there are lots and lots of tools out there. Could I receive a few recommendations for getting some text data out? I was thinking I might need to use Osmosis. Some pointers would be very helpful. I would like to: Select a bounding box (I can produce lat/lon) Get a list of street names' Output a CSV file (or other text file) Select a bounding box (I can produce lat/lon) Get a list of POIs Output a CSV file (or other text file) For these I would also like to be able to get any other attributes/ keys like description text or other things. Thank you to each of you for all the work you do! Hi, Sorry for a bit delayed answer but GDAL/OGR OSM driver developer had to do a couple of fixes for making this task to perform well. So you can do all that with GDAL OSM driver and SQL query language. Output can be despite CSV any other format that is supported by GDAL/OGR for writing. http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_osm.html http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html Install a very fresh GDAL development version, about rev. 24970 or higher. For Windows you can get it from gisinternals http://www.gisinternals.com/sdk/ You want to query streetname from osm lines and name and probably some other attributes from osm points and from a limited area. It is possible but quite slow to create such CSV file directly from OSM data file that can be in osm-xml or pbf format with following command ogr2ogr -f CSV streets.csv finland.osm.pbf -sql select distinct name from lines where highway is not null order by name -spat 24.821 60.123 25.259 60.317 However, it is faster, especially if you want to do more queries, to convert OSM data first into Spatialite database. Here is a quite optimised command to use as a template ogr2ogr -f SQLite -dsco spatialite=yes finland.sqlite finland.osm.pbf --config SQLITE_SYNCHRONOUS OFF --config OSM_COMPRESS_NODES YES -progress This conversion takes a few minutes with 130 MB finland.osm.pbf file. Then you can repeat the first streetname search and it will be pretty fast ogr2ogr -f CSV streets.csv finland.sqlite -sql select distinct name from lines where highway is not null order by name -spat 24.821 60.123 25.259 60.317 The poi file can be created in a similar way. Let's say you want to get all the amenities and names for those. The command is ogr2ogr -f CSV poi.csv finland.sqlite -sql select name, amenity from points where amenity is not null order by amenity -spat 24.821 60.123 25.259 60.317 Note 1. Read the OSM driver manual page. The second command does not work before editing the defauld osmconf.ini file so that amenity is included in the points layer attributes. Note 2. There is a little bug in ogr2ogr CSV driver that may prevent creating a new csv file if there is already another CSV file with an uncommon structure in the same directory. The one-column CSV file that was created in the first example has such a structure. Delete the file or rename it with another extension before running the second example. Regards, -Jukka Rahkonen- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
I love iD, thank you for all the hard work. I say put it live now. I have 2mb internet. It's super fast by Indonesian standards. That's where I live. I worry about the speed. I wish offline tiles were easier. I wish a lot of things, but I am glad for iD. One note about the test site: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/master/#background=Bingmap=20.00/106.79182/-6.59605 In Chrome it took the site 10 minutes to clear my credentials with OSM before it brought back the request for access. That is not an internet issue as far as I can tell. I have a lot of internet issues, and I'm kind of an expert, and that was not one of them, so, might want to look into that. -- Alex On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes it almost looks like some people here are afraid of new users. +1 We also have to see deletions as positive contributions a priori when it is really fixing something (e.g. removing an obsolete POI). A better way of preventing mistakes is to prevent first edits being a lonely experience and to increase interaction with local communities instead of making editors more complicated. Mapcraft could inspire iD in this way : a 'chat' window is immediatly available. Having the possibility to talk immediatly with the community present on irc for instance or an iD chat room would also help a lot. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI Viewer in distance
Hi Frans, once all your data is in place you might try this to make the view more informative: https://github.com/danzel/Leaflet.markercluster Frans, do you have a proposed workflow for syncing the data back and forth to OSM? A -- Alex http://www.commoning.com VoIP - +1 415 287 9620 “It’s no longer possible for a country to collapse in isolation. Now we all collapse. The only path to stability is to equalize the consumption rates of the first and developing world. Our dream is no longer possible in the new world.” - Jared Diamond It is very necessary that people should really go in for activities which have the quality of development. Development does not just mean building houses, but developing everything which is in the inner self. They should become skilled or clever, and capable, and have a firm character, so that they can believe in themselves and not always have to be dependent on someone else for their living - Bapak Subuh Sustainable development is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs […] Humanity has the ability to make development sustainable. - Gro Brundtland On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: Could the grey screen be a rendering issue? You're rendering your own tiles rather than using the ones at osm.org - so areas in Indonesia are likely going to be pre-rendered and cached. You presumably haven't pre-rendered my home town (Oxford, UK), however, so there's no tile to show. I imagine that if I waited long enough the tile would render and I'd see the image. Yes, our rendering is not automatically, because we dont have enough space. the gray mean the tile is not exist yet, but if you refresh, there will be. Likewise for the POI data, are you only providing this for Indonesia? yah POI just for Indonesia Speaking of rendering your own tiles, I noticed that some areas are showing old data - Lembang, Bandung, for example - is this caused by not importing more recent data, or by keeping old tiles in the cache? we are upgrading the tile right now for newest map... i took 2 week for this. The site does look impressive, hopefully we'll be able to sort out the remaining little issues. we try to integarte the OSM map with our POI. but to save the POI from our system to OSM, that our outstanding right now. I think Alex ROlin also working smiliar idea. have smiliar question.. Best, Joseph On 15 November 2012 11:21, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: All, thx for the feedback.. the server located in IIX (Indonesia Internet Exchange) and fetch to our osmosa.net I think the gray because your browser is not allowed to use geolocation, which we use it. i think to make a switchable browsing between osmosa.net and openstreetmap.org.. let we work on it now.. bruno, the school map only for Indonesia map, because this server own by MoEC / Ministery of Education and Culture of Indonesia. you must move to Indonesia to get the map.. which there are around 90.000 schools there and we are working to make 200.000 schools shortly next week. this is my screenshot here. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151318224019085set=a.69155314084.95728.675689084type=1theater Ft ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Import OSM (XAPI/.osm) Into Drupal
Hi! I have a site configured and could really use some help with XPATH queries to select nodes for import into my site. I've worked for almost a year now and put over a million changes into OSM.org and it would be super-dee-duper if you could please help me to figure out how to access that data :) I've got a really simple POI file and a pretty simple interface for the Xpath configuration. Does anyone have a few minutes to help out, or some previous experience? From this file : ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'? osm node id='-832' action='modify' visible='true' lat='-6.587172610170637' lon='106.79715307393867' tag k='leisure' v='park' / tag k='name' v='Park' / /node node id='-830' action='modify' visible='true' lat='-6.656610878203467' lon='106.84743506028379' tag k='name' v='Pasar Ciawi' / tag k='shop' v='mall' / /node node id='-828' action='modify' visible='true' lat='-6.649718578831805' lon='106.84447562987759' tag k='amenity' v='bar' / tag k='name' v='Soponyono Cafe' / /node node id='-826' action='modify' visible='true' lat='-6.619922450944434' lon='106.81638669365105' tag k='name' v='Buah Segar' / tag k='petarakyat' v='include' / tag k='shop' v='supermarket' / /node /osm I am trying to place: (example below in format source-xml -new field) lat - lat v='name' - title I want to pull out more information but if you could help with just these I think I can figure out the rest, yes? I have spent the day on this and I can't seem to find any hints. I even did the W3C schools Xpath tutorial, but, I can seem to select the name, or anything, for that matter. Any help appreciated. You don't have to be familiar with Drupal to help. If anyone has other ideas for simply converting this to a CSV file that would be nice also, but, at some point, I know I will have to get a whole lot more technical. A little help now would be greatly appreciated, though! Alex Bogor, Indonesia ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Gilles Bassière gbassi...@gmail.comwrote: The case of flora might be easier because plants don't move but some of them are visible only a part of the year. It will be complicated to keep the map updated. In my opinion, mapping habitat will fit better in the OSM model because it is stable (more or less) and it is really visible in the landscape. I do understand the case and considerations for including stable data. I don't want to argue about that in this thread. Just hoping to meet more people doing this sort of thing and finding out how they doing it and collecting ideas about how to do it. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a relation type which has other objects (nodes, maybe also ways) included with the roles inside or outside (optional). This seems like a reasonable way to do things. Is anyone doing this? Some may have noticed this I asked how to do something like this in another thread, specifically with the purpose of being able to monitor the data over time. So, is anyone out there placing information into relations in OSM and monitoring that information over time? Does anyone have a process they follow for recording their observations? If we want to place it into OSM, into relations or otherwise, then we still need to monitor and make sure that the reference tag is in place. I hope folks interested in curating data are paying lots of attention to all this changeset discussion. Seems relevant. a ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators
Hi, I have been looking through the wiki for more information about appopriate data. I would like to meet more of the people storing information about presence of species, flora or fauna, inside the OSM db. I see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species and http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species Any feedback about this is very welcome. We are just researching this now. Alex Bogor, Indonesia ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators
Is it against policy to store all of it in the OSMF DB? a On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I'm interested in the topic, but haven't been contributing information yet. Some immediate issues that come to mind: Most areas would have more than one species of flora, but not clear how to use the species tag in that way. Fauna ranges are often not well defined in terms of existing landuse tags, so not sure if it is appropriate. Some cases could clearly be, such as a protected area set up for a particular endangered species. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:12 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators Hi, I have been looking through the wiki for more information about appopriate data. I would like to meet more of the people storing information about presence of species, flora or fauna, inside the OSM db. I see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species and http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species Any feedback about this is very welcome. We are just researching this now. Alex Bogor, Indonesia ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk The practicality of storing this information in the OSM database depends in part on how many species you are tracking. If only a few species are being tracked, there isn't a problem. If you try to record all of the species in an area, including the insects and microbes, then you are talking about tens of thousands of entries for even a small geographical area. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Tracking Something/Anything in OSM
How does one monitor something? If there is a list of schools that is maintained by a school district, is it possible that the school district can be notified if one of the nodes/ways/items is changed? Can someone take 2 minutes to write down what is involved in this? Terms like ask the api for information about the object is the level of understanding I have of this. Is it possible? Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tracking Something/Anything in OSM
I live in Indonesia. Someone emailed me because they watch the coastlines. I was amazed. I have asked myself for 6 months how he did that, does that, and if I can do that. I know it's possible to watch the area of a bounding box...I signed up for something to receive an RSS update of changes happening within that bounding box. I do hope this can become part of the ... expected use ...of changesets ..or the api. It seems to me this is the way that the project, the OSM project, can be...like Wikipedia...with a lot of editors watching the same area or nodes/ways. I don't mean to make any other comparison with that, I just mean that it enables a lot of focused collaboration. Alex On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.frwrote: Something like this is under development here: http://osm102.openstreetmap.fr/~zorglub/watch/ 2012/10/22 Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com: How does one monitor something? If there is a list of schools that is maintained by a school district, is it possible that the school district can be notified if one of the nodes/ways/items is changed? Can someone take 2 minutes to write down what is involved in this? Terms like ask the api for information about the object is the level of understanding I have of this. Is it possible? Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tracking Something/Anything in OSM
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice! I'd love to see this expanded to include filters for users as well (show me new users, users only on this list, etc). And then integrated into the main site, loosely coupled by JOSN or something. +1 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron -- *From:* Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr *To:* alex.rol...@gmail.com *Cc:* talk@openstreetmap.org *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2012 11:27 AM *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] Tracking Something/Anything in OSM Something like this is under development here: http://osm102.openstreetmap.fr/~zorglub/watch/ 2012/10/22 Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com: How does one monitor something? If there is a list of schools that is maintained by a school district, is it possible that the school district can be notified if one of the nodes/ways/items is changed? Can someone take 2 minutes to write down what is involved in this? Terms like ask the api for information about the object is the level of understanding I have of this. Is it possible? Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area
Sometimes both are done, too, adding the way and the node both. How to track them once added? On Oct 20, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning to link between node become area. so, we can have an area implementation rather just a node for POI like building, etc, we have square, and why we implemen in POI node Question: how to make a POI become an area in OSM? any idea for this idea? Most anything that I consider a point of interest can be modelled in OSM as either a point or a polygon. So you can find gas stations that are nodes and gas stations that are ways. You can find hospitals that are nodes and hospitals that are ways. etc. In general, you will use the same tags, amenity=fuel, name=PetroCan for example, but put the tags on the closed way, rather than on a node. Also, you would tag an object as either a node OR as a way, but not both. Which to do is largely a matter of mapper preference, and subject to local conditions. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area
So...an area where they occur then Pois for specific survey results? Different tags? I understand where Richard is coming from. I also know there's technical differences dealing with areas and showing them as Pois (as if they were nodes) depending on your map presentation. Alex On Oct 20, 2012, at 5:06 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi Alex and All :) but adding both make dirty our map, isnt it? my plan to draw a lake, and want to make it as POI's node search. in my research, esp lake tangayika in africa, every side of this lake, have a different species of tropheus, and i got a every side of the lake create a strain. take a look this picture/image http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/figures/1471-2148-7-137-1-l.jpg and i got new species distribution also here, in indonesia, psudomugill gestrudae, with blue and red colour. F On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes both are done, too, adding the way and the node both. How to track them once added? On Oct 20, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning to link between node become area. so, we can have an area implementation rather just a node for POI like building, etc, we have square, and why we implemen in POI node Question: how to make a POI become an area in OSM? any idea for this idea? Most anything that I consider a point of interest can be modelled in OSM as either a point or a polygon. So you can find gas stations that are nodes and gas stations that are ways. You can find hospitals that are nodes and hospitals that are ways. etc. In general, you will use the same tags, amenity=fuel, name=PetroCan for example, but put the tags on the closed way, rather than on a node. Also, you would tag an object as either a node OR as a way, but not both. Which to do is largely a matter of mapper preference, and subject to local conditions. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki Translation
Bahasa Indonesia and Malay variants are the 6th most spoken in the world. A On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, An effort has begun to translate parts of the OpenStreetMap wiki into Bahasa Indonesia. My question is how does a link to the translation end up in the Available Languages section at the top of each page of the wiki? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_Translation#Wiki_translations_HOWTO it states Note: due to technical reasons (limitations in the parser functions defined in the MediaWiki software showing this wiki), not all pages with existing translations will show by default in the list of available languages, but only languages for major languages of the world. Is this why Bahasa Indonesia doesn't show at the top when a page is translated? I think it is a pretty major language. Best, -Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
Maybe there is a way to make a custom link appear on the official relation history page on osm.org? On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:30 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Ilya, That is an amazing piece of work. This will be something I use very, very often. Thanks! On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru wrote: Hi! For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Essentially the only way of doing it is to filter changeset history by bbox (thanks to Pavel for his RSS filter btw). OWL has been turned off, ITO-like visualizations are pretty but unuseful. The simple question who has deleted my road? turned out to be very hard to answer. But there has been a simple solution, that I'm amazed no one has come to before. To cut long story short, I present to you the service to answer the frequently asked question: WHO DID IT? http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ It basically downloads hourly replication diffs and stores information on affected 0.01-degree tiles, along with extra information, like user name or a number of modified objects. Then it is possible to do some analysis of that data, to rid users of doing it themselves: which changesets should they pay most attention to, where was anything deleted, and which tiles have only got new data. Obviously this service relies only on nodes: other objects do not have spatial information on them in diffs; querying the server every time is expensive, and keeping minutely planet database is no less costly. I've preloaded WHODIDIT with the data since 1st of July, and it's only one gigabyte per three months of changes (half of which are indices). Yes, you can see what redaction bot has touched. Also it allows to make RSS feed similar to OWL's. I think everything is pretty straightforward, and there is an instruction picture: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/wdi_guide.gif The source is licensed WTFPL, and it should be very easy to set up, for example, a mirror or a regional version of this service. It's entirely in Perl/PHP/MySQL. Check it at https://github.com/Zverik/whodidit Oh, and if you see no tiles, try zooming in, levels 12-13 should have everything. I've not yet figured how to pass error messages to the front-end, so there is no helpful message. Thanks, IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Street/POI Index from OSM data
Hello, I am rather new to OSM data. I've enjoyed doing edits on the map and now I'd like to start learning how to arrange it on a printed page. I know there are lots and lots of tools out there. Could I receive a few recommendations for getting some text data out? I was thinking I might need to use Osmosis. Some pointers would be very helpful. I would like to: Select a bounding box (I can produce lat/lon) Get a list of street names' Output a CSV file (or other text file) Select a bounding box (I can produce lat/lon) Get a list of POIs Output a CSV file (or other text file) For these I would also like to be able to get any other attributes/keys like description text or other things. Thank you to each of you for all the work you do! Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..
Data CC-By-SA by © OpenStreetMap http://openstreetmap.org/. Looks great! Also, the OdBL chage is official. Can someone provide a new license text for OdBL? A On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we develop an apps , integrated with OSM, and we have 2 option, to use OSM.org and our own Osmosa.net take a look this URL http://demo.meruvian.org/module/eduunit the database is access to our server in osmosa.net, because both under our own IIX (www.iix.net.id) any idea for the right letter in the map box? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map with Bing background
http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.dewrote: Hi Alan. As far as I remember we are allowed to use Bing imagery for tracing inside the osm community, but we are not allowed to use the imagery publicly on the web unconnected to tracing issues. If I'm right, it is not allowed what you want - and I think, if it would be okay, some would have done so already. regards Peter Am 20.07.2012 04:05, schrieb Alan Mintz: Is there a browser-viewable OSM-with-Bing-imagery-mashup somewhere that can be used as citable source for Wikipedia? I'm suggesting OSM as a potential source for accurate coordinates in WP articles, but realize that positioning is not necessarily reliable unless specifically tagged or easily compared against license-compatible imagery. I'm assuming: a) Getting coords from OSM and using them in WP (with cite) is allowed (is there a standard cite format?) b) Looking at the Bing imagery to confirm OSM positioning is allowed, so looking at the two together is allowed to get coords even if the user doesn't choose to edit OSM to reflect them. Note: I checked http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/OSM_Online_Browsinghttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Online_Browsingbefore writing this - none of the ones with worldwide coverage have the Bing sat imagery. I realize that Potlatch and JOSM can do this - I'm looking for a browser-only, no-login/no-edit solution. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Can Mapzen POI collected get some love?
Thank you for considering that, Shaun! A On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote: Hi, Myself and Harry Wood have the code with a view of open sourcing Mapzen POI Collector and allowing the community to improve it. Unfortunately with my change of jobs and house move, I've not had any time to work on it. Hopefully that'll change shortly. Shaun On 11 Jul 2012, at 04:47, John Harvey j...@johnharveyphoto.com wrote: Hey! I keep hoping that Mapzen POI Collector will magically return to working, but every time I try I'm sadly disappointed. As far as I can tell, it is still the best OSM editor for the iPhone - if anyone can recommend a better replacement, I'd love to hear it. From what I understand, Mapzen POI Collector is basically no longer supported by the Cloudmade guys and a change to how it authorizes against the OSM servers has broken it: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/9412/mapzen-unable-to-log-in Any chance someone more technically savvy than me can give this problem some love? I'd really like to get back to adding content using my iPhone. Thanks! John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Icons
I joined the design list thinking it would be a place to talk about such things as this and, say, the rendering rules for the osm.org site. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/design dev also seems to ... touch this territory, and it is active. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:03 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I think that is what is required, a team to first list what the requirements for icons are then to come up with icons. I wonder if there are any ISO standard icons we could reuse? Cheerio John On 27 June 2012 20:46, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 18:06 -0400, john whelan wrote: Could someone or a group come up with a more standard set of icons please? lets appoint a committee ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMapWidget
Will you be storing all the information in the URL? Or will you be doing any backend work to collect data? A On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the create a placemark map works nicely :) Although I really expected to be able to just click directly on the map, not have to push the button first. I can't wait to see what you come up with for create an advanced map. I've been wanting something to replicate Google's my places for a long time. Here's a use case if you want one: - I want to be able to draw a single map overlay that shows all the cycle tours I've done around my home state. I like to be able to see at a glance which areas I've never been to - maybe I'll go there next. Different colors for different kinds of trips. I'd be really happy if a single route could combine road-following and straight line segments (eg, riding where there is not a road on OSM). Incidentally, do you think the question at the start (which kind of map?) is necessary? Isn't a placemark map just an advanced map that only has one placemark? It would also be useful to be able to caption this placemark map somehow. Steve On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Aleksandra Milanovic sandraa.milano...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Give me an opinion on my GSoC project: http://sandra-milanovic.github.com/OpenStreetMapWidget/ (it's a work in progress and not all of the functionalities are implemented yet) All the best, Sandra ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Custom Imagery
I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing. Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to? I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images. What would I do with them to load them into JOSM? It appears there is no open background image and add to map dialog. Do I need to create wms tiles? Alex ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout
There is a line of missing imagery that stretches from Bekasi to Gunung Pangranga thourgh Sukabumi to Pelabuhan Ratu that is not available. Does anyone have any ideas why this is? A ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Custom Imagery
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.comwrote: I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing. Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to? I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images. What would I do with them to load them into JOSM? It appears there is no open background image and add to map dialog. Danger, Will Robinson! Would their license be compatible with OSM, since you're going to be deriving data from their imagery? I promise i will be sensitive to licensing. Still new to all this, so, this is a practical technical question. Once I find more about buying stuff, hints at that process welcome too, then I will share what I learn about the licenses etc, too. A ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Alex, Could you send a link to the area in OpenStreetMap? You can do that by zooming to the area and clicking the View button again. Then copy and paste the resulting link. I suspect the answer is there isn't imagery available at certain zoom levels for that area. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.741lon=106.9485zoom=14layers=M ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Alex, Could you send a link to the area in OpenStreetMap? You can do that by zooming to the area and clicking the View button again. Then copy and paste the resulting link. I suspect the answer is there isn't imagery available at certain zoom levels for that area. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.741lon=106.9485zoom=14layers=M Pelabuhan Ratu isnt in that line, its another crossover, though, perhaps between batches of imagery? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.98435lon=106.55299zoom=15layers=M ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
